I wasn't aware that the NFL had one-on-one games.... I stupidly thought it was a team game.
Can we get Seattle's OC?
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I wasn't aware that the NFL had one-on-one games.... I stupidly thought it was a team game.
hoops
Tua time!
i know what he did...he wasn't a 2nd year qb either...i think he was a 4th year guy in the league but maybe 3rd
I think he was a 4th year guy so obviously he had the luxury of sitting behind a HOFer and learning the offense. I am not comparing Ryan to him but Miami has more than enough talent to win playoff games.
Yes, at skill posiitons we do, however the OL and OC are what is holding this offense back, hands down.
OL looked pretty good the other day against one of the best DLs in the game.
I like your posts, but our Oline has not looked great by any means. Against the Jets, Miami was frustrating and not very good, but it still looked like a win because The Jets were playing so poorly.
I think the Jets looked "the worst I've seen this year" in that game.
Especially since Mike Westhoff, arguably the best coach on the sideline, from his front row seat, was quoted in the NYT when asked about Sanchez's postseasons as declaring that he never drove that bus. What that means is he was a passenger, and if you're judging by the SD game, he was sitting somewhere around the rear passenger wheel.
Theyve looked good 2 games out of 12. If you think that means they arent part of the problem I dont know what to tell ya
yes we played poorly but I like to give our opponent some credit for that. when we are bad we are really bad.
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where did I say you had the 80s hogs out there? I don't think your Ol is as bad as you guys think but it is still not a strength.
You really have no basis to say our OL isnt as bad as we think they are as we certainly know better than you would. With that being said the OL has been one of the leagues worst for 90% of the year and one good game against your D does not negate that the OL is bad. Have they improved, yes, but not significantly. The two glaring weaknesses on this offense are and will continue to be until it is fixed is the OL and OC. This is indesputable. Ask any Dolphins fan and they will agree vehemently
Let's put this to rest once and for all. Here are two comments made by Mike Westhoff regarding Sanchez:
As for Sanchez, Westoff expressed doubts that he could be the kind of talent who shoulders the burden of an imperfectly designed offense. The first two years of Sanchez's career, when the Jets twice went to the AFC Championship Game, were the result of an all-around good team, Westhoff said.
"[Sanchez was the] manageable part of a good football team," Westhoff said. " ... Then all of a sudden, the burden was thrust on Mark and that's just too much for him, in my opinion. Also, I think the whole offense needs to be designed around Mark, and you can say that it was, but there are just some things he doesn't do as well."
Mike Westhoff, who served as special-teams coach when the Jets reached the A.F.C. championship game during their first two seasons with Mark Sanchez, said of Sanchez’s role: “He was on the bus. I don’t believe he was driving it.”
Links:
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/sto...-special-teams-coach-critical-team-management
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/02/s...start-for-a-jets-rookie.html?ref=sports&_r=1&
I'm sure you will disparage the source but the fact remains that his opinion is exactly what I (and numerous others) have been telling you for four years. Sanchez is a fundamentally flawed QB that needs to be protected in an offense and be in an ideal situation to succeed. That is why he is not the starter for the Jets. That is why he will likely never be a starter again.
I haven't watched as much as you guys but I have seen you play a lot, the OL is not very good but it's not awful either. They get too much blame for the sacks allowed, the sack this week was the QBs fault. I have seen others his fault as well.
EVERY fanbase hates their OC, I was at the Jets-Pats playoff game in 2010 and the fans were going nuts bashing the OC and they had a GREAT offense. It is what fans do.
don't be a vaark, you are better than that. Westhoff said essentially he didn't carry the Jets there like a Brady does in NE which is 100% true and I have never disputed.
Westhoff doesn't say anything negative. I think you guys misinterpret his comments. We won w/ defense first but that doesn't take away from the huge role Mark played. W/o him playing the way he did we don't win 4 playoff games.
It's amazing that fans would rather have fantasy #s than win games, people think if you throw for 300 you have had a great game.
I will give a blind example, please don't look it up. Which QB do you think had a better game?
QB A: 20-33, 61%, 233 yds, 2 TDs, 0 INTs, 102.2 rating
QB B: 10-19, 53%, 133 yds, 0 TDs, 2 INTs, 35.5 rating
junc trying to spin a matter of fact, straight forward declaration from someone who has seen it all and forgotten more about football then all the TGG posters combined. He said what he said... If you're not a driver on the journey, you are along for the ride; it's as simple as that. Yeah, Westhoff really didn't mean what he said, Carroll who jettisoned expensive Flynn cuz he knew what he was getting in Wilson only wanted Buttboy to stay an extra year when he declared he wasn't (and still isn't) ready for the pros, and LT, a future HOF was a disgruntled complainer when he declared that Sanchez was a weak link, too coddled and the frustration with him by Holmes was very real and intense.
Nah bro, they were god awful. Tannehill was holding onto the ball too long, yes, but even considering that the OL was horrible. Theyve gotten better, but any Dolphin fan will tell you the OL was worse than, "not very good". Too many times this season have we seen the ball get snapped and immediately the defender is in the backfield.
Every fanbase may hate their OC, but we have good reason to. Anyone in their right mind would say that, in any situation, a shotgun run on 3rd and 2 is not just a bad call but a horrible call. Even if it works its a bad call. A RB sweep on 4th and 1 using a slow Daniel thomas instead of a fast Lamar Miller is not only a bad call, its a horrible call and even if it works its still a horrible call.