Can we get Seattle's OC?

[FinfanInBuffalo]

My reading is fine when I read adult level stuff. when people change things up every time one of their weak points in torched then I can see why they would think I struggle reading.

we were discussing him being top 10 in 2010, your response was:



post #138.

stop deflecting and get back to your boxscores.


Mark was top 10 in 2010, mid of the pack in 2011 and bottom in 2012. as the talent regressed so did he, he's not Brady, he can't win w/ anyone. If he has decent talent he will win.

As has been shown, Dilfer is not unbiased.


Say it JUNC!!!!! Say it JUNC!! Say I was correct and you were wrong. Here I'll type it for you. You can quote it or cut and paste:

FinfanInBuffalo was correct all along about Sanchez and I (nyjunc) was horribly wrong. Sanchez is done, just like I was told.

 

[Vaark]

My reading is fine when I read adult level stuff. when people change things up every time one of their weak points in torched then I can see why they would think I struggle reading.

we were discussing him being top 10 in 2010, your response was:



post #138.

stop deflecting and get back to your boxscores.


Mark was top 10 in 2010, mid of the pack in 2011 and bottom in 2012. as the talent regressed so did he, he's not Brady, he can't win w/ anyone. If he has decent talent he will win.

 

[nyjunc]

As has been shown, Dilfer is not unbiased.


Say it JUNC!!!!! Say it JUNC!! Say I was correct and you were wrong. Here I'll type it for you. You can quote it or cut and paste:

FinfanInBuffalo was correct all along about Sanchez and I (nyjunc) was horribly wrong. Sanchez is done, just like I was told.

how has it been shown? was dilfer unbiased when he had nice things to say about Ryan?

mark has the 3rd most PO wins since entering the league in 2009, you weren't right about anything but keep ignoring how I shredded your weak arguments.

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what does this have to do w/ this discussion? where did I bring up fantasy #s? such a sad, little man.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

mark has the 3rd most PO wins since entering the league in 2009, you weren't right about anything but keep ignoring how I shredded your weak arguments.[

How's that career thing working out for Sanchez? Who got benched? Who got replaced by a rookie? Which team felt the need to replace Sanchez because he wasn't performing? Which QB because the BUTT of world wide jokes (pun intended)?

nyjunc: if next year goes like this year I could see us exploring some options, that would be 2 years w/o improving and that would be a red flag. I don't expect that to happen but you never know.

What does that imply? He needed to improve in 2011 and DID NOT. Those are your words.

BTW. Sanchez does not have the 3rd most PO wins. It is a team game. Get over it. He is done. You have mourned long enough, but I haven't gloated long enough.

 

[nyjunc]

he didn't get benched, he got hurt- HUGE difference and w/ Mark we'd be a playoff team this year.

that was about 2012 not 2011 and he did not improve but you have to look at the circumstances, he was in an impossible situation- something you can't find in a boxscore so I understand why you missed it.

 

[Vaark]

how has it been shown? was dilfer unbiased when he had nice things to say about Ryan?

mark has the 3rd most PO wins since entering the league in 2009, you weren't right about anything but keep ignoring how I shredded your weak arguments.

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what does this have to do w/ this discussion? where did I bring up fantasy #s? such a sad, little man.

sad? for calling out your hypocrisy when it comes to exonerating Sanchez with your excuses while not cutting Tannehill any slack for looking good while his team sucked behind him? If you care about wins, you should be distressed by Sanchez and Rex's performance since week 14 in '11 going forward.. but no, you're continuing to blame everyone else for the guy who throws into triple coverage for the 4th year running. Go figure.

How about someone who's already made 15 posts on an enemy forum during his working hours on his employer's bandwidth? I don't know about you, but I'd call them "pathetic" (that's of course unless it's your social media propagandist job to do just that)

oh and here ya go.. continuing to make excuses for Buttboy

Mark was top 10 in 2010, mid of the pack in 2011 and bottom in 2012. as the talent regressed so did he, he's not Brady, he can't win w/ anyone. If he has decent talent he will win.

 

[nyjunc]

you do a good job of lying and making stuff up, you would think since you stalk me and save all my posts that you could be accurate but unfortunately you are more interested in making things up. so sad.

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pathetic would be a "man" stalking another man over football discussions. That is pathetic, lying is pathetic, taking this stuff so seriously that you have 15 pages of bad photoshops dedicated to me is pathetic.

You want to see pathetic? look in the mirror if you can stand to do so.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

he didn't get benched, he got hurt- HUGE difference and w/ Mark we'd be a playoff team this year.

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/sports/2013/09/04/ny-jets-choose-smith-to-start-season-mark-sanchez-worried-about-future/

"However, according to a source close to Sanchez, the ailing quarterback believes the Jets “organization wants to see him placed on (injured reserve) and be done with him.""

Even Sanchez knows the Jets didn't want him anymore.

http://profootballzone.com/nfl/anonymous-jets-player-80-90-percent-of-the-team-wants-sanchez-benched/

Nor did the rest of the players.

that was about 2012 not 2011 and he did not improve but you have to look at the circumstances, he was in an impossible situation- something you can't find in a boxscore so I understand why you missed it.

I will not let you rewrite history! Again these are YOUR WORDS ABOUT THE 2011 SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!

Funny how you try to rewrite history, even your own. Here is a sequence between you and me from Jan 2012, just after the 2011 season:

nyjunc: he has plenty of flaws and needs to vastly improve upon this year. <<THAT WOULD BE 2011>>

me: or what? What do you think should happen if he doesn't improve? And by when?

nyjunc: if next year goes like this year I could see us exploring some options, that would be 2 years w/o improving and that would be a red flag. I don't expect that to happen but you never know. <<TWO YEARS WITHOUT IMPROVING 2011 AND 2012>>

From Nov 2011:

nyjunc: mark is playing poorly right now no doubt about it, he goes through stretches like this. The hope is he would mature and not go throught hese anymore but that hasn't happened.

me: As I warned you last year, if Sanchez doesn't improve, he'll be gone. IMO, he is done on the Jets, this year or next. He is not improving. He can only be hidden for so long. Once the surrounding cast is not as good and more is expected of him, Rex will lose faith.

You admitted that he did not improve in 2011. He was worse in 2012. You stated (mid way through his third year) that "he goes through stretches like this". Well when could those stretches possibly have happened? IN HIS FIRST TWO YEARS.

 

[nyjunc]

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/sports/2013/09/04/ny-jets-choose-smith-to-start-season-mark-sanchez-worried-about-future/

"However, according to a source close to Sanchez, the ailing quarterback believes the Jets “organization wants to see him placed on (injured reserve) and be done with him.""

Even Sanchez knows the Jets didn't want him anymore.



I will not let you rewrite history! Again these are YOUR WORDS ABOUT THE 2011 SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!

Funny how you try to rewrite history, even your own. Here is a sequence between you and me from Jan 2012, just after the 2011 season:

nyjunc: he has plenty of flaws and needs to vastly improve upon this year. <<THAT WOULD BE 2011>>

me: or what? What do you think should happen if he doesn't improve? And by when?

nyjunc: if next year goes like this year I could see us exploring some options, that would be 2 years w/o improving and that would be a red flag. I don't expect that to happen but you never know. <<TWO YEARS WITHOUT IMPROVING 2011 AND 2012>>

From Nov 2011:

nyjunc: mark is playing poorly right now no doubt about it, he goes through stretches like this. The hope is he would mature and not go throught hese anymore but that hasn't happened.

me: As I warned you last year, if Sanchez doesn't improve, he'll be gone. IMO, he is done on the Jets, this year or next. He is not improving. He can only be hidden for so long. Once the surrounding cast is not as good and more is expected of him, Rex will lose faith.

You admitted that he did not improve in 2011. He was worse in 2012. You stated (mid way through his third year) that "he goes through stretches like this". Well when could those stretches possibly have happened? IN HIS FIRST TWO YEARS.

that proves it, if latino fox news says it then it must be true!:lol2:

he improved his #s in 2011 and you are a #s guy.

for those that understand the game we can see he wasn't as good in 2011 as he was in 2010 despite better #s across the board(and setting a team record for total TDs). IN 2012 no QB could have succeeded and he was going to get one last chance(no matter how badly Idzik wanted Geno) until he got hurt and if he stayed healthy we'd have 2-3 more wins and be in control of a playoff spot.

 

[Vaark]

Pathetic is making excuses for Sanchez by throwing everyone else under the bus while failing to recognize that he makes the same boneheaded decisions and plays, not improving an iota in 4 seasons. Pathetic is inserting yourself on Fins-centric threads trying to deflate the positives or derail them. Pathetic is making 200 posts OCD-style on an enemy forum and maybe 50 more on TGG in less than 2 working days (16 hours) after the Fins kicker blew a win vs the jest last season. Not to mention 30+ posts on an enemy forum this morning during working hours on your employer's time and bandwidth (and heaven knows how many more on TGG and Buffalo Range); Pathetic is having your nighttime and weekend internet privileges revoked at home; pathetic is a grown man (presumably) making approximately 70thousand posts in 3 AFCE forums. Pathetic is being pwned on 2 different forums with everyone realizing it but you.

Sorry but speak the truth here, although you do get the same mistreatment now even on TGG; it was always clear that you were far from the sharpest tool in the shed, but now it looks like you're just a loose tool out of the proverbial shed but regardless, if you can't handle it, no one is forcing you to squat on our site.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

Today:

he improved his #s in 2011

In Jan 2012:

if next year goes like this year I could see us exploring some options, that would be 2 years w/o improving and that would be a red flag

Are you lying (or weasel wording) now or were you lying then?

 

[nyjunc]

Today:



In Jan 2012:



Are you lying (or weasel wording) now or were you lying then?

so how was I wrong? next year was worse and we drafted a QB. I don't think we do that if we don't bring in a new GM but we did and he drafted a QB that hew anted to start and set up a sham competition. If not for that "competition" mark isn't playing late in a preseason game and doesn't get hurt.

 

[Canadi-Phin]

I'd really like Seattle's OC but he does have the benefit of having a pretty decent line, a beast RB and some good receivers. I do like his creativity which I feel is lacking. I'd love to see us run 4-5 read option plays like Seattle did in the first quarter versus the Saints. I feel like it put the other defense off balance early. We need that but also some long throws to open up the field. That would be my game plan to start the game read option and some long throws on the first drive. Make guys think about both.

That's what this thread is about right?

 

[nyjunc]

I'd really like Seattle's OC but he does have the benefit of having a pretty decent line, a beast RB and some good receivers. I do like his creativity which I feel is lacking. I'd love to see us run 4-5 read option plays like Seattle did in the first quarter versus the Saints. I feel like it put the other defense off balance early. We need that but also some long throws to open up the field. That would be my game plan to start the game read option and some long throws on the first drive. Make guys think about both.

That's what this thread is about right?

he has the edge w/ Lynch no doubt but the OLs are similar and you guys have better weapons in the pass game. I could only imagine what Wilson would do w/ Wallace.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

so how was I wrong? next year was worse and we drafted a QB. I don't think we do that if we don't bring in a new GM but we did and he drafted a QB that hew anted to start and set up a sham competition. If not for that "competition" mark isn't playing late in a preseason game and doesn't get hurt.

So, I'll just go with weasel wording now.....

They brought in a new GM because the last one traded up in the draft for a crappy QB. The new one drafts a new QB. You pretend the events are unrelated. If Sanchez didn't suck, you wouldn't have a new GM or QB.