dol_fan_81 said:good find, that could shut up the few remaining doubters
Spegg said:I know a lot of people here get all over Chambers for his drops. I just heard on the radio the top receivers drop %.
1 Burress 11%
2 Kennison 10%
3 Gates 9%
4 C. Johnson 9%
5 Chambers 8%
I'm sure if everyone would love to have Chad Johnson here, but he does drop a higher % of balls than Chambers.
Spegg said:I know a lot of people here get all over Chambers for his drops. I just heard on the radio the top receivers drop %.
1 Burress 11%
2 Kennison 10%
3 Gates 9%
4 C. Johnson 9%
5 Chambers 8%
I'm sure if everyone would love to have Chad Johnson here, but he does drop a higher % of balls than Chambers.
saves said:I'm not a CC hater by any means, but how does that shut up doubter? Dosn't that show he has one of the top dropping % in the NFL?
Disnardo said:I don't know where those stats of drop % come from, but according to our lovable STATS Inc, CC has dropped...
8 in 2005, that is 9%...caught 82 (dropped 1 out of every 11 catches)...
4 in 2004, that is 5%... caught 69 (dropped 1 out of every 18 catches)...
4 in 2003, that is 6%... caught 64 (dropped 1 out of every 17 catches)...
this was his worst year for drops, as well as his best year in catches and yards...
I kind of agree with you on the issues of poor passing...Eshlemon said:Shouldn't the percentages for CC be more like: 166 times thrown to, 82 caught (49.4%), 8 drops (4.8%), & 76 passes defensed/poor throws/other (45.8%).
Edit: Not defending CC's drops for year, was the worst of career for drops. Just think they should be tied to how many times he's thrown the ball.
flintsilver7 said:I don't see how the methodology is flawed, because your argument about inaccurate quarterbacks doesn't apply. According to ESPN's stats on completions, the team's completion percentage has absolutely no correlation with the receiver's drops. When I plot completion percentage against the receivers in descending order of drop percentage, it looks jagged. A linear trendline is completely flat; a 5th-degree polynomial trendline oscillates minimally up and down. The average completion percentage of the lowest 30 receivers' respective teams was 58.0% while the league average was 59.5%. The average for the first 15 on my list was 57.8%; the average for the next 15 was 58.2%. I'm making the case that a quarterback's accuracy actually has little if anything to do with the receiver's drops. My list includes 30 players from 21 teams - hardly only accurate or only inaccurate quarterbacks.
There are ultimately three statistics for a receiver relating to this: receptions, passes dropped, and passes not caught that were not catchable with normal effort. While I understand what you're saying, I don't believe for a second it's true because the numbers simply do not support it.
saves said:I'm not a CC hater by any means, but how does that shut up doubter? Dosn't that show he has one of the top dropping % in the NFL?
cltchperf said:I think it shows more for him than against him. Look at the whole list, look how many wrs are one down at 7 or 6, they are pretty good receivers. Gus who are targeted a lot.http://snap.stats.com/snap/SFA/nfl/leaders.asp?year=P&type=NFL+Receiving&rank=232&Submit=Go
it also shows that how many times you drop the ball dosn't mean you are a bad reciever. people are always saying that CC is not a #1 WR because of his dropping problem, but these stats show that many great recievers drop the ball more than chris