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Chris Perkins: Dolphins headed for mediocrity in 2025 before 2026 rebuild

We will agree to disagree then. If you watch the play clock on every play it goes down to the wire. That is my proof. When the least little thing goes wrong, call TO.
I’m not saying that there isn’t an issue. I’m saying that the issue seems to be league wide and the Dolphins don’t do it at some abnormally high rate, but since we watch the Dolphins more it’s more noticeable.

And I think the biggest issue with plays being snapped close to the play clock running out is new players to a new system and injuries… which means those players have also not practiced as much because they are backups.
 
I try to be critical without being silly.

You want to talk about tanking as short-sighted or about how pivoting 180 degrees in '21-'22 shows a lack of leadership or about how hiring a HC and then firing him for not being the right guy just a few years later or about how drafting WR #6 overall and then trading the world for another the very next year shows a lack of coherent vision...

...dude, there's a reasonable way to sound intelligent in one's criticism by highlighting how Dolphins leadership have contradicted themselves or simply demonstrated they have little vision given the lack of coherence in the year-to-year moves.

Complaining about being "fraudulent" or moaning about 20-year Playoff droughts is lazy though, especially when it leads into people saying other 'don't have high standards.'

Those are non-sequiturs. There are real issues and if a poster focuses their criticism on those with real effort, I have no issue with that dissent. It's what many do. It's what I do.

I think it's easier to believe people want to feel justified in hating the team when it doesn't win. They're upset. They want figures to blame and they want to feel superior in their view so they lie about how they truly feel. Their hurt so they cover it up. Most of it's subconscious. And it's a waste of time to listen to.

It's self-righteous nonsense.

It just the outlet for fans who've given up. And that's fine mind you. I just don't think it gives those people the basis to criticize others whose perspective leads to different conclusions.

I'm sick of listening to people complain about this team. Grow up and move on. Do something else with your life, I say. These kinds of negative people would be equally pessimistic if they were Bengals, Chargers or Ravens fans.

This cynicism is their personality. It has nothing to do with the Miami Dolphins. When you realize that you'll hate them for who they are and not what they claim to have suffered through.
Exactly. What teams have underachieved more than the Ravens and Bills? They supposedly have all time great QB’s and still can’t get past the playoffs. Even when they have elite defenses, minimal injuries, and good HC’s.
 
I just don't believe in the personnel managing this team. I wish I did, and because I don't I would begin making the preparations to transition them out of the organization entirely. That goes for McDaniel and for Grier.

The next matter is QB. I believe the best move for this team is to try and set Tua up to have a league-leading potentially MVP season. I mean really truly ball out like it's 2023. Get this man 4500 passing yards and 30+ TDs, because it sets us up for the next move in 2026. Trade him for a tractor trailer full of draft picks (if possible). Trade Tyreek. Trade Waddle. Trade anything that looks valuable. Because 2026 looks like a year of pain and growth, developing young players, and so forth.

Then there's Ewers, who I would make chief clipboard holder for at least a couple of seasons. Really try and develop him because I think the potential is very much there. You don't bet the farm on him, but you take a long look and see what kind of development can be done there. He either is hungry to play football or he's not. I've heard he might not be, but then I also see where if he is then following the Tom Brady path makes sense in terms of correcting all his flaws and really grinding to become NFL ready. It's up to him.

2027 would be the next season this team is possibly in contention with 2028 being the "all systems are go" year.

Of course, I feel like all of it is irrelevant without the right man at GM. It all starts from there and flows from there.
If Tua balls out and has an MVP season like you say and they trade him I'd want everyone on the spot fired. Why the hell would you ever trade a MVP QB that isn't in his late 30's? That's just batshit levels of insane.
 
I’ve watched every game more than once.

One thing I’ve learned in my over 45 yrs of NFL watching and Miami Dolphins fandom is that when you have a favorite team you become overly critical. Again, I’ve seen no evidence that McD is worse at using TO’s than the league in general. It’s like the other guy who honestly believed that delay of game penalties were some major flaw in McD’s coaching. In reality, he’s gotten much better each season and he was 3rd best in the NFL last season. We watch the Dolphins and hope for perfection and when that doesn’t happen we get overly critical.

We have to also take into account that players affect the plays timing pre and post. Some of that is on McD, some of that is on having new players, some of that is on the player for not knowing the play. But again, wasted timeouts seems to be a huge issue in the NFL right now. IMO, I think the limited practicing allowed by the NFL and Player’s Union plays a huge part in that.
Wow what a stupid post
 
In 2024, the Miami Dolphins had exactly...*Checks Notes* 3 delay of game penalties. Which made them, *Checks Notes again*...tied for 3rd fewest in the NFL.

(The average last season was 5.4 delay of game penalties per team.)
But how many wasted timeouts?
 
And… just to make a point.

Allen in 0-4 on the road in the playoffs and has anyone dared look at the play of Jackson in the postseason? He’s been utterly horrific.
 
That might be all well and good but it doesn't mean anything at the end of the day!
Well it kinda does. The point of this was people saying McDaniel has lost the locker room without any real evidence except hearsay. We know for a fact that McDaniel got an A+ on the coaching side of the franchise from the players yet we are now saying that doesn't matter and all the players don't respect him, don't want to play for him, want a free holiday etc based on absolutely nothing.

The only tangible thing we have in all of this is the A+, everything else is opinions to fit an agenda.
 
But how many wasted timeouts?
Hard to know without knowing what constitutes a “wasted timeout”. It’s so subjective, and without knowing all the discussions leading up to the TO we probably can’t know for certain. We may watch a play and deem a TO was wasted, but if we asked McD why it was called he may have a very reasonable explanation as to why it was called.
 
Well it kinda does. The point of this was people saying McDaniel has lost the locker room without any real evidence except hearsay. We know for a fact that McDaniel got an A+ on the coaching side of the franchise from the players yet we are now saying that doesn't matter and all the players don't respect him, don't want to play for him, want a free holiday etc based on absolutely nothing.

The only tangible thing we have in all of this is the A+, everything else is opinions to fit an agenda.
And what I am saying is I don't care about that because it doesn't mean that he will all of a sudden become a better head coach. I can give a rats ass if he is likable in the locker room. He needs to become a better head coach or he needs to get the hell out of here.
 
I don’t see any evidence that one single person believes Grier is doing a great job.

I do see, however, reasonable and objective people looking at all the facts and seeing that McD, with 3 years experience as a HC, doing very well. That doesn’t mean he hasn’t made mistakes, even seasoned HC’s make mistakes.
Fair enough about Grier. However, when it comes to McDaniel, I just believe that it was dumb to hire a guy with no experience running anything at any level. Coordinators who become Head coaches are usually successful at running their side of the ball on a good team and have years of experience doing so. McDaniel was never more than an Assistant Offensive Coach who got promoted straight to HC. He was a "Run Game Coordinator" in SF, which probably means that he designed some plays, but never called them. Even when he was OC for one season, it was in name only, as Kyle Shanahan called the plays. New HCs can have growing pains, sure, but in Miami, McDaniel is basically "learning on the job" not only how to be a HC, but also how to be an OC, and to make matters worse, he has no teacher to teach him, as even his OC never called plays before either. He might design some decent plays, but when defenses figured out how to stop/disrupt his offense he couldn't counter because he has no experience.
Well, in 2023 they were tied with 5th fewest delay of game penalties in the NFL and once again under the league average. He’s gotten better each season that he’s been HC.

You keep writing “wasted timeouts”. Care to show what TO’s you think were wasted and if they are an abnormal number?
I have no way of doing that. That said, the problem is more than just a few delay of game penalties and time-outs used to keep from getting a delay of game penalty. The problem is a playcaller who can't get the plays into the huddle quick enough. It can't be easy for a QB to read a defense when he has to hurry up and get the ball snapped because they're running out of time.
We have to also take into account that players affect the plays timing pre and post. Some of that is on McD, some of that is on having new players, some of that is on the player for not knowing the play. But again, wasted timeouts seems to be a huge issue in the NFL right now. IMO, I think the limited practicing allowed by the NFL and Player’s Union plays a huge part in that.
Good point about limited practices. However, McDaniel takes it even further by allowing players to skip practices and veteran rest days. I can see this being somewhat okay for a contender, but not for a team that hasn't accomplished anything. Also, how often did we see the players break the huddle with just seconds left on the clock, but one or sometimes two players had to go into motion because that's what McDaniel loves to do, and they ended up with a penalty or having to take a time-out? Even if it doesn't result in a penalty or wasted time-out, IMO it's still hurting the offense's ability to read the defense and make audibles, if that's even allowed.

Is it that the offense is far too complicated? Is the terminology so wordy that it takes forever to call in a play? Is McDaniel unsure of what to call? It's probably all of these. Personally, I'm glad that the League made rule changes that forced Miami to cut down on the number of pre-snap motions. I'm probably way off base here, but IMO all that was just a sneaky way of trying to trick the defense. I know that's the job of an offense, but I also feel that McDaniel did it because he knew his team had no chance of standing up to a defense and overpowering them. IOW, McDaniel prefers finesse over old-school toughness, and I've seen that ever since Philbin brought his fancy, finesse style offense to Miami, they've been pushed around and dominated by tough, physical teams, so that's why I want McDaniel gone.

IOW, we can agree to disagree. :chuckle:
 
Exactly. What teams have underachieved more than the Ravens and Bills? They supposedly have all time great QB’s and still can’t get past the playoffs. Even when they have elite defenses, minimal injuries, and good HC’s.
Well, I have to admit that this is a good point. They keep making the playoffs and win a few, but for some reason, they can't go all the way. IMO, Jackson's mobility was a greater strength than his passing, but he seems to be getting a little better at throwing the ball. Allen is strong and mobile with a decent arm, but IMO he still makes some bad throws.

They're both much closer to a Super Bowl appearance than Miami is. And, it's odd that Buffalo could beat KC in the regular season, but not in the playoffs. We know that KC isn't invincible because they've already lost to bad teams in the regular season. I like that Philly crushed KC in the Super Bowl, because IMO it proves that you can win by being tough in the trenches, having a defense that can pressure and contain QBs, and by having a strong running game, even if you don't have a so-called "elite" QB.

This is exactly the type of team I want Miami to build, but IMO it can't happen with Grier and McDaniel. They're building from the outside in and not doing so well at that especially on defense right now, and on offense McDaniel seems to prefer speedy little WRs over a strong o-line. Most here can agree that Grier has had more than enough time to build a strong team and be fiscally responsible, but he's failed over and over again. With McDaniel, many seem to think that he's slowly getting better and needs more time and probably a better roster and GM. I can understand that sentiment, but as long as McFancypants keeps wanting to be more finesse than tough and physical, I want him gone. :shrug:
 
Fraudulent? Maybe. They were definitely pretenders, though. McDaniel went from wizard to magician, and not in a good sort of way like an Edgar Casey or whatever but more like the guy with bag full of trickery. No real magic. Very one-dimensional, actually.

That is what ultimately sealed his fate with me very early last season. He's not a man with a hundred answers. He's a man with the same answer to everything. When that answer gets defeated, he has nothing else to offer but quips and looks. The nerd facade has faded away. He's just a less athletic jock with probably a penchant for drug use. Would not doubt if everyone running this team is on drugs, frankly...

90% of the NFL has leadership exactly like the Dolphins with an Owner looking to press buttons and a Front Office looking to make moves fixing what didn't go right with the last rebuild.

Do a study on what kind of HCs have dominated hiring in the last decade and it'll be depressing. McDaniel types are the norm and for that matter so is the Dolphins recent history.

The fans who act like the Dolphins are exceptional in their "failures" are fooling themselves. It's the fact they can't break out of the same cycle that's killing everyone around the NFL which is the real problem.

The Dolphins problem isn't that they fail...so does almost everyone. The problem is that they can't differentiate themselves.

So, the question is simple...what does that take?

Failure and turnover is the expectation around the NFL and the Dolphins are hardly exceptional in how they've struggled: inexperienced HCs not having all the answers, those same HCs routinely getting blamed and fired, a defense permanently under construction that sees a new DC every couple seasons thus killing any identity it might otherwise have, a QB who's under-delivering (in our case based on injury), a QB being asked to carry too much of the load because of a roster that needs help in other areas, FAs who aren't working out and who hold too much sway in team planning, a string of mid/late-round misses in the draft...

It's when you look at "success" that you begin to realize how ridiculous those stories are and how flukey every success story is.

Just as one example, the Chiefs start under Andy Reid was boring. People weren't sure of Reid's value coming off his time in Philly where he'd constantly been in contention but failed to win the biggest games.

The Chiefs under HC Andy Reid started 1-4 in the Playoffs between 2013 and 2017 along with a year when they didn't even qualify at all. That was the era of Alex Smith, Jamaal Charles, Kareem Hunt, Dwayne Bowe, Jeremy Maclin, Justin Houston and others. They weren't a bad team but they were constantly 2nd in their division (behind the Broncos) and weren't winning anything of note.

Sound familiar?

Then in came the Hall-of-Fame draft picks. On top of Travis Kelce, in came Pat Mahomes, Tyreek Hill and Chris Jones. Suddenly things caught fire and the rest is history. They also added SB-winning DC Steve Spagnuolo a year later as well who improve their defense. They went from what we are to what we'd be with Pat Mahomes and a few other HOF players scattered around the roster at critical positions.

Was that a change in leadership that did that? Nope. Most of those HOF picks were John Dorsey / Andy Reid picks from the '13-'16 era. Even when Dorsey was hired away in '17, he was replaced by an internal subordinate who continued the same Front Office.

In other words, they went from good to great on the back of a bunch of unforeseeable good luck. Trading up for Pat Mahomes was nice but few saw him being the best ever. Finding Chris Jones in R2? Okay, good for you. That's solid drafting.

But c'mon....finding one of the most prolific TEs in NFL history R3 and then pairing that with finding Tyreek Hill in R5?!

That's a fluke and more often than not, that's what creates greatness in the NFL. Some fluke like Dan Marino falls into your lap at just the right time and changes the course of your franchise from solid to historically significant.

There are plenty of other examples, too.

Why was Jalen Hurts the 5th QB taken when he's so good? Is that not a great deal of luck, especially when that same Eagles team drafted a bust of a WR in front of him in R1? Pretty sure they didn't see that coming. They were in the midst of the Carson Wentz era anyhow.

Coaches are the same way. Where's the next John Harbaugh?

For that matter, who's the next Lamar Jackson? Is it Jayden Daniels or one of the guys drafted before him who failed like Justin Fields? To that end, where's Caleb Williams? Wasn't he Mahomes 2.0?

Can we even say that Lamar Jackson would've been successful just anywhere? He was a bad a passer at Louisville who needed tons of development and had it not been for where he went (an already good team) he probably wouldn't have had the time to develop. Most QBs aren't given 6-7 years to show their best stuff.

If you go back to years 4-5 you see that Lamar Jackson was a struggling QB who played 12 games a season and couldn't break 3,000 passing yards in a season. There was plenty of concern about giving him a 2nd contract. Yes, the talent was there but the Ravens were taking a risk and needed some good breaks.


I'll say this...the NFL is about risk. If you think it's all part of some master plan and that there's a recipe for success that isn't 50% luck, you're crazy.

The NFL is not a place for people who think they know everything. Fans sound entirely out of touch when they try to act like they saw it all coming.

NOBODY is even close.
 
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My biggest fear with that is having a mediocre season, then Grier "stepping down" to a different role in the team and them promoting Champ Kelly to GM...if they think that will appease the fans they may be right but it will only lead to more mediocrity in the future. We need to clean this thing from the top to the bottom and bring in guys that know how to succeed, someone from the KC/Philly etc front offices that have seen what a well-run franchise looks like, please no more half measures Mr. Ross
And please, if we do start over, make it a real start over and get Grier off the property along with most of his staff. We will need a new, un-related GM to change the culture in Miami. If the new GM likes a staff member, up to him to keep him.
This is not saying I am not hopeful this year, but I am also a realist and do not expect much.
 
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