Cut Mare - Sign France?

[HelloMotto]

Age isn't the problem, his inconsistency is. He hasn't played at a top level since Doug Blevins left three to four years ago.

what? he had a couple of misses in the dirt and hurt his calf and now he's washed up. you guys amaze me. I guess you forget what it's like to have a crap kicker. ask the jets last year. The kicker is very important. If it's not broken don't fix it. :yell:

 

[finswin56]

We can't cut Mare. He would be too much of a big hit on our cap. Can't remember the exact # right now, but the last time this was brought up that is was what came of that thread.

ding ding ding

 

[T tes]

You can cut mare...he is getting to old, hes not as accurate, and hes staring to get alot of injuries
But DONT bring in France pick up a fa or something but noone from Europe who isnt that good.

 

[Predaphin]

I don't know if I want anybody named "France" on my team...the guy will probably surrender when he feels some pressure...:tongue:

can't be any worse then having a guy named Nugent, as in "chicken" nugent.

 

[Prime]

Why would we even dumb Mare for a Europe kicker for?....It doesnt make any sense on why you thought this up.

 

[GRT8]

And If He Is On The Practice Squad He Is Fair Game For The Whole League

 

[GRT8]

Haaaaaaaaaaa The Guy May Quit In The Heat Of Battle........

 

[Agua]

what? he had a couple of misses in the dirt and hurt his calf and now he's washed up. you guys amaze me. I guess you forget what it's like to have a crap kicker. ask the jets last year. The kicker is very important. If it's not broken don't fix it. :yell:

Three misses in 2003 cost us two games (Houston / NE). A win in either of those games would have put us in the playoffs and given us an 11-5 season.

I'm not saying to cut him to sign whoever this nobody is the original poster suggested. I'm saying Mare hasn't performed and is a disappointement.

 

[Nicky Napoleon]

In about 6 years I will be calling for the Phins to draft my little cousin! He is a lifelong soccer player who has taken up feild goal kicking thanks to his coach. I know I am biased but so far he is perfect on kicks from 50+ yards (4-4) Not bad for a 16 year old!

 

[wpgfishfan]

Three misses in 2003 cost us two games (Houston / NE). A win in either of those games would have put us in the playoffs and given us an 11-5 season.

I'm not saying to cut him to sign whoever this nobody is the original poster suggested. I'm saying Mare hasn't performed and is a disappointement.

Yes he is not perfect didn't he help us win the Browns game last year with a 50 yarder??

Also when healthy he can lead the NFL in touchbacks as he did in 2003. He might not be the top 3 kicker he once was but I still think he is a top 10-15 kicker

 

[Dolphin_Daz]

Why would we even dumb Mare for a Europe kicker for?....It doesnt make any sense on why you thought this up.

A certain Pats kicker has made it big in the NFL after being in Europe. France could be the new AV?:D

 

[burger13]

Had I responded w/o doing my homework.....I would have dismissed this thread as complete garbage. BUT......

I took a look at how Olindo stacks up against the other kickers in the league, and to my surprise, the answer is, NOT TOO WELL.

Out of the 29 kickers that have been in the top-30 for FG's made in at least 2 of the last 3 years (stats were limited by what NFL.com provides, but I think this includes every kicker of note for that period)......Mare ranks at #22. 22!!!

So going by the last 3 years......we are in the bottom third of the league as far as out Kicker goes.

So, while I don't condone scrapping Mare for a NFL Europe player....I do think that he is on the hot seat this year, and I wouldn't mind seeing some serious competition brought into camp for the spot.

Here's the numbers:

Player Team FGM FGA Long PCT
Matt Stover BAL 83 95 51 87.4%
Jason Hanson DET 69 79 54 87.3%
Mike Vanderjagt IND 80 93 54 86.0%
Adam Vinatieri NE 83 97 57 85.6%
David Akers PHI 81 95 57 85.3%
Ryan Longwell GB 75 88 53 85.2%
S. Janikowski OAK 73 86 55 84.9%
Jeff Wilkins STL 77 91 53 84.6%
Shayne Graham CIN 62 74 53 83.8%
Doug Brien NYJ 56 67 53 83.6%
Morten Andersen MIN 56 68 50 82.4%
Phil Dawson CLE 64 78 52 82.1%
Josh Brown SEA 45 55 58 81.8%
Gary Anderson TEN 62 76 53 81.6%
John Kasay CAR 53 65 54 81.5%
John Carney NO 75 92 53 81.5%
Jason Elam DEN 82 101 55 81.2%
Jeff Reed PIT 68 84 51 81.0%
Rian Lindell BUF 64 81 52 79.0%
Neil Rackers ARI 46 59 55 78.0%
Jay Feely ATL 69 90 52 76.7%
Olindo Mare MIA 58 76 53 76.3%
John Hall WAS 57 75 54 76.0%
Billy Cundiff DAL 55 74 52 74.3%
Steve Christie NYG 55 74 53 74.3%
Kris Brown HOU 52 70 51 74.3%
Todd Peterson SF 42 58 51 72.4%
Paul Edinger CHI 63 88 54 71.6%
Martin Gramatica TB/IND 59 84 53 70.2%

 

[finsmx]

i know mare has benn inconsistent but you can't replace him for a guy kicking in europe come on

 

[finsmx]

Had I responded w/o doing my homework.....I would have dismissed this thread as complete garbage. BUT......

I took a look at how Olindo stacks up against the other kickers in the league, and to my surprise, the answer is, NOT TOO WELL.

Out of the 29 kickers that have been in the top-30 for FG's made in at least 2 of the last 3 years (stats were limited by what NFL.com provides, but I think this includes every kicker of note for that period)......Mare ranks at #22. 22!!!

So going by the last 3 years......we are in the bottom third of the league as far as out Kicker goes.

So, while I don't condone scrapping Mare for a NFL Europe player....I do think that he is on the hot seat this year, and I wouldn't mind seeing some serious competition brought into camp for the spot.

Here's the numbers:

Player Team FGM FGA Long PCT
Matt Stover BAL 83 95 51 87.4%
Jason Hanson DET 69 79 54 87.3%
Mike Vanderjagt IND 80 93 54 86.0%
Adam Vinatieri NE 83 97 57 85.6%
David Akers PHI 81 95 57 85.3%
Ryan Longwell GB 75 88 53 85.2%
S. Janikowski OAK 73 86 55 84.9%
Jeff Wilkins STL 77 91 53 84.6%
Shayne Graham CIN 62 74 53 83.8%
Doug Brien NYJ 56 67 53 83.6%
Morten Andersen MIN 56 68 50 82.4%
Phil Dawson CLE 64 78 52 82.1%
Josh Brown SEA 45 55 58 81.8%
Gary Anderson TEN 62 76 53 81.6%
John Kasay CAR 53 65 54 81.5%
John Carney NO 75 92 53 81.5%
Jason Elam DEN 82 101 55 81.2%
Jeff Reed PIT 68 84 51 81.0%
Rian Lindell BUF 64 81 52 79.0%
Neil Rackers ARI 46 59 55 78.0%
Jay Feely ATL 69 90 52 76.7%
Olindo Mare MIA 58 76 53 76.3%
John Hall WAS 57 75 54 76.0%
Billy Cundiff DAL 55 74 52 74.3%
Steve Christie NYG 55 74 53 74.3%
Kris Brown HOU 52 70 51 74.3%
Todd Peterson SF 42 58 51 72.4%
Paul Edinger CHI 63 88 54 71.6%
Martin Gramatica TB/IND 59 84 53 70.2%

you certainly did do your homework

 

[gator_sensation]

Hi guys. Ive heard people say lets get rid of Mare because he is getting on a bit etc. Well if we do i say we go after Todd France. Tampa Bay Bucks Kicker. He is in Europe right now for all that dont know and he is hitting everything. 54 yarder today vs Berlin.

If he is let go by Tampa i say we get him locked up on a deal and let mare go.

Thoughts?

You don't get rid of a proven NFL kicker for a unproven NFLE kicker :shakeno: