Dan Marino-"I'd throw for 6,000 yards"

[CMD]

3 McCullers DT Tennessee.

McCullers isn't a fit here, would change.

 

[CalDolFan10x14]

Look mom, it's the happy adjuster thread. Like a magnet.

No boats, no lights, no motor cars..and no limits to the lunacy.

I didn't see the segment so I can't judge how serious Marino was. If he believes it at all, we're much better off if he remains outside the organization.

BTW, I think you guys are stuck in early 2012. The recent trend is actually down. From 2010 to 2011 the number of 4000 yard passers doubled in one season, and there were three guys above 5000. That led to predictable fanciful assertions that the 4000 club would soon double again, up to 20, and that 5000 would become the new 4000. That offseason I was maybe the only one who predicted that the trend would naturally reverse, with a downtick. That's exactly what happened. This season there were only 3 quarterbacks above 4600 and the 4000 club declined slightly from 2011 and 2012 levels.

Let's see, the 7000 yard geniuses want Marino more than 50% above all but 3 quarterbacks in the league. Yep, makes perfect sense. I want my name attached to that.

Find that bar stool quickly, for the comfort level of an equal idiot in the adjacent chair.

 

[DonStrock#10]

Marino would destroy the rest of the NFL today if he was still a QB.

I recall his first start against the Buffalo Bills in 1983. They lost 38-35 but I was in awe at the time. After the game, Kuechenberg was raving about Dan.

Glory days, guys. Glory days...

And by far the G.O.A.T. It's not even close...

 

[WeVie]

Joe Montana on Mike&Mike more or less asserted the same thing this morning without the specific numbers declaring that under the present setup, he wouldn't want to be on the other side of a "Danny Marino" air attack. :up: So if the iconic 4X SB winning QB says its so, it's probably so. :idk:

I was watching this morning when he said that. I simply smiled.

 

[100% Dolphins]

I love Dan Marino .

 

[NRA]

AWSI:

something tells me it wouldnt matter but try to READ the post.

im sure the bar stool line i mentioned at the end of my post is the catalyst for your misplaced, self serving jabs.

my statement about "bar stool memories" had NOTHING to do with how many yds dan would or would not throw for today. it was a statement about how good he actually was and his accomplishment then were NO exaggeration or myth.

but, you knew that, right?

and as far as that stool at he bar you mentioned [pretty juvenile] you just sat down in it!! :brewskis:

READ before PERSONAL ATTACKING me. it was un called for.

 

[HoustonPhinFan]

Just watched a great segment between Dan, Michael Irvin and Eisen on NFLN. Irvin gave Dan a TON of love. He said he wanted to play with the Mark Brothers and Dan so bad back in the day. "We could have killed with this dude right here." Irvin said Dan is right up there with Bruce Lee and Ali in his "man cave."

When asked how many yards he would throw for with the current rules today, Dan jokingly/unjokingly said he would throw for "6,000 yards all the time." Irvin backed him up 100%.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/super-bowl-live/0ap2000000319646/Marino-I-d-throw-for-6-000-yards

I will go one more step. He would have 2-3 SuperBowls. He wouldn't need a defense or running game. Manning and Brady to me are bad imitations of Dan Marino.

 

[WeVie]

There have already been three instances this week in which people have praised Dan Marino.

Of course Irvin in the click that this tread was started about.

The second time was as Vaark mentioned. Joe Montana talked about how good he was and said something along the lines of "in today's game, I wouldn't want to face him."

The third time was Archie Manning this morning on Mike and Mike. They were asking him about the year Peyton had this year and if it was the best ever for a QB. He it was a really good year but this Broncos team is also a really good team. When asked about other great QBs and seasons, without hesitation he said Dan Marino.


The arguments will never cease but there is no doubt to me that he is/was the greatest. The fact of the matter is that for most of his career, he played on some pretty bad teams and without him, they would have been lucky to break .500 each season with that pitiful running game and no defense. I remember how pissed off and just sick to see Marino and the offense score 40+ points and still lose.

 

[Finsfan1984]

Dan was/is the Man, and the GOAT throwing the ball no doubt in my mind. Anyone who disses on Dan is NOT a true dolphin fan and can kiss my red freckled arss!!!

 

[Awsi Dooger]

Let me provide some perspective:

The current odds on a 6000 yard season from the best quarterback in the league, one specific guy, would be in the 50/1 range. At 7000 it would be 1000/1. That's not a typo. The same crowd who doesn't think it's much of an ask to get from 5000 to 6000 undoubtedly believes it's just a small hurdle to find 7000 instead of 6000. Unless you are adding games, it multiplies exponentially.

I've been told it's a violation to jolt the forum. Maybe the forum needs to jolt itself, with real world understanding and not merely moving numbers around with no sense of the altered burden.

BTW, I'm talking about man to man odds. The sportsbook would never actually give you 50/1. They would realize the sucker factor, that fans -- like the happy adjusters in this thread -- are willing to take far below what they deserve in the fascination with wild projections. If there were a two-way betting prop on one quarterback managing 6000 yards next season, it might look like this:

-7000 NO
+3000 YES

That means anyone wanting to bet NO would be asked to put up $7000 to win $100 while a YES would risk $100 to win $3000. The NO would undoubtedly move up in price since a handful of bettors wouldn't mind the risk.

I realize that posters want to believe Marino doesn't fit the restraints or normal odds, that he'd wipe out any barrier in this era. Meanwhile, 6000 yards is 375 per game. Marino only averaged above 280 twice in his career. Every time you slip to "merely" 325 you have to balance with 425 somewhere along the line. The team couldn't afford a game in which the running game dominated, because that might mean an early lead and no need to throw for 375 yards or anything close to that. You'd have to avoid a wind game, or a weather game. Basically, everything normal couldn't happen, including the renewed emphasis on defense from teams like the Seahawks, 49ers and Panthers.

I'm not going to stop pointing out the nonsense. There should be some self restraint. I've noted that from some posters in recent months, but not nearly enough. The sports world in general lends itself to ridiculous exaggeration but normally the specialized forums are somewhat immune.

 

[Awsi Dooger]

AWSI:

something tells me it wouldnt matter but try to READ the post.

im sure the bar stool line i mentioned at the end of my post is the catalyst for your misplaced, self serving jabs.

my statement about "bar stool memories" had NOTHING to do with how many yds dan would or would not throw for today. it was a statement about how good he actually was and his accomplishment then were NO exaggeration or myth.

but, you knew that, right?

and as far as that stool at he bar you mentioned [pretty juvenile] you just sat down in it!! :brewskis:

READ before PERSONAL ATTACKING me. it was un called for.

NRA, the bar stool line wasn't directed to you at all. I didn't notice your mention. I've used "bar stool" countless times in recent months and years on this site and elsewhere as symbolizing the type of fan who sits in a crowd and feels no restraint at screaming and exaggerating the most recent trend on the screen, or the most recent conventional wisdom theme in the sports world. He knows the guy seated next to him is going to take the exaggeration even further, and they'll toast. Then the new guy in the next stool will take it to the next level. That's how 6000 turns into 7000, and nobody notices it makes zero sense.

It might not be the best term but it's the one I came up with. It actually originated because I sat at Ale House in Kendall during a big game a few years ago and that's the type I was surrounded with. It drove me nuts until I realized it wasn't going to change so I sat back and absorbed in wonderment. I've been to sports bars tons of times in Las Vegas but in that town it's all betting related chatter so the themes aren't the same.

I'm sorry if you mistook something I wrote as specific to you. I'm probably guilty of that on this site during emotional periods, like the recent general manager search.

We disagree on political matters but I respect your posts.

 

[jg772006]

If Marino played today, it would be totally unfair. He was born 20 years too early. He'll always be the best ... ring or no ring.

 

[southjerzmastax]

He is the all time best qb. Dan Marino.

 

[Digital]

To be honest, in a hurry-up offense like most teams run these days and with the rule set of todays game ... Dan would likely throw for more than 7,000 yards. His cannon arm, quick release, phenomenal vision both deep and peripheral, he would be unstoppable. Give him a good big TE like Gronkowski or Graham and it would be like taking candy from a baby. To be honest, the best TE Dan even played with was Keith Jackson and he was 6'3 and at the end of his career. With Jimmy Graham Dan would put up head-spinning numbers.

In this era where offense wins championships, he would also have rings IMHO.

 

[tay0365]

If Dan played today, only one man could stop Dan from reaching 350-400 yards, 3-4 TDs each game...and that would be the Head Coach.