Dansby not happy with Dolphins’ decision to dump Chad Johnson

[J. David Wannyheimer]

I meant up to this point Chad had no arrest. You are missing my point which is they should have let NFL Security concluded it's investigation. Those guys are very good at what they do and uncover so many facts that never make the public.

I don't think he was cut because he got arrested. I think he was cut because he was a huge headache and distraction. Going through criminal proceedings would make him an even bigger headache and distraction.

 

[hoops]

the first team d did look poor but in watching the game over it sure looked to me like gary guyton was awful in run fits...on the soft corner run by blount i think it was where wake got too far inside guyton is the guy who has the best shot to keep him from turning the corner and for some damn reason he decides to take on the pulling blocker way inside of the corner instead of flowing outside for contain...as such dansby from where he started could not get there til he was already around the edge...burnett plays that better no doubt in my mind...

the other thing though is if we want to contain outside runs we need to roll with vontae and marshall as starting cb...they're both great run support corners...sean smith is gonna give guys the inside or outside no matter what when he's in contain...just know that

 

[hoops]

i can't believe you guys think this is the same thing as koa misi and why would misi get a pass...totally different points of both players careers...and misi doesn't run his mouth all the damn time unlike chad...

made sense to not let go of misi made no sense to keep on his deathbed as a player chad

 

[Daytona Fin]

I don't think he was cut because he got arrested. I think he was cut because he was a huge headache and distraction. Going through criminal proceedings would make him an even bigger headache and distraction.

Yeah , Philbin said Chad was cut because of his whole body of work so far, off field and on field. I'm sure his arrest was at the top of the list of reasons but it seems they weren't as enamored with chad , like a lot believed, before this incident

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

Yeah , Philbin said Chad was cut because of his whole body of work so far, off field and on field. I'm sure his arrest was at the top of the list of reasons but it seems they weren't as enamored with chad , like a lot believed, before this incident

The bottom line is that if Chad were an amazing player, he might have survived this. Indeed, he was able to survive a lot of stuff in his career because he was very talented. But age has caught up with him, and now he has to face the consequences of his stupidity.

Most people are properly socialized when they enter the workforce, or become properly socialized very quickly when they realize that they need to meet some basic measure of decent conduct to maintain gainful employment. Apparently, this isn't always the case with phenomenally gifted athletes. Chad is going to have a rough time adjusting to life after football. I doubt guys like forums poster 'OCHO' are plentiful enough in this world to make things easy for him.

 

[hoops]

fellas...if this was 3 years ago...chads still here...this is about a lot of things...if he was making legit wr money he's probably still here...the league doesn't see the value in a aging wr who runs his mouth too damn much...the reward doesn't outweigh the risk cause the players a shadow of what he used to be...new england figured it out and we would have also...

 

[flynryan15]

How hard he works has nothing to do with him being a diva. Chad is the defintion of NFL diva. And just to catch you up, Tannehill was not holding out on a contract that he was under, he had just not yet signed a contract. BIG difference.

See that is where we differ on opinion to me a diva is a guy like Moss or Vontea that just get by on talent

 

[hoops]

on another note only one game but i wasn't in love with what i saw from richard marshall in the slot either...

 

[72champagne]

if i were Philbin at the next press conference when asked about Dansby's comments...

'i understand Karlos being upset and disappointed about the fate of his friend but i am responsible for judging what is and isn't acceptable for this team. ideally, i would prefer the players defer to my judgment and decisions on these kinds of matters but if not then freely relate their dissent or concerns to me personally, instead of airing them publicly. that way there is no confusion about issues related to these decisions or the ideal of team unity, team spirit and public respectability we are striving for.'

 

[PSU Cane]

i don't understand why people knock on dansby so much...was he out of shape first half of last year...yes...he's still way the hell better than any lb we've had here since zach was in his prime...burnetts much better than anyone else we've had also...by a long shot

Yes, Dansby is a good player and has played well for us at times, but he has NOT lived up to the $9M/yr contract he was given and has not become an elite gamechanging LB many thought he would become when he came here (i said his contract was too big the moment he signed it_. His play is not as good as Thomas' when he was here, nor does it measure up against the other great LBs currently in the league, yet his cap hit this year is the 2nd highest among all NFL LBs. He needs to step it up this year and let his play do the talking.

 

[ckparrothead]

If Joe pa didn't get a 3rd strike why should ocho get get a 3rd strike? The 3rd strike idea is the whole problem. players these days think they can go out and act like morons all the time because they know it will be a slap on the hand waiting for them. Marshall is the perfect example, the guy just don't know when to quit. Now he is off to the bears and he gets 2 more chances to act a fool. I applaud Philbin or whomever made the call to dump him.

This is like a Walter moment from The Big Lebowsky. Everything is not about Vietnam, man.

 

[Canadianfishfan]

Dansby should just do his damn job, and let the coach make team decisions. He's getting paid to make tackles, and if players ruled the roost, it's be like an insane asylum running amok.

Perhaps Dansby didn't watch HK at all. Perhaps he thought Chad was funny. But what he failed to see, is that Chad was writing his own ticket out of Davie.

If I could see it, perhaps he should've too.

 

[ckparrothead]

Just look how many times Rasheeda Wately changed her testimony on Marshall, and then through her attorney tried to extort money from him to go away. I am not saying Lozoda is doing this, what I am saying is people become predatory for money and a reality show fluzzy bears some looking into. Now I am no forensic expert but I am ruining a head butt that causes a 3inch gash would do other damage. I am still searching my post it just takes forever on my phone.

Well first off Rasheeda Watley has nothing to do with Evelyn Lozada and I think you know that. I think you know the "one b!tch be crazy so all b!tches be crazy" argument doesn't hold much water. I think you know that.

Second, Lozada has more money than Chad. He says so all the time. He talks about her giving him his allowance and whatnot. She's richer than he is.

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I meant up to this point Chad had no arrest. You are missing my point which is they should have let NFL Security concluded it's investigation. Those guys are very good at what they do and uncover so many facts that never make the public.

Stu Weinstein is just as good as they are and probably better connected, locally speaking. Dolphins had no obligation to wait for Roger Goodell to conduct an investigation.

 

[hoops]

Yes, Dansby is a good player and has played well for us at times, but he has NOT lived up to the $9M/yr contract he was given and has not become an elite gamechanging LB many thought he would become when he came here (i said his contract was too big the moment he signed it_. His play is not as good as Thomas' when he was here, nor does it measure up against the other great LBs currently in the league, yet his cap hit this year is the 2nd highest among all NFL LBs. He needs to step it up this year and let his play do the talking.

the only reason dansby chose miami is cause we ponied up money that the cards and no one else would match...if you get over the $9 mil per cause frankly you have to given that if you cut him you'd eat a TON of money he's a damn good nfl lb...has he played to that number since he came no but has he been an eye sore just collecting a check...hell no...there are very few nfl lbs that can run and cover the way karlos dasnby can and there's few also who have his instincts against the run...this move to a 43 where he won't have to take on and sift thru traffic so much but have clean runs to the ball should be a very good one for him...i expect a big year

and psu you are gonna ALWAYS overpay in free agency when you get involved with the big ticket guys that are available...and dansby was one of those guys

 

[AdamD13]

I'm listening to the interview.

First off for context, Dansby answered a bunch of tough questions about their performance Friday. He said they didn't execute, they need to work hard, etc. Rosenberg even pushed it and said it seemed like on Hard Knocks we have all these things to be optimistic about Garrard having a good camp, Chad Johnson, the team looking good in practice, then suddenly Garrard's injured, Chad Johnson's arrested and off the team, and they go out and suck in the preseason game. Karlos took it, said they need to do better. He never pointed out that it was meaningless preseason action, said that even if it's not a meaningful situation they need to play better and prove things to the fans.

On how much of a distraction it is for a football team that was already trying to get past Brandon Marshall being traded to Chicago...he made it clear he disagreed personally with the situation. He's upset. His belief is that a guy should get a 3rd strike, that the organization should have stood behind him just because it was so out of character for Chad to end up in this situation. He wasn't ranting. He wasn't saying anything bad about the people that made the decision. He disagreed and said it's his personal opinion.

And you know how he finished it? And I guarantee this doesn't make it into ANY of the media reports about it...

"But the organization felt a different way about the situation, and they probably have more information than we know, and so they had to do what they had to do."

Is that really insubordinate? Come on, fellas. I think there's room for being reasonable about this, even on a message board.

Actually, ESPN did a fair job in reporting it:

"I hate that we didn't stand behind him," Dansby told WMEN-AM on Monday. "I know the guys in the locker room would. But the organization felt a totally different way about the situation, and they probably had more information than we know. And they had to do what they had to do."

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