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Dead Money - $13.136M

You would like to avoid dead money, but you cant be afraid to cut or trade a player due to dead money.

Contract only gaurantees money not spot on team.
 
If a player doesn't fit with what the Head Coach is trying to create, then he should be cut. However, if a team has a sustained period where year after year large amounts are in the dead money cap, then we have a problem. It was very interesting that Bill Belichick had 19 players in his $13.6M, indicating his propensity to churn and burn the roster, whereas 49ers had zero dead money. Totally different approaches.
I don't know how we have fared over a longer period, but the fact remains that if we hadn't incurred the $13.136M in dead money this year, we would be in a position to recruit 2 - 3 top players and hopefully be more competitive.
If we are down near the bottom in dead money over a sustained period, then it will come to the owner's attention. As such, the ranking and amount are KPIs (key performance indicator) of the GM's performance.
 
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there's no reason miami should be "backloading" contracts on players...i can see dead money on b marsh cause of the contract we signed him to and us thinking that he would still be here now and probably going forward when we traded for him and gave him that huge extension and i guess i can see where bell and carey could have some dead money although i don't know why we didn't front load their contracts to avoid just this thing...seems like salary cap 101 to me...

i would be interested in knowing where we shake out relative to the rest of the league in dead money though...
 
there's no reason miami should be "backloading" contracts on players...i can see dead money on b marsh cause of the contract we signed him to and us thinking that he would still be here now and probably going forward when we traded for him and gave him that huge extension and i guess i can see where bell and carey could have some dead money although i don't know why we didn't front load their contracts to avoid just this thing...seems like salary cap 101 to me...

i would be interested in knowing where we shake out relative to the rest of the league in dead money though...

See full details of each team's dead money - in response #25 on the previous page
 
See full details of each team's dead money - in response #25 on the previous page

good to know that outside of oakland who never handles money well and always overpays every one of the teams with more than us have been year in and year out contenders...my god we can't get anything right...
 
there's no reason miami should be "backloading" contracts on players...i can see dead money on b marsh cause of the contract we signed him to and us thinking that he would still be here now and probably going forward when we traded for him and gave him that huge extension and i guess i can see where bell and carey could have some dead money although i don't know why we didn't front load their contracts to avoid just this thing...seems like salary cap 101 to me...

i would be interested in knowing where we shake out relative to the rest of the league in dead money though...

You can either front load a bonus or you can spread it out over the years. Almost every single team doesn't front load contracts because you can't. You are running against the limit almost all the time.
 
I'm a big Wilson fan so I've been following the seattle QB story a bit. Basically, they wanted to ditch Jackson, start Flynn and have Wilson as understudy. But Flynn has been so disappointing, Jackson got away more reps than planned and Wilson killed it in training to the point he leapfrogged Flynn in most people's opinion and is pushing Jackson to be the main guy going into training.

Wilson is the hardest working player in camp, totally commands the huddle and is impressing everyone with his maturity. Meanwhile, fingernails are being chewed over Flynn.

That summary is taken from my reading of a good few reports, forums and pundits, but clearly it's early days.

I'm a Wilson fan, too, but I haven't been following the Seahags too closely because I thought he'd be the third QB simply because he's a rookie. :3w:

That Flynn hasn't been able to take the starting job away from Jackson and a rookie says that he is what he is: a sixth round QB who had 2 good games with a very talented offense subbing for the starter. A lot of Bills fans were agitating for the Bills to sign Flynn, but all I could think of was Rob Johnson. Well, at least the Seahags didn't trade a first and a fourth for Flynn.
 
You can either front load a bonus or you can spread it out over the years. Almost every single team doesn't front load contracts because you can't. You are running against the limit almost all the time.

i'm not buying that can't cause your almost always up against the cap stuff...
 
$13 mill well spent. Had to open the windows and let the STINK out. Getting rid of everyone of those players was a must. Swallow the pill, take the hit, anyway you want to word it they had to do it.
 
i'm not buying that can't cause your almost always up against the cap stuff...

Well, then... too bad? I'm not sure what else to say there. It's the fact of the matter. Miami was unable to front load any of those contracts simply because of the cap hell Miami was under before Ireland and Parcells got here. I know this is the case with a lot of teams (Redskins, Jets, Raiders, Bills).

This is the first year of the rebuilding process. Look at teams that have brought in new headcoaches/gms and look at their turnover. You have to spend money to make money in business, and this is no different. Marshall wasn't a fit? Have to get rid of him. 5.5 million against the cap due to dead money. Carey is too injured and overweight to make a difference? Sorry! Out the door. Boom. Expensive hit to the dead money, but hey it allows us to fill that roster spot (and salary savings) with another player who may actually contribute, moreso down the road.

It's incredibly short sighted to say WE SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS SITUATION OH MY GOD WHAT THE HELL because as it's been stated over and over we are in a transition. We may want immediate turn around but that simply isn't the case. Look at the facts. Ireland has been signing players to very cap friendly 2-3 year deals. And, ironically enough, he's been catching some flak for it from fans. And now the same type of fan is complaining that we are in cap hell.

Damned if ya do, damned if you don't...
 
CKparrothead explained that all teams have dead cap money, so I was curious to see if we are well or poorly managed compared with the other teams. I looked up every team's current cap deadmoney and the results are quite interesting. We are 4th worst at 13.136M.
Indianapolis is worst at $37.25M (includes Manning $10.4M, Brackett $7.2M, D Clark $5.58M). Oakland Raiders are 2nd worst at $20.25M (Wimbley $6.5M, Routt $5M, Boss $4.25M). New England just beat us on $13.601M (19 players led by Bodden $3m, T Warren $2.75M). It is clear that some teams use it a lot more than others.
Best result was San Francisco with no dead cap money. (Sorry CK only 31/32 teams had deadcap money. You were almost right)

Full list:
Arizona......$3.05M, Atlanta.....$2.2M, Baltimore......$5.5M, Buffalo.....$3.741M, Carolina.....$2.508M, Cincinatti.....$0.459M, Chicago.....$1.832M, Cleveland.....$1M, Dallas.....$5.537M, Denver.....$1.2M, Detroit.....$0.328M, Green Bay.....$0.068M, Houston.....$10.067M, Indianapolis.....$37.25M, Jacksonville.....$5.587M, Kansas City.....$1.6M, Minnesota.....$6.915M, New England.....$13.601M, New Orleans.....$0.025M, New York Giants.....$2.41M, New York Jets.....$2.236M, Oakland.....$20.25M, Philadelphia.....$4.926M, Pittsburgh.....$6.131M, San Diego.....$9.428M, San Francisco.....$0, Seattle.....$1M, SLouis.....$2.298M Tampa Bay.....$2.4M, Tennessee.....$1.333M, Washington.....$2.622M

Great research and reference points. Apparently nobody wants to respond to it directly because it ruins the party hat notion that Ireland is doing a splendid job, or merely a normal job, which was the hilariously convenient theme in the post immediately preceding yours, the one that compared to New England only, and used an inflated number for the Patriots to boot.

In taking a quick look at that list, the mean appears to be roughly $2.5 million. We are beyond $13 million. Only 5 other teams exceed $7 million.

I'll take solace that we may abuse dead money but we make up for it with a lively stadium.
 
Well, then... too bad? I'm not sure what else to say there. It's the fact of the matter. Miami was unable to front load any of those contracts simply because of the cap hell Miami was under before Ireland and Parcells got here. I know this is the case with a lot of teams (Redskins, Jets, Raiders, Bills).

This is the first year of the rebuilding process. Look at teams that have brought in new headcoaches/gms and look at their turnover. You have to spend money to make money in business, and this is no different. Marshall wasn't a fit? Have to get rid of him. 5.5 million against the cap due to dead money. Carey is too injured and overweight to make a difference? Sorry! Out the door. Boom. Expensive hit to the dead money, but hey it allows us to fill that roster spot (and salary savings) with another player who may actually contribute, moreso down the road.

It's incredibly short sighted to say WE SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS SITUATION OH MY GOD WHAT THE HELL because as it's been stated over and over we are in a transition. We may want immediate turn around but that simply isn't the case. Look at the facts. Ireland has been signing players to very cap friendly 2-3 year deals. And, ironically enough, he's been catching some flak for it from fans. And now the same type of fan is complaining that we are in cap hell.

Damned if ya do, damned if you don't...

this is year 5 of a rebuild...don't let anyone tell you any different...
 
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The real reason Matt Flynn wasn't signed in the off season imo...salary cap mismanagement.
it wouldnt have anything to do with the fact that Flynn was the most overrated free agent and hasnt proven anything in the league.
 
this is year 5 of a rebuild...don't let anyone tell you any different...

Except that the Sparano "building" blew up. It's now Philbin's turn to see if he can turn this ship around. Yeah, we have the same GM, but practically a completely new coaching staff. It's a new plan with a new coach in town.
 
this is year 5 of a rebuild...don't let anyone tell you any different...

You can't change offensive philosophies and pretend like it isn't the first year of a rebuild. This is year one of the new rebuild. Again, it's almost impossible to blame Ireland for what happened with Carey. He was fantastic when he was re-signed, and Ireland even got him to take a paycut to stay on the team. You can't hold him accountable for the injury history. The Marshall trade... that's one Ireland. He thought Marshall's issues were a one time thing and that he would change. Wrong. So we are dealing with the repercussions.
 
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