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i thought about donating but it is alot of money...i would do 25 bucks........also i agree with the band thing...i buy the cd's of the bands i really like ...like bad religion
Muck said:It's not about what's free and what's not free. It's about supporting something important to you. I download music like the next guy. But if I like a band, I go out and buy their CD to support them. It's just the principle of it. Doesn't make me better or worse than anyone else. Just something I like to do. As for this board, I give hundreds of dollars and many hours of my time. Last year I lost my job. But I donated as much as I could (after all, this site kept me sane. :rofl: ). Just something I like to support. :)
Not true. This site cost next to nothing when Gram and A.J. started it. It was very, very small. Now it's not small anymore. And it ain't cheap. People complain when the site is slow. They complain when the site goes down. Well, keeping the site fast and stable costs a lot of money. Two years ago, the site nearly shut down. That's when we finally starting accepting Premium Members.
Question: Why do people automatically feel like we're going to ban them from the site, and then throw down that ultimatum?? Why get hostile like that?? We're not forcing anybody to pay for anything. Believe me, it KILLS us to have to ask for money. And the goal is to make the site pay for itself (without any member having to give a dime). And we've made great progress towards that. But we're not there yet. We're just a few young guys running a site. Most of whom are college students. So you can understand what the cash flow is like.
ESPN, the Herald, etc. has paid employees. They're in business to make a profit. We gladly do this for free and will never make a profit. That never has been and never will be our goal. We do not and will not profit from our membership or this site. Premium Members know this, as they are privy to our bottom line. We just want the site to remain on the net in an enjoyable state.
Andrew was about 14 when he started this site. Can't knock them for not forseeing his little site becoming the biggest out there.
If you want to give $1, great. There's a donation button at the top of the screen (well, there was. :smackhead In the meantime, use xiidaen's link). We appreciate ANYTHING we receive. And we'll put an award for donating (a star) under your screenname. So it will be seen and everyone will know you donated.
Again, the site will always remain free to all. And we're working towards creating a self-sustaining entity. Right now, we just need a little help.
Thank you to all who have donated and to all who visit this great site. We appreciate you all. :)
yes they do.WharfRat said::rolleyes2:
So... in other words.... BillsZone solicits the help of the members also?
Surferosa said:[disclaimer]I know this sentiment has been reitterated by 954 and others, but this thread really rubbed me the wrong way[/disclaimer].
Gram,
In the past, Ive been firmly in your corner and supported your "crusades" to make this board a better place. However, the tone of the posts in this thread are quite frankly tactless and offensive. You have no right to lambast others for not paying membership. Its obnoxious and unbecoming of patrons of this site.
87, please try and be a bit more persuasive and a bit less argumentative in future posts on this subject. I know youre taking this whole episode quite seriously, but there are better ways to handle situations such as these.
Muck AJ and others - I appreciate your candor (as always) dealing with site issues with the utmost dignity. :)
Finfan80 said:Cool, I'll def pitch in something. Have to admit I did not know how this board was financed, who started it, or anything else...but ALSO have to say, I had never heard of premium membership or what the benefits were. $85 is a little steep for a membership, I wholly agree with those who said lowering the cost to $25 would being lots of members and greatly increase the amount raised. Maybe some kind of advertising of Premium Membership and what you get with it would be cool, too. I def want to keep the site vibrant and running and in the black, I'm grateful to the guys who started the site and put lots of time and energy into running it, and I feel strongly that we should all pitch in and contribute.
WharfRat said:CO84 and I had this discussion already, he and I have had such discussions before, and have always come to an understanding. I'm sure he's of the same mind I am... we're not angry with each other, just debating. Calling me (or anyone else) out for having that discussion is a little presumptuous on your part, don't you think?
ChambersOwnz84 said:That's basically how I look at it. It's nothing personal, ya know what I'm saying? I wasn't going to respond to this post originally, but the tones of some of you(not to call out or offend anybody) were what got my attention, but it's all good. I'm probably gonna donate some $ at the end of this week or next and I'll pitch in every now or then. Like I said, it wasn't the money that got to me really, it was just the original tone of the post, like 954 said.
Dolfan954 said::roflmao:
Between you, CW, and Clump, I'm almost starting to not hate Bills fans anymore...or not. :barf: