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Dolphins coaches asked Incognito to toughen up Martin, sources say

1. This is an Omar Story...be careful
2. IF it is true, I do not think it is that bad. They were asking for a vet to help improve a player.
3. STILL, at the end of the day, Joe Philbin does not survive this. Too much of a political **** storm.

I do think that if the money quote in the headline is 100% accurate, Joe's in big trouble.

That said, this is just the first salvo being fired by Richie Incognito. And there is more to come.
 
i don't see how asking a player to toughen up another guy that needs it is over the top...i'm sure they didn't tell cog to use racial slurs...but i bet they told him to get in is ass and light a fire

nothing wrong with that either...i guarantee you egnew heard the same kind of message after last season...difference is he responded the right way and at least validates a spot on the 53 right now...

i'm sure the staff would think that martin would show some back bone and maybe bite back but instead he saves stuff for 6 months and goes awaol in the middle of a game week...he jobbed his teammates the fan base and the front office

he shouldn't be paid a dime
 
I said it before and I'll say it again, if Philbin and staff knew about this asked Richie to toughin him up than ross needs to fire everyone
 
This is exactly what I was alluding to in the other thread where I said we now have some context to the voicemail messages. They weren't playful provocative messages. I don't think they were derived from hate. They were left in response to Martin missing practice and this was Ritchie trying to be a leader in his own round about dumb way.

A normal person might have said something like: WTF, where the hell are you dude? This is your first year starting left tackle, we ****ing need to get this **** down. Get your fat ass in here!!!

Translated to Ritchie speak: I see you on twitter you half N------. I'm gonna **** down your ****ing throat for ****ing this up.
 
If this is true the team has a perfect scapegoat. Give them Turners head on a platter for ordering the code red.
Richie pleads just following orders and is reinstated. Martin follows Ricky's advice and goes to Tibet to find his inner peace.
 
This is totally media driven, they just took something normal and slapped the word bully on it and ran with the story... They got lucky one of the messages had the N word in it and its Racial bullying... That will sell like crazy! whats embarrassing is the amount of people falling for it...
 
This is totally media driven, they just took something normal and slapped the word bully on it and ran with the story... They got lucky one of the messages had the N word in it and its Racial bullying... That will sell like crazy! whats embarrassing is the amount of people falling for it...

You mean like a lot of posters here?

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1. This is an Omar Story...be careful
2. IF it is true, I do not think it is that bad. They were asking for a vet to help improve a player.
3. STILL, at the end of the day, Joe Philbin does not survive this. Too much of a political **** storm.

Over in no time. Book it.
 
Ross has to do something major or he will be the laughing stock of the nfl. Stand back it will get bad real fast no trust in his management team .This team has been on auto pilot for 5 weeks and its starting to show with 4 out of 5 losses and now this o line been a mess now we know why and nothing has been done . Wonder why Clabo was so bad nothing said sacks 1 after another Starting to see why this o line went to pot no organization no coaching no wonder why we didnt get other o line help coaches new of problems and thought it would just blow over. Yea right blow up not over!
 
i don't see how asking a player to toughen up another guy that needs it is over the top...i'm sure they didn't tell cog to use racial slurs...but i bet they told him to get in is ass and light a fire

nothing wrong with that either...i guarantee you egnew heard the same kind of message after last season...difference is he responded the right way and at least validates a spot on the 53 right now...

i'm sure the staff would think that martin would show some back bone and maybe bite back but instead he saves stuff for 6 months and goes awaol in the middle of a game week...he jobbed his teammates the fan base and the front office

he shouldn't be paid a dime

Because the guy they asked to do the toughening up has a long standing, well-known history for being a psycho, is why.
 
Ross has to do something major or he will be the laughing stock of the nfl. Stand back it will get bad real fast no trust in his management team .This team has been on auto pilot for 5 weeks and its starting to show with 4 out of 5 losses and now this o line been a mess now we know why and nothing has been done . Wonder why Clabo was so bad nothing said sacks 1 after another Starting to see why this o line went to pot no organization no coaching no wonder why we didnt get other o line help coaches new of problems and thought it would just blow over. Yea right blow up not over!

God your English makes me want to puke.
 
It's obvious you want a complete overhaul. And aren't a believer of this team in its current state.

After all the crap that has gone on in the past month, how could you be? I supported Ireland longer than most people... I got in heated conversations with several posters defending Ireland as decent talent evaluator, and that we might end up replacing him only to find the next guy is worse... Well, I was proven wrong. I don't know if he is just snakebitten, or truly rotten at his job. It doesn't matter anymore. Everything he touches turns to ****. I was on board with a lot of the moves he made in the offseason, but guess what, they didn't bear out. That's all that matters, results. And it all culminated in this ****storm. He failed, that's all, time to move on.

Philbin, likewise, has proven not to be up to par. We expect better leadership. Even though he is still green, and some learning curve should be extended, he has the poor luck to have been hired by a GM on his last legs, and when he walks the plank, he is tied to him sinking down into the deep, dark abyss.

After this PR maelstrom, Ross has no choice but to fumigate Davie...
 
If this is true the team has a perfect scapegoat. Give them Turners head on a platter for ordering the code red.
Richie pleads just following orders and is reinstated. Martin follows Ricky's advice and goes to Tibet to find his inner peace.

Except that everyone will assume -- thanks to Hard Knocks -- that just as Turner asked for permission from Philbin before trying to toughen up John Jerry, he asked for permission from Philbin before getting Incognito to toughen up Martin.
 
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