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Dolphins have 'expectation of mastery' for quarterback Tua Tagovailoa

Yes indeed, you are very familiar and comfortable taking an L from our engagements.

Chad may have been foolish enough to meet you on your level but I know something that he doesn't.

It's that you never argue with stupid people because they drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience...

Thank goodness for this brain food (GOAT cheese and spinach omelet).

Get a grip, junior. Every time you and I tangle, you figuratively end up bleeding half to death before you even know you've been cut.

By all means, though, keep it up with the goat cheese references. They're hilarious...to high school freshmen.
 
Get a grip, junior. Every time you and I tangle, you figuratively end up bleeding half to death before you even know you've been cut.

By all means, though, keep it up with the goat cheese references. They're hilarious...to high school freshmen.
The fact that you hate them is all we need to know...
 
Who is “them”? And who is “we?” Do you have a squirrel in your pocket?

Do the authorities need to be called?
I've got my Life Alert, good thing too with my heavy GOAT cheese diet.

High cholesterol and such...
 
I remember Andy Reid’s first 5 seasons in KC. Missed the playoffs once and won 1 playoff game. I bet KC wished they’d had fired him.

I remember Jimmy Johnson’s first 3 seasons in Dallas. A losing record, no playoff appearances. I bet Dallas wished they’d had fired him.

I remember Sean Payton’s first 3 seasons in New Orleans. 2 losing seasons and one playoff win. I bet the Saints look back and think it was a mistake to keep him.


I remember Dan Reeves first 3 seasons. 1 losing season, one playoff appearance, no postseason wins. Broncos fans wanted him gone. So stupid to keep him.

I remember Bill Belichick’s first 5 seasons as a head coach. 4 losing seasons.. 1 playoff win. Browns fans are sick that he was fired
Just saw this.. its like people don't understand so we fire ANOTHER coach.. then guess what. its start from scratch so in 3 years when we are back to where we are now... this fan base.. fire the coach, then shocker guess what here we go again

we have fired so many coachs over short periods and it ends with same cycle, and yet people don't get it.
helllll half way through last season eagles fans wanted Sirianni gone, media sayin he has to go... welll bet those eagles fans are sooo pissed he didn't get fired now.

the only thing Miami needs gone is Grier, he is the one consistent in a decade of suffering.. meaning its hard to argue that he isnt the root cause of allot if not all Miami problems
 
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Just saw this.. its like people don't understand so we fire ANOTHER coach.. then guess what. its start from scratch so in 3 years when we are back to where we are now... this fan base.. fire the coach, then shocker guess what here we go again

we have fired so many coachs over short periods and it ends with same cycle, and yet people don't get it.
helllll half way through last season eagles fans wanted Sirianni gone, media sayin he has to go... welll bet those eagles fans are sooo pissed he didn't get fired now.

the only thing Miami needs gone is Grier, he is the one consistent in a decade of suffering.. meaning its hard to argue that he isnt the root cause of allot if not all Miami problems
Oh Yeah! Thanks. Now I remember...

We have had exactly 1 HC who lasted more than three years, Dave Wannstedt who stayed four years, (and the fans didn't like his conservative approach very much) since Don Shula retired in 1995. Mike McDaniel will be the 2nd.

The new HC Waltz! It never works for any team that is rebuilding. By the time they get the players they want,.... Seeyaa. And the next guy has all of the wrong guys for his systems.

The "Cleveland Shuffle".

George Siefert made it work but he had a pretty good roster.
 
I remember Andy Reid’s first 5 seasons in KC. Missed the playoffs once and won 1 playoff game. I bet KC wished they’d had fired him.

I remember Jimmy Johnson’s first 3 seasons in Dallas. A losing record, no playoff appearances. I bet Dallas wished they’d had fired him.

I remember Sean Payton’s first 3 seasons in New Orleans. 2 losing seasons and one playoff win. I bet the Saints look back and think it was a mistake to keep him.


I remember Dan Reeves first 3 seasons. 1 losing season, one playoff appearance, no postseason wins. Broncos fans wanted him gone. So stupid to keep him.

I remember Bill Belichick’s first 5 seasons as a head coach. 4 losing seasons.. 1 playoff win. Browns fans are sick that he was fired.
I've been watching/following the NFL for 30+ years now, and the more I watch, the more I realize that talent trumps coaching. Coaching is no doubt very important, but in recent years we've seen some of the best coaches fail because they didnt have elite talent (Bill Belichick, Sean Payton, Pete Carroll, Jim Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin, Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan come to mind). We've also seen lower tier coaches have a lot of success because they have elite talent (Zac Taylor, Dan Quinn, Kevin Oconnell, etc). Point is that turning over coaches every 3-4 years isnt nearly as impactful as acquiring taleneted players. I am not advocating for or against McDaniel, but I dont believe replacing him is going to make much of a difference. We still have 9-10 win talent on our roster. Which isnt good enough.
 
I've been watching/following the NFL for 30+ years now, and the more I watch, the more I realize that talent trumps coaching. Coaching is no doubt very important, but in recent years we've seen some of the best coaches fail because they didnt have elite talent (Bill Belichick, Sean Payton, Pete Carroll, Jim Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin, Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan come to mind). We've also seen lower tier coaches have a lot of success because they have elite talent (Zac Taylor, Dan Quinn, Kevin Oconnell, etc). Point is that turning over coaches every 3-4 years isnt nearly as impactful as acquiring taleneted players. I am not advocating for or against McDaniel, but I dont believe replacing him is going to make much of a difference. We still have 9-10 win talent on our roster. Which isnt good enough.
I’m not completely on the opposite spectrum here, but I think coaching is nearly, if not the same, as important as players. We’ve seen guys go from All Pros with a great HC to average on other teams with average HC’s. That’s not to say a great HC can win it all with scrubs, but I think great HC’s can win with players other HC’s may not.

Bottom line though, firing a HC every 3-4 years is just dumb, IMO. There are certainly reasons to fire a HC quickly, but when you have the success that McD has had, in his first 3 years as a HC, it’s way too early to give up on him.

The problem is this instant gratification attitude by fans nowadays. Continuity is a huge part of success. Sure, we see some HC’s come in a win it all very quickly, but to your point, the team already had great players and these players fit the HC’s scheme really well. McD has his warts, all HC’s do, but an objective look at what he’s accomplished in a short period needs to be considered. Experience isn’t going to hurt him. Allowing him to get more than 3 years of experience under his belt, 3 drafts under his belt (and also giving it time to see what he can do without an inordinate amount of injuries), should be considered.
 
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