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The second half of the season is more important regardless, if we are just playing the if's game. Having him play well and then losing him is still the worst case scenario IMO. It would be foolish to expect a full season out of him at this point. At the very least I'd hedge my bets and bring him back when the football games tend to matter more.

If were out of it through 10 games, its because Tua is hurt long term at which point the whole discussion is irrelevant.

The odds of JP getting through 17 games is really low. Not sure why so many are in a rush to see his career come to an official end.

I'd like to see him get through half a season, get a one year deal and see if he can prove himself all over again.
I don't understand that logic...the 2nd half of the season being more important. A win in week 1 counts just as much as a win in week 18 (given same level of opponent)...if you got into the playoffs because of having 1 more win than the next guy, that week 1 win looks pretty crucial, if further removed from memory.
 
Phillips worked hard to be an opening day starter last year. Miami may have to slow it down with him and work him in slowly.
 
Jaelan Phillips is a good example of what happens when you try to play through pain and injury.

Guy should have never been on the field
You are joking right? Every NFL player has to play though pain and injury. That's the nature of the sport. Sheesh, we had to do that in midget football...
 
Yet, by the time we get through 10 games, there’s always a chance that there no “important” games remaining. Then you’ve potentially sat a pending free agent for what could 10 of the final 17 games for which he was under contract.

Seems like a poor strategy.
Ludicrous idea
 
I sure hope not 😭

But yeah, I am sick of the injuries derailing seasons. Hopefully I am allowed to be concerned about things once in a while. Doesn't mean I want a Tuanon type debate over every ****ing opinion.
Post terrible ideas, and people are going to debate. It's too easy Trogman.
 
Post terrible ideas, and people are going to debate. It's too easy Trogman.
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I can see brooks there and at least they haven’t overrated him. I’m not impressed with Dodson at all.
Played one good game after he was signed and was bad after. Plays very skinny.
He’s our third backer I think, don’t see him getting reps over Wilkie G
 
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills reading this thread. We have people acting like we’re the Chiefs or Eagles and we should rest players for the playoffs. Not that the Chiefs or Eagles even do that.
I don’t want him to sit out a certain portion of the season, I just want him to skip playing on certain fields like Metlife

I think the risk of reinjury is much higher on that god awful turf so I’d rather him avoid it unless it’s a playoff game or playoff clinching scenario. If it’s a random game in September than I’d be ok with him sitting out of our Metlife visit
 
I don’t want him to sit out a certain portion of the season, I just want him to skip playing on certain fields like Metlife

I think the risk of reinjury is much higher on that god awful turf so I’d rather him avoid it unless it’s a playoff game or playoff clinching scenario. If it’s a random game in September than I’d be ok with him sitting out of our Metlife visit

I don't believe it was your post being referenced.

Miami plays in MetLife on 12/7.

Here's a list of just season-ending leg injuries occurring at MetLife from 2020-23.

  • 2023 - Jaelan Phillips (Achilles)
  • 2023 - Aaron Rodgers (Achilles)
  • 2022 - Darrian Beavers (ACL)
  • 2022 - Marcu McKethan (ACL)
  • 2022 - Sterling Shepard (ACL)
  • 2022 - Wan’Dale Robinson (ACL)
  • 2022 - Aaron Robinson (ACL)
  • 2021 - Blake Martinez (ACL)
  • 2021 - Jabrill Peppers (ACL)
  • 2021 -Levine Toilolo (ACL)
  • 2021 - Shane Lemieux (patellar tendon)
  • 2021 - Rodarius Williams (ACL)
  • 2021 - T.J. Brunson (ACL)
  • 2021 - Jonathan Harrison (Achilles)
  • 2021 - Matt Peart (ACL)
  • 2020 - Nick Bosa (ACL)
  • 2020 - Solomon Thomas (ACL)
I don't have a list from 2024...and I'm not a doctor, but that seems like a lot.
 
PFF bounce back player for each team:

MIAMI DOLPHINS: WR JAYLEN WADDLE

Miami’s instability at quarterback appeared to impact Jaylen Waddle’s production more than any other offensive weapon. He recorded at least 99 receiving yards in three games — all with Tua Tagovailoa under center — but failed to top 57 yards in any other contest. His 71.5 receiving grade was the lowest of his career by a significant margin. As is often the case with the Dolphins, Waddle’s 2025 outlook is closely tied to Tagovailoa’s health. If the quarterback stays on the field, a bounce-back season should be well within reach for Waddle.

 
Not sure who’s into fantasy but they had a good breakdown on Tyreek (#15), vs Terry McLaurin (#16)


Today’s matchup spotlights Miami Dolphins wide receiver Tyreek Hill and Washington Commanderswide receiver Terry McLaurin as we evaluate the top options at the start of Round 3 in fantasy drafts.

TYREEK HILL (WR15) VS. TERRY MCLAURIN (WR16)

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Hill is coming off a season that fell short of expectations after being drafted as a top-three wide receiver last offseason, following back-to-back WR2 finishes in 2022 and 2023. Inconsistent quarterback play and recovery from offseason wrist surgery may have contributed to his dip in production. Still, early 2025 draft trends show drafters remain optimistic about a rebound.

McLaurin delivered the best fantasy season of his NFL career, buoyed by a significant upgrade at quarterback. He recorded four top-10 weekly finishes at the position in 2024. Despite finishing as a top-12 fantasy wideout, McLaurin is currently being drafted outside the top 15 at the position, suggesting expectations of regression heading into 2025.

INVOLVEMENT IN THE OFFENSE

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Hill saw 121 targets in 2024, his fewest since joining the Dolphins and his lowest mark overall since 2019, when he missed multiple games due to injury. While it was also his lowest target rate in the past five seasons, it still exceeded any of McLaurin’s rates over that same span, including 2024. Even entering his 10th NFL season at age 31 and coming off a down year, Hill remains a near lock for an elite target share.

McLaurin’s target rate has never matched Hill’s, but he did outpace him in total targets last season, which helped fuel his most efficient and productive fantasy campaign to date. Still, some regression should be expected in 2025 as McLaurin turns 30 and faces increased target competition in Washington’s offense.

PRODUCTION AND PERFORMANCE

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Hill’s 3.82 yards per route run in the 2023 regular season trailed only 2008 Steve Smith for the best mark in the PFF era, making some regression in 2024 all but inevitable. However, his drop to 1.75 yards per route run wasn’t just a dip, it marked the lowest figure of his career and the first time he’s failed to top 2.00 in that category.

McLaurin has exceeded 2.00 yards per route run just twice in his career, but he was more efficient than Hill in 2024. His biggest leap in fantasy production came via the end zone: McLaurin scored 13 total touchdowns — second-most in the league — nearly doubling his previous career high of seven set in 2019.

HIGH-VALUE TARGET INVOLVEMENT

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Hill remained heavily involved in the red zone in 2024, despite posting just six receiving touchdowns, his lowest total since his rookie year. Five of those scores came on red-zone targets, but he had to share opportunities with teammates like Jonnu Smith and De'Von Achane, who recorded seven and six red-zone touchdowns, respectively.

McLaurin’s red zone efficiency was exceptional. Despite trailing Zach Ertz in both red-zone targets and target rate, McLaurin caught 13 of his 14 red-zone targets for 10 touchdowns — a rate that is almost certain to regress in 2025.

Still, if Washington’s offense maintains its red zone volume — it tied for second in the NFL with 210 red-zone plays last season — McLaurin should continue to see valuable scoring opportunities.

TEAM PASSING/QUARTERBACK SITUATION

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Tua Tagovailoa missed five games in 2024. But even when he was healthy, he posted his lowest passing grade since 2021. The Dolphins never seemed to recover from their 2–6 start, a slump that dragged down nearly all of Miami’s fantasy production. A reset for Tagovailoa and his top two receivers is critical if the offense is to rebound in 2025.

Jayden Daniels and the Commanders were on an entirely different trajectory. Daniels led Washington to an NFC championship appearance and earned Offensive Rookie of the Year honors in the process. Nearly every aspect of his rookie season helped create a strong offensive environment for McLaurin, one that the Commanders will hope to replicate in 2025.

POTENTIAL 2025 TARGET COMPETITION

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The emergence of Jonnu Smith as a high-volume target in 2024 was unexpected and played a role in the reduced production from both Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle. Looking ahead to 2025, Hill could once again face competition from two fronts: Smith remaining a key part of the Dolphins’ offense and Waddle returning to form as a dynamic playmaker still in his prime.

In Washington, Zach Ertz was already a go-to red zone option last season and figures to retain that role in 2025. However, the addition of Deebo Samuel introduces a new layer of target competition. Over the past three seasons, Samuel ranks third among all wide receivers and tight ends with 58 red-zone touches (receptions and carries combined), a trend that could further eat into McLaurin’s scoring opportunities and reinforce expectations of touchdown regression in 2025.
 
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