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This isnt' even an argument. Shula's the Winningest, Best, Whatever you wanna call it. What do you call the person who won the most games EVER?? -THE BEST! Period. I dont care during what time period you were growing up or what team first gave you a taste of Dr. Porkenheimer's Boner Juice. Shula was the greatest coach ever.
 
BringBackShula said:
This isnt' even an argument. Shula's the Winningest, Best, Whatever you wanna call it. What do you call the person who won the most games EVER?? -THE BEST! Period. I dont care during what time period you were growing up or what team first gave you a taste of Dr. Porkenheimer's Boner Juice. Shula was the greatest coach ever.
You can drop your Pom Poms now.... Just cause he won the most games ever doen't make him the BEST coach ever. Many coaches would have won just as many had they stayed in coaching as long as Shula did. He was lucky to have the loyalty of Joe Robbie for so many years. Look at how many coaches in today's day and age are fired simply for not getting to the SB often enough, even though they win on a consistent basis. Longevity does not equate to BEST EVER!
 
BringBackShula said:
This isnt' even an argument. Shula's the Winningest, Best, Whatever you wanna call it. What do you call the person who won the most games EVER?? -THE BEST! Period. I dont care during what time period you were growing up or what team first gave you a taste of Dr. Porkenheimer's Boner Juice. Shula was the greatest coach ever.

the winningest coach...well you need to take a closer look. he played much longer than BB....he was in the NFL much longer than a lot of coaches these days and in his days. that of course could translate to more chances to win games.

Shula was a great head coach....but not the best IMO.

as much as i hate the Pats...i got to go with BB as the best coach...

GO FINS!!!
 
poppy said:
2 losing seasons in 33 years as a coach. Please name one coach in the history of the NFL who can match this. Parcells? NO. Walsh? NO Bellicheck? NO. Gibbs? NO.

What coach has been in the most Superbowls? Shula, 6. 1st Coach to take 2 different franchises to the big dance. Parcells being the second and only other.

The only Coach to lead his team through a season undefeated, perhaps the greatest coaching achievement in the history of the NFL, with 2 different quarterbacks.


Won in the 70's with one of the greatest ball control rushing attacks ever and won in the 80's with one of the greatest passing attacks in Nfl history.

I could go on and on. Bye the way, ask Bill Bellicheck what coach he most admired growing up. Answer: The DON.


To say he did squat because he didn't win another Championship after 73-74 is absurd and a reflection of a zero-sum all or nothing mentality of todays press and fans. Its just plain ignorant. :yell:

You got it.
 
Sal Lisitano said:
the winningest coach...well you need to take a closer look. he played much longer than BB....he was in the NFL much longer than a lot of coaches these days and in his days. that of course could translate to more chances to win games.

Shula was a great head coach....but not the best IMO.

as much as i hate the Pats...i got to go with BB as the best coach...

GO FINS!!!

Arrrrrgh this is frustrating. I admire BB's recent run. Its remarkable and he deserves all the credit in the world, but if we are going to judge BB fairly and as a whole, then we can't ignore his tenure in Cleveland. An abject failure!!!!

Shula may not have gotten as high as B.B.'s recent run (although a strong case can be made he would have and may have surpassed it had the WFL not come along and Arnsparger hadn't left to the Giants) but he never ever ever even came close to the lows of B.B.'s tenure in Cleveland. Doesn't that count for something? Or are we going to just ignore B.B.'s tenure in Cleveland?
 
dolfan4good said:
You can drop your Pom Poms now.... Just cause he won the most games ever doen't make him the BEST coach ever. Many coaches would have won just as many had they stayed in coaching as long as Shula did. He was lucky to have the loyalty of Joe Robbie for so many years. Look at how many coaches in today's day and age are fired simply for not getting to the SB often enough, even though they win on a consistent basis. Longevity does not equate to BEST EVER!


Averaging over 10 wins a year over a 33 year period is not something that should be minimized. Look at Landry, perhaps the only other Coach who had similiar longevity. He wasn't able to do this, yet some other poster here put him ahead of Shula. I just don't get it.
 
dolfan4good said:
You can drop your Pom Poms now.... Just cause he won the most games ever doen't make him the BEST coach ever. Many coaches would have won just as many had they stayed in coaching as long as Shula did. He was lucky to have the loyalty of Joe Robbie for so many years. Look at how many coaches in today's day and age are fired simply for not getting to the SB often enough, even though they win on a consistent basis. Longevity does not equate to BEST EVER!
Keep your pom poms and the knowledge that Shula was the best to coach.

Coaching doesn't equate to winning, "coaching" is getting the best out of your players, training, educating, and developing; and a man like Shula who coached through 4 different decades certainly got the best out of his players. Remember how many teams passed on Marino and how many people thought the Dolphins were crazy for drafting Griese. Shula is the epitome of coaching regardless how many times they won the SB, his tenure, and not just because of Joe Robbie, proves it. I've been a Finfan for over 32 years and remember the waves of disruption between Robbie and Shula so don't think it was a bed of roses all of the time. Shula won when no one expected he would, ala Woodstrock. Superbowls don't make great players or great coaches (remember a guy named Barry Switzer, he won a SB but he was a joke of a NFL coach). Don Shula is the best coach ever not because of his won-loss record, but because he was a true down & dirty COACH. BB is a what have you done for me lately coach, pissed on the Jets fell into his first SB because of a BS call in the Raiders playoff game. Change that call, change the history of BB. Let me know how great he is in another 25 years, then maybe you can mention him in the same breath as Shula.

Cheer for Shula, he is the best COACH!!!!!!!!!!
 
poppy said:
Averaging over 10 wins a year over a 33 year period is not something that should be minimized. Look at Landry, perhaps the only other Coach who had similiar longevity. He wasn't able to do this, yet some other poster here put him ahead of Shula. I just don't get it.

no he didn't. He posed the question what would've he done with Marino.
 
Don Shula=Miami Dolphins
 
Bill Belichek is great, and instills a great system. But in today's day and age there are 100 different coaches for everything from moving your pinky to pissing straight. We'll see how he does this year after losing a few coaches.

Don't underestimate Shula and don't forget how he was able to switch his coaching stance from predominately run to predominately pass unlike most of today's coaches who insist on one style, one way.
 
poppy said:
To say he did squat because he didn't win another Championship after 73-74 is absurd and a reflection of a zero-sum all or nothing mentality of todays press and fans. Its just plain ignorant. :yell:

Amen & glory hallejuah is all I can say to this ;)
 
guido13 said:
Bill Belichek is great, and instills a great system. But in today's day and age there are 100 different coaches for everything from moving your pinky to pissing straight. We'll see how he does this year after losing a few coaches.

Don't underestimate Shula and don't forget how he was able to switch his coaching stance from predominately run to predominately pass unlike most of today's coaches who insist on one style, one way.

Ala Wannfart.....:rolleyes:
 
Beachbum said:
Ala Wannfart.....:rolleyes:


You got it. Although we all will miss the Wanny sideline faces with the Hand through the hair and rubbing of the porno mustache. :)
 
Let's Compare Bb To Shula After 20-30 Years If He Lasts That Long
 
poppy said:
2 losing seasons in 33 years as a coach. Please name one coach in the history of the NFL who can match this. Parcells? NO. Walsh? NO Bellicheck? NO. Gibbs? NO.

What coach has been in the most Superbowls? Shula, 6. 1st Coach to take 2 different franchises to the big dance. Parcells being the second and only other.

The only Coach to lead his team through a season undefeated, perhaps the greatest coaching achievement in the history of the NFL, with 2 different quarterbacks.


Won in the 70's with one of the greatest ball control rushing attacks ever and won in the 80's with one of the greatest passing attacks in Nfl history.

I could go on and on. Bye the way, ask Bill Bellicheck what coach he most admired growing up. Answer: The DON.


To say he did squat because he didn't win another Championship after 73-74 is absurd and a reflection of a zero-sum all or nothing mentality of todays press and fans. Its just plain ignorant. :yell:

:thewave: :thewave: :thewave:


:allhail:

And he AVERAGED 11 wins/season....over 30+ years. :eek:
 
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