enough is enough with this

[NJ_Fin_Fan]

please shut it yourself first. I haven't seen a Ricky thread in a couple days....but thank YOU for starting another one.

I love the people whining about RW, but then they go and start a thread themselves which always turns into a 3-4 pager with the same arguments for/against his return. It's like saying:"My arm is sore when I press it here"...and then the person just continues to press and press and press in that same area.

My thoughts exactly. Thanks for saving me the time.

 

[GreenMonster]

sorry but I don't beleive you, do you have proof or are you in the organization? you have no idea what will happen nor do I

Unless Ricky Williams wants to be about -8.6million for the rest of his life he is coming back.. Whether he suits up for the Dolphins remains to be seen, but I defiantly think he will be back in the NFL.

 

[raving]

Ricky might come back.

Why wouldn't he? And Saban gonna take him if he does.

You are confused like so many Dolphin fans on this board. Saban does not care an iota about you and your football sensibilities. Why should he care about what a star such as Ricky did on Wanny's clock? Between Ricky and Wanny - Wanny is the loser -out on his disgraceful ear in the most humiliating fashion.

Saban knows this - With Ricky he's got nothing to lose. So he's a bust - lost too much weight or fails to make the return at all or simply flakes out in his locker room. So what?

On the other hand if he works out you got at least a three headed monster if not more to go out and clobber teams week in and week out. Ricky, Ronnie, Kay-Jay, Sammie, the kid from the Rams that Spielman wasted a 3rd rounder on last year.

By the way thanks for starting the thread!

 

[nick1]

Unless Ricky Williams wants to be about -8.6million for the rest of his life he is coming back.. Whether he suits up for the Dolphins remains to be seen, but I defiantly think he will be back in the NFL.

all I'm saying is that he will never be a Dolphin again

 

[GreenMonster]

Ricky is not coming back, it's all just talk created by Nick Saban saying that he is welcome back. In my opinion Saban just said that in order to get him back so that we could trade him. There are 2 reasons that it would not be smart for us to take him back 1. he is out of shape, he lost 20 pounds and he hasn't practiced since who knows when and 2. we would not be able to afford him before he quit he was making 3 million a year, if he came back he would be making the same amount of money he was

Trade Ricky.. Man I would love that but what team is gonna trade for a RB that is out of shape and lost 20 pounds and hasn't practiced since who knows then. If Ricky came back he would also be making the min. since we would force him to re-do his deal.

 

[bdmagnum]

all I'm saying is that he will never be a Dolphin again

You can't say "he will never be a Dolphin again" unless you yourself have proof or are you in the organization. Do you have proof? Are you in the organization?

 

[GreenMonster]

You can't say "he will never be a Dolphin again" unless you yourself have proof or are you in the organization. Do you have proof? Are you in the organization?

Good stuff:roflmao:

 

[BlueFin]

ricky william returning . it's not happening . geez we brought in 2 good rbs and if numbnuts did return he would'nt play for us because he has to serve a suspension and other crap . so its high time to stop this yak about weedhopper returning . i am moving on now i suggest everybody else to do the same. we have a better chane of dan returning than rw so lets put this behine us and traverse down the yellow brick road to happy destiny which is the best season possible.

so please stop this insanity
of weedhopper returning
i now return you to your normal daily routines.

How about we leave it too Nick Saban to fully evaluate this situation and decide if Ricky has value to this organization? It seems to me he has more information with which to work with, somehow I trust him on a much higher level than Wannstedt to make the right choice.

Seeing as how Nick Saban has repeatedly discussed this possibility, I see no reason that Dolphin fans should not discuss it as well.

 

[kizzaboo]

It's not off the Led Zeppelin record...when you play it backwards?

Nah, Napoleon:cooldude:

 

[chirkware]

Ah, the offseason...lol

 

[Schleprock]

all I'm saying is that he will never be a Dolphin again

seriously.....what part of trading Ricky williams DON'T you understand????????????

No...One...Will.....Give....ANYTHING!

 

[bakedmatt]

ricky william returning . it's not happening . geez we brought in 2 good rbs and if numbnuts did return he would'nt play for us because he has to serve a suspension and other crap . so its high time to stop this yak about weedhopper returning . i am moving on now i suggest everybody else to do the same. we have a better chane of dan returning than rw so lets put this behine us and traverse down the yellow brick road to happy destiny which is the best season possible.

so please stop this insanity
of weedhopper returning
i now return you to your normal daily routines.

i'm beginning to hope he comes back just so we can stop seeing these posts.

 

[yankeehillbilly]

can't afford him
he owes us $8.6 million, he works for peanuts, cost is irrelevent here.

actually, its not irrelevent. Perhaps the actual money is, but not the cap implications. If the Phins forgive a portion of Ricky's debt in return for Ricky playing, then the NFL would probably consider that portion "salary" and charge it to the Phins cap. So, if Ricky plays for the league minimum and in return gets 3million taken off his debt for every year he plays, then Ricky's cap number for this season would be. $3,540,000.

 

[Schleprock]

actually, its not irrelevent. Perhaps the actual money is, but not the cap implications. If the Phins forgive a portion of Ricky's debt in return for Ricky playing, then the NFL would probably consider that portion "salary" and charge it to the Phins cap. So, if Ricky plays for the league minimum and in return gets 3million taken off his debt for every year he plays, then Ricky's cap number for this season would be. $3,540,000.

I highly doubt that. His monetary implications of owing us $8.6mil have nothing to do with the salary cap. It has only been speculation on fans parts. Anyway, he "retired" so his cap number was already escalated into this years cap figure. A simple "you play for this and the other X disappears" is a matter outside the cap and personal between RW and the Dolphin organization. Especially considering the Dolphins went after what they ALREADY paid him. He simply gets to "keep" what he made (and has already spent), and he would not owe us anything but only gets a small salary.

 

[yankeehillbilly]

I highly doubt that. His monetary implications of owing us $8.6mil have nothing to do with the salary cap. Anyway, he "retired" so his cap number was already escalated into this years cap figure. A simple "you play for this and the other X disappears" is a matter outside the cap and personal between RW and the Dolphin organization. Especially considering the Dolphins went after what they ALREADY paid him. He simply gets to "keep" what he made (and has already spent), and he would not owe us anything but only gets a small salary.

Im afraid that's incorrect. Deals between teams and players outside the traditional "salary" are examined by the NFL for possible salary cap violations. Heck, one year the NFL investigated Dan Marino's salary just because Wayne gave Dan a stock tip which happened to make Dan some money. They determined that there was no foul due to the fact that Dan could just as easily have lost money, but had that not been the case, they would have charged Dan's profits to the Phins salary cap (and probably fined the Phins too).
If the Phins forgive some of Ricky's debt in return for Ricky playing, they are in essence paying Ricky that amount as salary, and Ricky is using the money to pay off a debt. It just so happens that the debt is with the Phins, but it could just as easily be a debt with a bank, or loan shark, or a personal friend.
edit: or his wackyweed dealer

As for money already being charged, there wasnt any money to "escalate" Ricky's contract had no signing bonus and since he didnt play, he didnt get the rolled over incentive bonuses that were written into his deal. (incentives earned from previous year were supposed to be added to his base salary)