Enough with all this "We Gave Fiedler 4 Years!" Crap...

[texasPHINSfan]

Nah the guy never improved. I was ok with the decision to give the guy a chance but I thought that one or one and a half seasons was enough and at that point you cut bate and move on. He simply NEVER improved substantially and that made him a bad choice to continue on with. So I feel entitled to complain and I definitely intend to do it!

yes but after the first year we were 11-5..... if you went 11-5 after going 9-7 the year before with MARINO, wouldn't be a little more optimistic on the guy? hindsight is 20/20. It probably wasn't a good idea to start him that long, but don't be bashing the guy right off the bat.

 

[ORANGE 13]

Feildler lovers / supporters are ok with never having a chance for the playoffs or in the playoffs. Get real Feilder fans. Anybody could have done what he did with the team we had the last four years. He will never take any team to the superbowl EVER! EVER! Is feeley the answer? Don't know, if he is not, then atleast we know and we get a good first round pick. If he is going to be the starter, then better he start now than later. Feilder, (he is a joke) and so are you if you think we are going anywhere with him.:fire:

 

[Dolphins12thMan]

Feildler lovers / supporters are ok with never having a chance for the playoffs or in the playoffs. Get real Feilder fans. Anybody could have done what he did with the team we had the last four years. He will never take any team to the superbowl EVER! EVER! Is feeley the answer? Don't know, if he is not, then atleast we know and we get a good first round pick. If he is going to be the starter, then better he start now than later. Feilder, (he is a joke) and so are you if you think we are going anywhere with him.:fire:

So then....if Feidler is as bad as you say he is, and you dont know if AJ is any better.......By your post, wouldnt it have been the best move to start JF (since he will never EVER take this team to the SB), have a top draft pick, and a top 2nd round draft pick instead of trading it to Philly if AJ is not going to win now. Wasnt the point in trading for AJ for a 2nd round pick to lead this team now and onto the future? Nnot lose now, high draft 1st rd pick, no 2nd round pk, and hope AJ comes through....I dont think so!
At least this way we can draft a top QB 1st (that is 5 year younger than AJ), and still have a top 2nd rounder!

 

[Dolphins12thMan]

The point is....people like yourself are slamming AJ for doing things in one game that Fiedler's been doing for 4 years. I was making a comparison. Apparently that eluded you, huh?

You're willing to go back to a guy who's done squat for 4 years, but ready to hang a guy who's had one game. Mind-boggling.... :roflmao:

:confused: 1st off I have never said anything negaticve of AJ, I just made a comparison. You say Jay has been doing this for 4 years, doesnt it concern you as a Dolphin fan that AJ Feeley who was brought in to be an upgrade at the QB position, is like you say, (doing the same thing as JF) his first 2 games of the year? The fact is, if AJ Feeley is an upgrade from JF, its not a substantial upgrade, and JF didnt cost us a second round pick.

 

[DA DICK]

Wow, does your hatred for Jay run so deep that you are willing to discredit his role completely in 41 victories?

Yes, kinda of like the same way we discredit everything you post because you make no sense.

 

[Coral Reefer]

you didn't read the thread.... you read the subject title and went straight to the "quick reply", didn't ya?

Actually no I didn't.
I see your post for what it is.
A praise of a QB that I think is long overdue for replacement and a quick decision by you on the new guy that has had zero time to prove anything.

 

[Coral Reefer]

:confused: 1st off I have never said anything negaticve of AJ, I just made a comparison. You say Jay has been doing this for 4 years, doesnt it concern you as a Dolphin fan that AJ Feeley who was brought in to be an upgrade at the QB position, is like you say, (doing the same thing as JF) his first 2 games of the year? The fact is, if AJ Feeley is an upgrade from JF, its not a substantial upgrade, and JF didnt cost us a second round pick.

Yes I find it very distrubing that Fiedler, with all his experience is playing like a 1st year starter in a new offensive system with completely new players around him. Feely will need time to grow. That is common sense to those that understand that concept. Feeley has upside and potential to be a good starter in this league. Jay Fiedler dosen't have any more potential PERIOD.

 

[inFINSible]

Yes I find it very distrubing that Fiedler, with all his experience is playing like a 1st year starter in a new offensive system with completely new players around him. Feely will need time to grow. That is common sense to those that understand that concept. Feeley has upside and potential to be a good starter in this league. Jay Fiedler dosen't have any more potential PERIOD.

Maybe if you tattoo this post on the back of someone's eyelids, they'll have to see it enough times that they'll actually start to get it.

just a thought.

 

[Pagan]

Yes I find it very distrubing that Fiedler, with all his experience is playing like a 1st year starter in a new offensive system with completely new players around him. Feely will need time to grow. That is common sense to those that understand that concept. Feeley has upside and potential to be a good starter in this league. Jay Fiedler dosen't have any more potential PERIOD.

What he said....

 

[BlueFin]

I'm not a Fiedler homer, but i'm sick of seeing this in every thread - everyone is jumping on that expression bandwagon.

In four years, Fieder took us to a 41-23 record, at no point starting out 0-2 even in his FIRST YEAR. (new to system, always been a backup, etc...) Granted, we had a better O-line, but we lacked some of the other weapons in other areas.

I'm not saying put Fiedler in for the game in Pitt, but i am saying give him his credit. I'm sick of all the bashing on here with you Feeley guys having no argument other than "the guys new - he's a rookie - this is a new system - the o-line won't block for him - etc" . I would like to see Feeley do well, but he's not. He has the stronger arm than Fiedler, but even Fiedler makes better decisions than what Feeley has made thus far.

Instead of listing excuses for Feeley while you're bashing Fiedler, why don't you try NOT bashing the guy who got us a winning record the last four years and try hoping your new guy proves he is better. The quality of his throws doesn't mean jack **** in the record books.

Here's for Feeley proving himself in sunday's game. :cooldude:

Oh well, your wrong if you think Fiedler got us those wins, he's no more responsible than Tim Ruddy was, the Center with the best won loss record of the last four years.

 

[ATL-DOLFAN]

Have you watched any of those wins, they W-L record might be reversed if it weren't for Mare and that badass defense we have!!! Come on, can see your point on some levels with the wins, but most wins are by a last minute kick, or I HOPE HE DOESN"T THROW ANOTHER PICK nail biting time. Between his arm and decision making, he Wannstedt spinning us around the bowl and I guess it just time to flush it.

 

[kanelakos]

I'm not a Fiedler homer, but i'm sick of seeing this in every thread - everyone is jumping on that expression bandwagon.

In four years, Fieder took us to a 41-23 record, at no point starting out 0-2 even in his FIRST YEAR. (new to system, always been a backup, etc...) Granted, we had a better O-line, but we lacked some of the other weapons in other areas.

I'm not saying put Fiedler in for the game in Pitt, but i am saying give him his credit. I'm sick of all the bashing on here with you Feeley guys having no argument other than "the guys new - he's a rookie - this is a new system - the o-line won't block for him - etc" . I would like to see Feeley do well, but he's not. He has the stronger arm than Fiedler, but even Fiedler makes better decisions than what Feeley has made thus far.

Instead of listing excuses for Feeley while you're bashing Fiedler, why don't


you try NOT bashing the guy who got us a winning record the last four years and try hoping your new guy proves he is better. The quality of his throws doesn't mean jack **** in the record books.

Here's for Feeley proving himself in sunday's game. :cooldude:

I have supported Jay for the whole time because of his attitude, guts and we had nobody better, but its time to give someone else a try.
50% ( a guess ) of those wins (Feidler) were purely defensive wins. Even Ryan Leaf coulda won those games.

 

[Dolphins12thMan]

Yes I find it very distrubing that Fiedler, with all his experience is playing like a 1st year starter in a new offensive system with completely new players around him. Feely will need time to grow. That is common sense to those that understand that concept. Feeley has upside and potential to be a good starter in this league. Jay Fiedler dosen't have any more potential PERIOD.

You make it sound like AJ is a 22 year old rookie. I love when people use the word "POTENTIAL". :shakeno:

 

[Phinzone]

You make it sound like AJ is a 22 year old rookie. I love when people use the word "POTENTIAL". :shakeno:

Potential as in he's 27, we don't know really what he's capable of, but we DO know he throws a better ball, father, and a hell of a lot more accurate than Jay.

Did you hear Wanny? jay is playing 'the best he's over seen him" yet Aj STILL outproduced him in his first 2 games as a dolphin. Better completion %, hell of a lot more yards, and this with no OL, his FIRST year in a system when jay got the vast majority of time with the players in the pre-season.

I said it earlier, AJ is the guy to go with. Wanny dicked around and didn't name him starter cutting his snaps with the first team O in half, and giving Jay the pre-season starts.
Why judge AJ now? Give him 4 years THEN you might have an argument. Until then be content knowing Jay is playing 'the he ever has" and STILL can't win the starting job over a new guy. Pathetic.

 

[Coral Reefer]

You make it sound like AJ is a 22 year old rookie. I love when people use the word "POTENTIAL". :shakeno:

Wow, there's insight. NOT.

He's 27 so he is incapable of having potential.
Is that really your argument?
If he took one year to grow into a starting role he'd be 28 and would have at least 3-4 years to play. I say that because at that point he'd be just as old as Jay who you still want as our starter.

You use an age argument against why AJ can't have potential when your still trumpeting Jay's horn who is in his 30's. Your boy Jay was given his start, based on what the team thought was his potential at the same point in his career.

Great argument!