Strange. WVDolphan said the exact thing last year. He said that you could tell starting around the second half of the season by the way the defenses played vs. the Dolphins, the opposing DC obviously had no fear of Tannehill beating them with his arm and planned accordingly. But, that guy is obviously an idiot.
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Strange. WVDolphan said the exact thing last year. He said that you could tell starting around the second half of the season by the way the defenses played vs. the Dolphins, the opposing DC obviously had no fear of Tannehill beating them with his arm and planned accordingly. But, that guy is obviously an idiot.
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You also said Jeff Ireland "like a boss" - Your football knowledge is questionable.
dlockz
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He also had Tannehill as a top 10 qb at one time. Im his defense nobody is right about everything hell not even 50 percent in reality.
We are just fans with opinions.
Why are you referring to yourself in the 3rd person? You are becoming quite the troll. Seriously, its a big time jackass move. There is nothing more annoying than someone who thinks so highly of himself that they think it is justified.
Also, your are pretty much exactly wrong when it came to the way opposing D's played the Fins last year. They knew they could easily get pressure on Tannehill while only rushing 4 players so he constantly saw coverage consisting of 7 people.
dlockz
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We were bad at running the ball , bad at pass protection it doesn't take a genius to know what DC's will focus on to stop our passing game. Not to mention we lost Gibson who played well and nobody took his role as well as Mike Wallace underachieving although of course it was everyone else's fault that he did not easily break the nfl receiving record
maralieus
Lets get those balls deep!!
If Eli manning is a 2 then so is cam Newton. Tannehill I would say is right around 18-20. I was honestly expecting them to put him closer to dead last, like 31st with only Geno Smith under him
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Our gameplans were so freaking biased towards the pass last year, with a crappy OL to boot, that its very hard to judge a QB. I really like Tannehill and hope he becomes a great all around QB, but nevertheless, I bought his jersey for my year and a half kid... So if he doesnt work out, it wont fit on him by the time we find out anyway...
Yea, but its easier for them to all run around saying "like a boss LIKE A BOSS LIKE A BOSS". Its easy because its one of the few times they can bring up of me being off the mark. Reality is I have missed plenty more times than that. But, reality also is that a large part of the reason Ireland failed was because of Tannehill.
What you wont see though is them bringing up all the times I have absolutely nailed things that most failed to see. You wont see them bringing up the many times I was way ahead of the curve. But, thats OK. Watch Tannehill be one of those times. A year or two from now they will all be bashing Tannehill and just sweep this under the rug while they scream LIKE A BOSS.
Look, when I feel like the Phins are finally on the right track, I will make more positive posts about the outlook of the team. As, Dlockz pointed out, there was a time when I was screaming about Tannehill being a top 10 QB. I was wrong. Its odd because when he had that stretch of games that impressed me in his rookie season and I got overly optimistic, few went along with me. A year and a half later and Tannehill has done NOTHING to warrant such optimism about his ability to be our long term savior but, it seems like most of the board feels they way I did about him when he played a handful of good games in a row during that rookie season. He has basically been mediocre at best since then. I dont get it.
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Here is my take…
1. RT has been much better than I thought he would be coming out as a very green QB from TAMU
2. He has progressed in his first two years as a QB.
3. At the same time, I am not sure if I give him franchise money…which all productive QB's are getting…when his contract is up. I heard it mentioned that the Bengals are in QB purgatory. Meaning they have a guy that can get them only so far, but there is nothing on the market that they can upgrade with…yet, they are forced to pay him a ton of money and hence cap room to keep him in the fold.
I am not ready to give him franchise QB money right now. Thankfully enough he can play a few more seasons before deciding that.
1. RT has been much better than I thought he would be coming out as a very green QB from TAMU
2. He has progressed in his first two years as a QB.
3. At the same time, I am not sure if I give him franchise money…which all productive QB's are getting…when his contract is up. I heard it mentioned that the Bengals are in QB purgatory. Meaning they have a guy that can get them only so far, but there is nothing on the market that they can upgrade with…yet, they are forced to pay him a ton of money and hence cap room to keep him in the fold.
I am not ready to give him franchise QB money right now. Thankfully enough he can play a few more seasons before deciding that.
I dont think they rushed only 4 as much as you perceive.
Besides, I wasnt commenting so much on how many rushers the opposing defense was sending and I dont believe that DC who was quoted in the article was either. What I noticed was that defenses started to basically ignore the deep patterns and were therefore able to crunch down on the intermediate stuff.
Not being concerned about the deep ball( a.k.a being beaten by Tannehill's arm) allowed defenses to focus on our rushing attack and really cloud the short and intermediate areas of the field. The 10-15 yard outs are Tannehill's strength and DC's took note of this. There was a reason that Wallace was able to get open deep so often and it wasnt just because he has elite speed. Teams had no fear of Tannehill connecting on that throw enough to beat them. It was no different than when a basketball team lacks perimeter shooting ability. They will let guys take that shot all day if they want it while being able to pack it in down low.
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IMO, our debate has to start to transition to whether or not RT deserves a contract extension in a year or so. A decision does not need to be made now, but it is coming. I am not sure where I stand and want to see more progression. I do not want to swallow a ton of cap space if I am not convinced the guy is a longterm viable starter. IF he can be the answer, than I extend.
He has done some excellent things early on in his career. However, does it warrant the money that the market is currently throwing at QB's?
He has done some excellent things early on in his career. However, does it warrant the money that the market is currently throwing at QB's?
GoonBoss
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If Mark Sanchez came in my house, I'd fear for my wife.
I know it's not the same thing though.
roy_miami
2020 cant get here soon enough
Brady and Luck, guys that won 12 and 13 games don't deserve to be in tier one? I get that they didn't have stats relative to a great QB'ing performance like Russell Wilson but the one stat that should matter most is winning percentage.
And speaking of Wilson, did I read that right? He's tier three and is unlikely to ever be tier one according to them? He's won 28 ****ing games and a SUPERBOWL in TWO seasons as a pro!!!!!!
TWENTY.
EIGHT.
MOTHER****ING.
WINS.
And his passer rating stat over his two seasons as a pro is third only to Rodgers and Manning, two of the greats with much more experience. Russell Wilson has the best two year start to a career in the modern history of the league, that fact is not even debatable. Which means the article loses all credibility if they indeed have Wilson as a tier 3 QB.
And speaking of Wilson, did I read that right? He's tier three and is unlikely to ever be tier one according to them? He's won 28 ****ing games and a SUPERBOWL in TWO seasons as a pro!!!!!!
TWENTY.
EIGHT.
MOTHER****ING.
WINS.
And his passer rating stat over his two seasons as a pro is third only to Rodgers and Manning, two of the greats with much more experience. Russell Wilson has the best two year start to a career in the modern history of the league, that fact is not even debatable. Which means the article loses all credibility if they indeed have Wilson as a tier 3 QB.
dabeastdabone
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For years we were told he was great because he had no real (WR) talent around him. Now we are told he isn't great because he has no real WR talent around him.
Correction: Seattle has 28 wins and a SB. I'm not sure why people don't get the significance of that distinction (sometimes). Dolphin fans have no problem ranking Dan Marino over Terry Bradshaw and Troy Aikman. Why is that perfectly fine but any qualification of "Wilson's" record is deemed absurd? IT IS THE SAME DISTINCTION. It is an acknowledgement that football is a team game. Each individual on the team is not necessarily the best or near the best at their position.