Muck...I think you hit it right on the head...Warner WAS a great talent...He was also a system qb with many comparisons to Griese's ability...But the issue with Warner is the thumb and the concussions....the thumb, he says, is healed but he could not shake a reporters hand late in the season last year (I forget, but I think it was Jaworski that made the comment about the handshake) and concussions can start to occur at any time. Add these things to joining a new system (perhaps similar), but new terminology, etc and his lack of mobility with our newly assembled OL and it spells disaster. I have been completely turned off of JF as our starter, but think he gives us the best "off the bench" possiblity we could have. Even at the vet minimum, I think we are better off where we are right now....