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fastest? strongest? etc.

StLouisFinFan said:
Vick Shouldn't be considered? Lots of other with similar attributes? Wooooooooooohhhh!

What the he!! are you smoling hombre? I'll take two! Michael Vick is bar far the most gifted athelete I have EVER seen. The only one that could even be considered in the same sentence would be Bo Jackson. I still remember the first time I saw him play. It was the 2000 (maybe 1999) NCAA championship game between Vick's Hokies and my Noles. The Noles won that game, but I will never forget what I saw that night. That Noles defense was chock full of speedy top shelf athletes, from the DBs to the DL...they all had NFL level speed. All year long they just smothered opposing players. Yet that night, if you had no previous knowledge, you would have thought Vick was running past JFL players. He just flat out made them look stupid. He put on a dazzling display of quickness, vision, speed, strength, explosiveness and spin moves like I had not seen before or since.

Now I'll grant you, he may not be the most well polished QB, but in terms of being an athlete, he is the definition of "freak". I challenge you to show me even one player in the NFL who could play "tag" with Vick. He's just in a different league altogether my friend.


let's see... Daunte Hall is one.... Ron's teamate Rossum too, i believe.... now don't get me wrong, i love Ron as a player, IMO he's the reason the falcons got so far last year and he's got an amazing arm, just needs to improve his accuracy and he'll become one of the greatest ever. All i'm saying though, is he's not the best all around athlete in the league. you look at him and he's built like a speedy WR/CB/KR (he's what, 6'0", 210lbs?) but you see him at QB, and you think he's a better athlete than he really is because the position has never seen anyone with his speed or moves and defenses aren't really prepared for someone like that.

oh and one more thing, being an amazing athlete isn't just about speed and moves, you also need to have size, strength, etc. Guys like Matt Jones, Peppers, Culpepper, and Kearse should be the ones being considered when one talks about the most amazing athlete.
 
Dolphins
fastest: Chambers
strongest: Chester
smartest: Zach Thomas (on the field)
most overall physical freak: Ricky Williams
 
StLouisFinFan said:
Vick Shouldn't be considered? Lots of other with similar attributes? Wooooooooooohhhh!

What the he!! are you smoling hombre? I'll take two! Michael Vick is bar far the most gifted athelete I have EVER seen. The only one that could even be considered in the same sentence would be Bo Jackson. I still remember the first time I saw him play. It was the 2000 (maybe 1999) NCAA championship game between Vick's Hokies and my Noles. The Noles won that game, but I will never forget what I saw that night. That Noles defense was chock full of speedy top shelf athletes, from the DBs to the DL...they all had NFL level speed. All year long they just smothered opposing players. Yet that night, if you had no previous knowledge, you would have thought Vick was running past JFL players. He just flat out made them look stupid. He put on a dazzling display of quickness, vision, speed, strength, explosiveness and spin moves like I had not seen before or since.


I'll second that, one of the most amazing gifted players I've seen is Barry Sanders, of course someone is gonna say something about strength, Barry Sanders is much stronger than people think. He was a small man, and running over players was not his style obvioously he had his own, but I've seen him drag plenty of DBs into the endzone when ever they tried brining him down. Barry was so hard to tackle, because not only his agility, etc, but his incredible balance and leg strength, he would be thrown, or spun around and somehow he'd still be up because of his leg power. Pound for pound Barry was pretty darn strong, I remeber hearing on a video that Barry benched 225lbs 23 times, not bad for a guy that's 5'8'' 205 or whatever. As far as quickness, vision, speed, explosiveness, and spin moves go, Barry is tops. The guy was Houdini on the field, Michael has amazing runs and might be the next best thing, but it will be awhile before, or if there's another player like Barry. But Michael is among the top in amazing runs, or ability in that catergory. It would be like this, 1. Barry 2. Gale Sayers( he was the pioneer of the spectacular long runs) 3. Michael Vick.
 
fastest is probably laverneus coles. I think he ran a 4.21. I just know it scares the crap out of me with him back with the jets, hes a burner and is gonna give us problems.
 
cltchperf said:
StLouisFinFan said:
Vick Shouldn't be considered? Lots of other with similar attributes? Wooooooooooohhhh!

What the he!! are you smoling hombre? I'll take two! Michael Vick is bar far the most gifted athelete I have EVER seen. The only one that could even be considered in the same sentence would be Bo Jackson. I still remember the first time I saw him play. It was the 2000 (maybe 1999) NCAA championship game between Vick's Hokies and my Noles. The Noles won that game, but I will never forget what I saw that night. That Noles defense was chock full of speedy top shelf athletes, from the DBs to the DL...they all had NFL level speed. All year long they just smothered opposing players. Yet that night, if you had no previous knowledge, you would have thought Vick was running past JFL players. He just flat out made them look stupid. He put on a dazzling display of quickness, vision, speed, strength, explosiveness and spin moves like I had not seen before or since.


I'll second that, one of the most amazing gifted players I've seen is Barry Sanders, of course someone is gonna say something about strength, Barry Sanders is much stronger than people think. He was a small man, and running over players was not his style obvioously he had his own, but I've seen him drag plenty of DBs into the endzone when ever they tried brining him down. Barry was so hard to tackle, because not only his agility, etc, but his incredible balance and leg strength, he would be thrown, or spun around and somehow he'd still be up because of his leg power. Pound for pound Barry was pretty darn strong, I remeber hearing on a video that Barry benched 225lbs 23 times, not bad for a guy that's 5'8'' 205 or whatever. As far as quickness, vision, speed, explosiveness, and spin moves go, Barry is tops. The guy was Houdini on the field, Michael has amazing runs and might be the next best thing, but it will be awhile before, or if there's another player like Barry. But Michael is among the top in amazing runs, or ability in that catergory. It would be like this, 1. Barry 2. Gale Sayers( he was the pioneer of the spectacular long runs) 3. Michael Vick.

read my above post. a 5'8" 205lbs player can't be considered a physical freak, the type of guys that should be considered are `players like Matt Jones, Culpepper, Kearse, Peppers, Freeney, etc.
 
I was wondering who you guys think which athletes are the 'best of' in certain attributes? (fins and entire NFL). I'll go first:

Dolphins
fastest: Gilmore
strongest Chester
smartest: Seau
most overall physical freak: David Boston or Ricky Williams


NFL
fastest: Allan Rossum I think it is?
strongest: Will Allen or Larry Chester
smartest: On the field Manning IQ wise probably Eric Johnson or Fiedler
most overall physical freak: I dunno about you but Seymour would scare the living crap out of me if I played against him. He's somewhere around 290 and runs like he's 250. I know some of those pass rushers are nice, but just his size/speed/strength combo is the best in the game IMO.
 
Oh god comon. Coles? He's ever so slightly faster than Chambers...

The fastest in the league is Dante Stallworth, used to be Randy Moss.
 
saves said:
Actually our fastest guy is Gilmore, im pretty sure lsat years camp roster had him as it and we didn't bring any burners in. Chester is def our strongest.

I think fastest in the NFL is Michael Bennett, the guy was a beast in track in college, he has olympic speed. Maybe Deangelo Williams or someone is close to. I'm just thinking track speed though.

Yeah Bennett is the fastest in the NFL, he's been clocked at 9.98 in the 100 which is ridiculous
 
Sorry if it's a stupid question but what is the wonderlic test? :huh:
 
arnoldu said:
Sorry if it's a stupid question but what is the wonderlic test? :huh:

like an iq test. rookies take it so teams know their intelligence.
 
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