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I want us to play Feeley so that he can look like crap and we can get rid of him. If he sits this year people will still be clammoring for him 'he spent a year learning the system' 'hes more experienced now he can show what he can do' blah blah. I want to see him get a year with a solid running game, solid oline play so that we can see him if he has what it takes. I think he will play like crap regardless. I have never and will never make 'young and inexperienced' excuses for a 28 year old, thats just ignorant. I dont care if he was 3rd string or what, he's been coached, practiced and playing againt NFL level competition for years he should not look like a deer in headlights when a passrush comes in. He has an arm, so what? Theres hundreds of guys with good arms. He has no pose, no smarts and turns the ball over. He's a chump with a good arm.
 
Sirspud said:
Actualy, i disagree with the Warner situation in NY because he was a former MVP. It was actually foolish to have pulled him when they did, because they had above a .500 record, and 3-4 more wins would have easily gotten them into the playoffs in an extrememly weak conference. Of course, Manning's experience will pay off this year, but they were about to qualify for the playoffs despite their best effort.

But, he was playing EXTRMEMELY poorly, and was coming off a loss to Arizona and Chicago... despite their record, he was ineffective and was not having success throwing the ball. It's true, they might have squeaked into the playoffs, but it was clear they were not going anywhere, and the experience Manning got was far more valuable then having Warner as a caretaker and winning games on Tiki's back.
 
Oregonfinfan said:
You are one of the most ignorant, misinformed people I have ever seen post on this board:mad: First of all anyone who knows anything on this board knows that the only reason AJ was third string in Phili was because KORKY was the holder for the fg's if mcnabb was to have goen down Feeley woudl have gotten the start, Also Feeley did start in college but hurt his elbow and had to have surgery and when he came back harrington had lit the world on fire and so he did not get his job back, obviously he was still good enough to be drafted or he wouldn't have been and when we traded for him we were not the only team trying to get him we were just the only team willing to give to much to get him
so please inform yourself before making unintelligent post. :confused:

well maybe you should learn your facts before making stupid comments because when mcnabb did go down a couple of years ago the put Koy Detmer in the game and then he got hurt also so the put in AJ and he did decent but nothing special and that is why everyone got excited when the dolphins made the stupidest trade in the history of the franchise for AJ Feeley and they gave up a 2nd round pick for him. i wouldnt take him for a 5th round pick let alone a 2nd rounder. We could have really used the 2nd rounder to help build our team with young players. Apparently you didnt watch one of the worst offences in the league last year with AJ at the qb position either. and did you see how he got scared of the blitzes and lost 2 games for us last year against the bengals and the seahawks when he threw interceptions returned for touchdowns in the 4th quarter of both of those games. so stay on your feeley bandwagon if you want to stay with the 30th overall offense in the NFL. Did you see how good Feeley moved the ball in the first preseason game. Did he manage to help us get 1 or 2 1st downs in the first quarter of the game. he really moved the ball well for us. The smart move would to start frerrotte who is familiar with the system and is more aware and is a veteren in the league and have a better year and then get a young quarterback the draft or sign a free agent and we can work that person in for the years comming or we can start Feeley be the worst offense in the NFL again and let the young people on are team get used to losing. TAKE YOUR PICK. I THINK IT IS PRETTY SIMPLE. GET RID OF FEELEY. HE HAS NO FUTURE WITH THIS ORGANIZATION SO WHY TRY TO GET HIM THE EXPERIENCE.
 
grooves12 said:
regardless of how the pre-season "competition" goes... unless of course Frerotte shows enough skills to be looked at as a legitimate pro-bowl contendor this year, and I think that is unlikely.

Hear me out...

Feeley, DEFINITELY has natural skill when it comes to throwing the ball. He throws accurately, has the strength to make any throw, and generally hits the receiver in stride when he has time to throw. His problems are mainly that he is young and inexperienced, and because of this hasn't learned the nuances of the game as far as reading defenses, looking off defenders, and maintaining his composure in the face of a pass rush.

These are all things that can be learned and most QB's develop these skills over time. I mean as much as Fiedler gets hate, no one can deny that he improved greatly in those categories (although he was never afraid of a pass rush) the longer he started here. His problem was he never had the arm to make all the throws, and I would argue with the injuries he sustained while he was here his arm got worse and worse. If you look at just about ANY rookie QB in the league (even Roethlisberger) none of them have these skills until they have started about 1.5-3 years worth of games. Look at Peyton Manning, if they had given up on him after his first full season, they would have missed out on one of the most Successful QB's in the league over the last few years, and he developed MUCH faster than most. Feeley doesn't have much more experience than a rookie does at this point in his career, so he should be looked at pretty much the same way... although with a bit shorter leash, because of age, and the situation the team is in with rebuilding.

We have invested a lot in Feeley, and I think we need to find out if that investment is worth it. Put him in, let him play at least half the season in the new offense, and see what he is made of. Even the most optimistic fans of the team don't expect much better than 8-8 out of the team (and that's a stretch), so why continue to hold back the development of a player we have invested a lot in, and get no closer to finding our long-term solution at the most important position on the team, by starting Gus, who will not likely be a long-term solution?

If Feeley makes it to the midpoint of the season, and hasn't shown any progress, and no signs that he is the answer... fine. Pull him, let Gus take over, and give some of the other players on the team a chance to finish with a bang and get some confidence leading into next season. Then, do everything we can to draft a top QB early next year, and let him play behind Gus and come along slowly.

We have too much invested in Feeley, to not give him the chance needed to show if he is worth it. Personally, I beleive it is unfair to expect Feeley, a guy with limited experience in a new system, to be able to WIN a competition against a Veteran, like Frerotte, who already knows the system. As long as he shows promise and some flashes, which I beleive he already has (See New England last year), I beleive he should be given the position and a chance to grow into the starter.

You just wasted 10 minutes spouting off about things that don't even makes sense. Feeley sucks, End of Story!!
 
cad said:
Even Frerotte isn't a "great" NFL starting Qb.

Guys the last time Frerotte started 16 Games was 1996 he was a bench warmer almost the last 10 years !!!

Pro bowler!!!!!!!!!

Single game record for yds/gm in Den history(unless Jake has broke it)

Sat behind some good if not great guys!!!! Outperformed Pepper in Minny when given the chance!!!!!

When was the last time Feeley started 16 games? Highschool,popwarner, or Madden 2004?

He could not beat out Detmer and may not be able to beat out the senior cit. Gus. If he can not legitly beat Gus, WHY ON GOD"S GREEN EARTH DOES ANYBODY WANT HIM TO START???????

Who beat him out in college? Carr or Harrington! Not to great there.

Drop the Feeley will/should start b/c he is younger,we have more invested in him, and he can be the qb of the future. Who ever wins, WINS!!!! I will support the better man 100% til he gives me reason to jump ship. Hate who you want, but be ready to eat crow and be miserable(like the Fiddler's time in the Aqua) when you see a guy playing just b/c he is younger, less experienced and was handed the job. I want competition. I do not want a dark dismal future tied to a guy b/c of anything other than he could not be beat out. I feel both are a stop gap w/ Gus being good but only for a year or 2, maybe 3. Feeley I think has tools, and can be adequate until a better prospect comes along.

Let's all do one thing. Judge the Jax game fair and unbiased, discuss it, wait till the next week watch that game and then start the real heat. Go Gus!!! Go FEEley!!! Go Brock!!! Go Sage!!! I hope they all look stellar! Big dream but I hope it happens. Unlikely.
 
Dolphins561 said:
I'm personally a Feeley fan. Of the choices we have, it's Feeley. I totally agree with letting him learn. I mean, I don't expect the Super Bowl this year. I would be happy with over 500. But why try and build something around a 33 QB who won't be around in another year or two. I totally agree with all of your points. We should give him the chance.

How old was Gannon when he brought the Raiders to the SUPER BOWL?
 
Sirspud said:
A quarterback is something you build around, LB is not. By giving AJ a chance we are giving our team a chance to have a starting QB for quite a few years. By starting Frerotte we are giving our team a chance to be decent for a few years until he retires. LB is an easier position to reach your full potential than QB.

If failure is what happens to Feeley then we will not be going any where for 4-5-6 years! Hey, sound's good to me. I would rather give a guy a job, not make him prove that he can beat out anybody other than Sioux Falls colleges qb, be a bumbling bottom dweller for 5 years than a potential top level team for a little while(2-3 year).

Give it to him!!!!! Yeah.....RIGHT!!!!!!!!
 
djfresh47 said:
Tell the Baltimore Ravens that. AJ has a chance to win the job, and if he doesn't, than the team should just hand him the job? I find that ridiculous, and a slap in the face of every veteran player on the team who wants to have success now. Aj is 28, he's not a rookie, he's been in the league 5 years and if he can't beat out a career backup than he's not a starting caliber QB in the league.

BINGO!!!!!
If he takes a couple years to figure things out, we will not have the D we have now, the running game will likely be thinner in depth, and we could end up w/ a bunch of Yatil Green's coming and going. Oh.... he will also be 30 something. If we are willing to suffer through mistakes and misery. Make it on a 22-23-24 year old so we get 10 good years out of him, not just 3-4 so....so! Then 3-4 god years!!!!!
 
Sat behind some good if not great guys!!!! Outperformed Pepper in Minny when given the chance!!!!!

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i can't believe you said that.
 
Dolphins84 said:
This might be the stupidest comment i ever heard in my life. Feeley is terrible. he cant read defenses, he locks onto one reciever and only throws to that person, he got a strong arm but cant handle the pressure and makes stupid decisions, he cant do stuff consistently for example he will make a great throw one play and then the next play he throws an interception to the other team for a touchdown. i dont think he is even good enough to be the back up for an NFL team and one of the best coaches in the NFL must agree with me because andy reid had feeley as a backup to KOY DETMER. IF he isnt good enough to be ahead of koy he isnt good enough to be a starter in the NFL. and if i remember right he didnt even start in college so i dont see what you think is so good about this guy and how you expect him to become a solid NFL starter. Gus should be given the job and the only way for him not to start is if he loses the job by his own performance but he should be given the starting position without question. I dont understand what any of you see in feeley. All i see is him lead us to a 3 and out everytime we get the ball. he did it all of last year and in the first preseason game this year.

I got it!!!!!
These guys aren't done w/ the Fiedler experiment yet!!! You know, bring in a guy that can not crack the lineup on the team he is on, and the righteous Dolphins and all their great talent can make him a star!! Let's do it again. It seems to have worked so well!! Didn't it??? Or not?
 
Sirspud said:
Maybe that's one of the reasons why the Bucs are in the dumps. Both the Bucs and Raiders formed around veterans, some which the term "veteran" hardly even applies because they are collecting social security while playing. Both teams were good for a year or two then fell into the pits. Maybe if he would have had the foresight to develop players instead of bringing in high priced guys, they wouldn't have lost all their talent because they would have had talented young players.

Let's see..........

Gruden......Raiders....... Super Bowl........
Gruden......Bucs........... Super Bowl........
I like them beans!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will take a super bowl and a bad year a super bowl and a bad year over and over and over and over and over and over and over .............
 
Oregonfinfan said:
You are one of the most ignorant, misinformed people I have ever seen post on this board:mad: First of all anyone who knows anything on this board knows that the only reason AJ was third string in Phili was because KORKY was the holder for the fg's if mcnabb was to have goen down Feeley woudl have gotten the start, Also Feeley did start in college but hurt his elbow and had to have surgery and when he came back harrington had lit the world on fire and so he did not get his job back, obviously he was still good enough to be drafted or he wouldn't have been and when we traded for him we were not the only team trying to get him we were just the only team willing to give to much to get him
so please inform yourself before making unintelligent post. :confused:

Koy did play before AJ!!!!! Fact!!!!! Guaranteed!!!!!!!!!

Where is the link!!!! You know, the one that says other teams wanted him!!! It is called being dooped! The now famous Tice dooparoo. Tice did it and Reid did it. Wanny, what a freakin Einstein.

So he is always hurt. Start him. That way we know we will see the crowd favorite, backup quarter back 5-6 times a year! You never know, Saban could start dooping other teams!!!!!
 
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