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Feeley Should Start

chuckcole said:
The only issue that I have is that I believe that Saban has a responsibility to the veteran guys on the team and of course Huizenga to put forth the best team that he can. If that means putting Gus out there, then I think he will do that. And similarly with Feeley.

There's more to this than the football side. For instance, if we can put up a few more wins with the "best player" (whomever that is), then maybe we can possibly get a prime time game next year, as an example. More exposure brings in more revenue, as does more wins. From an owner's standpoint, that's good business-sense, and may be what Wayne is expecting from Saban. However, on the flip side, if playing Feeley is like an investment for the future (i.e., we play him to determine what we have, make him better, etc.) we may end up with a better team in the future -- thus risk losing money to bring in money in the future.

Again, I'm torn on the "right" way (which is why I'm not a businessman). But my point is that I believe that it's more than just a on the field football issue.

I see your point and I've got the business sense of a dog but, I would think the long term success of the team would trump any short term success.

Short term success is unstable, it comes and goes, long term success is more stable and ensures longer periods of higher revenue.

Did I say that??

I can see that there may be the pressure from Wayne that you brought up so , that probably is something to consider.

Thank you for giving it some thought and not just saying they both suck. :)
 
BALLS DEEP said:
Argh! I just want us to go back to contending every year! I am to impatient to appreciate the rebuilding process!!!!

It's funny,a couple months ago many of us (me included) thought that this year was going to be a huge step forward. Now, after three lousy pre-season games we are slapped with a huge dose of reality. We are still rebuilding. I can only hope that Saban makes the process short and fairly painless. What I'll be watching every week is the younger players, looking at the future of the team. I think the playoffs are at least two years away.
 
Maybe Saban has already written off Feeley in his mind. I know I have.

If that's the case then Gus plays this year and next year, and we either draft a QB next year or go for the young FA (who spends part of 2006 as backup learning the system).

Face it people, we are rebuilding and it doesn't happen in a year. It took San Diego a couple before Martyball came together. Let's settle in for the process and watch it develop, it will make our Superbowl victory in 2007 that much sweeter!
 
inFINSible said:
Thank you for giving it some thought and not just saying they both suck. :)
You're quite welcome. I appreciate and enjoy your threads because they are well thought out and at least intend to spark thoughtful discussions.

I must admit, though, that I would like to see Feeley start. The reasoning is not just based on this year, but I have a long history with Gus.

I live in Deadskin territory, so all I hear is news about the Skins:fire:. And I've lived here long enough to endure the time when Gus was the starter with them. So, the words "Gus sucks" brings back memories from a long time ago!
 
thewicked1isher said:
It's funny,a couple months ago many of us (me included) thought that this year was going to be a huge step forward. Now, after three lousy pre-season games we are slapped with a huge dose of reality. We are still rebuilding. I can only hope that Saban makes the process short and fairly painless. What I'll be watching every week is the younger players, looking at the future of the team. I think the playoffs are at least two years away.


Im telling you right now, you are way off the mark buddy, will you be coming around come week 5 or 6 and telling everyone how wrong you were? i doubt it. You will probably post (if at all) that wow! what a surprise, I thought we really sucked, but guess what, we are improving! :sleep: I for one wont be listening to any of you.
 
Why in he hell would you put feeley again, he isn't even experienced enough in the first place. Second of all, he doesn't know this system as well as Gus Ferrotte. Gus did really well when Dante fell out of injury in the last couple of years. INfinsible... you need to realize that Gus is the best and most experienced qb that we have in a roster.

Remember all those passes for touchdowns last season by feeley?
 
chuckcole said:
You're quite welcome. I appreciate and enjoy your threads because they are well thought out and at least intend to spark thoughtful discussions.

I must admit, though, that I would like to see Feeley start. The reasoning is not just based on this year, but I have a long history with Gus.

I live in Deadskin territory, so all I hear is news about the Skins:fire:. And I've lived here long enough to endure the time when Gus was the starter with them. So, the words "Gus sucks" brings back memories from a long time ago!

last time i looked, this is a team game. And the last time i looked at the redskins in those years, they sucked entirely top to bottom.
 
finfan54 said:
last time i looked, this is a team game. And the last time i looked at the redskins in those years, they sucked entirely top to bottom.
Your point? The last time I looked, there are quite a few people here saying "AJ sucks" or "Gus sucks". Are we just as bad then?
 
Hs anyone consisdered that Linehan doesnt like what he sees in Feeley and has to run dump off plays for his fragile ego?
 
chuckcole said:
Your point? The last time I looked, there are quite a few people here saying "AJ sucks" or "Gus sucks". Are we just as bad then?

the point here is that Gus is not really to blame. I think coach Saban has pointed that out quite right.
 
finfan54 said:
the point here is that Gus is not really to blame. I think coach Saban has pointed that out quite right.
Then naturally, Feeley isn't to blame for last year and when playing behind the same line this year.
 
finfan54 said:
Im telling you right now, you are way off the mark buddy, will you be coming around come week 5 or 6 and telling everyone how wrong you were? i doubt it. You will probably post (if at all) that wow! what a surprise, I thought we really sucked, but guess what, we are improving! :sleep: I for one wont be listening to any of you.
If we're showing improvement by mid-season I'll admit with great happiness that I was wrong. But I still don't see playoffs this year.
 
finfan54 said:
Hs anyone consisdered that Linehan doesnt like what he sees in Feeley and has to run dump off plays for his fragile ego?
I'll consider it when you tell me how calling plays that have been one of Feeley's weaknesses can be intended to help his ego.
 
finfan54 said:
the point here is that Gus is not really to blame. I think coach Saban has pointed that out quite right.
All I was saying is that when he was the starter with the Skins, there were many fans saying that he sucked. So when people here say the same thing, it brings back those memories. That's all. I agree that it's a team game and everybody must do their role, but that really has nothing to do with my statement.

Also, the way that I interpreted Saban's comments was that it was hard to evaluate the QB with the O-line, TE, WRs not playing very well. Not so much as to say that it wasn't Gus' fault. Just my read.
 
I understand the post Infins. But do we not all know that no matter how Feeley or Frerotte play this year we are going to pick a QB to groom next year. Neither has shown to be a capable starter for a NFL team. These coaches have been doing this longer than any of us and have a better understanding of players and the players they have currently on the roster. So if we knew we would finish with the same record starting either QB then we should start Feeley. But if we are looking at Long term solutions and knowing we are going to draft a Qb, unless somehow Feeley goes to the Probowl, which I don't think will happen, IMO, why not start the player who would give us the best chance to win. I'd much rather go 8-8 or 7-9 with Gus or Feeley if they gave us the best chance. But to give Feeley on the opinion of giving him his due or so we see what we have and then go 5-11 and a top five pick will hurt us more in the long run. We can't afford to have tons of high picks. It screws you in the cap. I'd rather have the guy who the coaches and the team believes we will win the most with, even if its only one more game. That one win could save us lots in cap dollars which we need to build the proper depth. I believe that in fairness to competition, Feeley should get the start against the Bucs unless Saban does not believe that he is capable of playing against 1st stringers. Then we compare Pitt game against the Bucs game and choose a starter. The player who gives us the bes chance to win this year because neither of these QBs will be long enough to consider them Long term solutions. That what I think.
 
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