Feeley's better than Gus or Saban's an Idiot

[JAcK o D1AmonDs]

I kno Aj is better he doesnt get any chances

 

[His'nBeatYour'n]

Actually, your argumentation is far from correct. Clearly an infallible coach may leave a QB that sucks on the roster for many reasons. Say what it is you want to say to the people that think Saban is error free or that likel Feeley. Why have them play a game or answer a poll to set them up. Spit it out already.

I think Feeley has been kept because we need him as a backup for our career backup. I think Saban should have gone QB and done what it took to go #1 in the draft. We may never be that high again.

By your logic the statement: Feeley "sucks"
is equal to the statement: Feeley is a career backup.

In what world does a good coach want any player that "sucks" on his team?
Much less compete for the most important position on the team: Starting QB.

My argument is rock solid. Whether the coach is perfect or not, the fact that he would allow any player to compete for a significant role on his team indicates that that player does not "suck". If he "sucked" he would be cut.

Feeley may be a career back up, and him starting on Sept. 11 won't disprove that, because Gus is not significant competition. I'm not trying to convince anyone that he will be the next great Dolphin QB. My opinion is that Saban should do what Wannstedt didn't, put the clear career backup (Fiedler/Frerotte) on the bench, and let AJ get more experience before making a final determination on him.

I'm not trying to set anyone up or play games. I'm trying to get people to think. And if you think that an infallible coach would start a QB that "sucks" then it is clear that I still have a lot more work to do.

 

[rainmaker1313]

explain...
I don't mind being misleading but I don't see how I am.

WHAT?????:shakeno:

 

[touborg]

Don't forget Detmer!!!:rofl3:

Oh but how could I forget the quality QB that put Feeley at the 3rd spot in Philly!

Remember the number of teams Spielman had to fight for that 2nd rounder? And by team(s) I mean 0. No one even tried to outbid us because if he does anything more than back up the rest of his career, it will equal pigs flying.

Come to terms with it can quit crying on the boards.

 

[PhinBeck]

Oh but how could I forget the quality QB that put Feeley at the 3rd spot in Philly!

Remember the number of teams Spielman had to fight for that 2nd rounder? And by team(s) I mean 0. No one even tried to outbid us because if he does anything more than back up the rest of his career, it will equal pigs flying.

Come to terms with it can quit crying on the boards.

Well. I see you were actually on Reids staff in Philli to KNOW FOR FACT that Reid himself was lieing about AJ being teh starter had McNabb gotten injured for a long period of time? Is it because if you acknowledged that it was quite possible teh only reason why Detmer was lusted where he was was so he could be active to hold would dispute your "facts"? You stop whining because noones wants to put a qb guru under your name?

 

[adamprez2003]

All it would prove is that AJ learned the offense much faster than anyone could have expected.

Frerotte is not here because anyone expects him to be the qb of the future... he is just the guy that knows the new offense being put in. That's why this was never really a competition; it's simply not realistic to think that Feeley, in a few weeks, could get to the point where he understands the offense the way the veteran Frerotte does... the way Saban and Linehan would like their field general to understand the offense while everyone around him is still learning it.

This is actually good, not bad, for Feeley's long-term prospects with the Dolphins. Let Frerotte take the bumps and bruises while everybody's learning which direction to go. If Feeley actually learns the offense and has any kind of ability, Saban will certainly get him playing time as the season progresses, knowing that Frerotte cannot be the starter on opening day next year. That way Feeley doesn't get shell-shocked should the Dolphins get creamed coming out of the gate (not entirely unthinkable), and gets his shot with an offense around that knows what they're doing a hell of a lot better than they did opening day.

I mean seriously... I do think the o-line will start to gel and eventually be better than last year... but does anyone think the opening day line is going to help their qb anymore than last year's did? I think starting Feeley opening day is just setting him up to fail.

As long as Feeley shows more long-term promise than Brock Berlin, he will get a shot with the Dolphins, almost certainly later this season. But expecting Feeley to start from opening day isn't realistic, and it isn't even the best thing for Feeley's career in Miami.

I disgaree about it not being a good idea to have Feeley start the season because I think he's tough enough to survive the problems that will probably show up on the offensive line at the beginning of the season. I would say he's shown enough improvement this offseason to warrant a start over Frerotte.

Having said that I too wondered whether that was Saban's intention. Let Frerotte stay in until the offensive line starts to jell and then put in Feeley. I think if Saban decides to play Gus we're going to go 0-3 into the bye week and at that point Saban is going to have to play Feeley. Feeley, still learning this offense is better at this stage than Gus is with the advantage of knowing the offense

 

[phinphan11]

I just hope that we can win our first game...that's really counts, that is.

 

[FinsNYanksFan13]

If Saban sits Gus for Feeley it's because Saban feels Feeley is a better QB and gives the team a better chance to win. Saban doesn't strike me as the type who plays favorites. He's all about winning and he'll do what's right to put the Dolphins in a winning situation!

 

[Finland]

By your logic the statement: Feeley "sucks"
is equal to the statement: Feeley is a career backup.

In what world does a good coach want any player that "sucks" on his team?
.

Because he has NO CHOICES. They are the only two and the best two QB choices we have. He has to go with them and do what it takes to keep to fairly equal guys motivated. Clearly he thinks GUS is better but knows AJ will be the game at some point. Further there are no other QB's to get right now that would help RIGHT NOW. Next year will be different.

 

[NYNCDOLFAN]

I just hope that Feeley starts, I dont see anything better in Gus.

Guy, FEELEY can NOT handle a blitz for his life, He can't read defenses, and he's about as tough as a barbie doll, and with that said is GUS that much better, NO but neither are the QB of the future so we have to live with what happens for this year...

 

[nick1]

I have full faith in Saban, who ever he picks will be the better man for the job

 

[Regina Phin]

This is the dumbest poll I have ever seen on any website ever. And that's saying something. So option 1 is that AJ is better than Gus, Option 2 is....???? I'm not really sure, but I think this would be where you would vote if you wanted Gus to start, and option 3 is just a more derogatory version of number 1. Good job, we were needing another "which qb to start" thread.

 

[NJFINSFAN1]

If Saban sits Gus for Feeley it's because Saban feels Feeley is a better QB and gives the team a better chance to win. Saban doesn't strike me as the type who plays favorites. He's all about winning and he'll do what's right to put the Dolphins in a winning situation!

You hit the nail on the head!!!!

 

[JxM13]

Whatever decision Saban makes will be for the better of the team. I just don't see Frerotte leading the phins to anywhere if he is not the qb of the future. For all I know he could be the career back up that blossoms late into a bonafide qb a la Rich Gannon but it is rare. Bottom line, I believe Feeley will be given a shot this season.

 

[OneHondo]

People are reading more into this QB competition than there really is. IMO Saban is starting Gus right now, not because of his outplaying Feeley but because he has more NFL experience, knows the offense better and has at least one full season as a successfull NFL starter, granted it was a long time ago. I believe this is an admission that neither QB has excelled or shown the coaches they are the long term solution. If Feeley adapts to the new offense and playing behind a weak offensive line he may still replace Gus, but at this point Saban is trying to create an offense with what he has available to work with and is not convinced he has found the long term Dolphin QB solution. Because a previous regime traded a 2nd round pick for Feeley does not mean that Saban has to accept him as the final solution. And since no one else so far has responded to the post so far about Saban blowing it by not doing "Anything" to trade up to the number "1" pick to get a Quarterback, it was well publisized that he did make attempts to trade up but was not willing to trade away the Dolphins draft to aquire the "good" QBs that were available this year. There is a measureable difference between good quarterbacks and great quarterbacks, as all Dolphin fans should know after Dan Marino. Dolphin fans also know that a great Quaterback does not guarantee a Superbowl you must have the rest of the right players in place. Saban has a huge task to develope this team to what he expects including an offensive rebuilding. I am sure it was glaringly apparent to him and his offensive staff that just one year ago the offensive line was completely replaced and there was no veteran presence that was leftover like a Kuchenberg, or a Stepenson, or a Langer, or a Little to anchor this line. Saban has a huge job in front of him including the defense he is converting to a
3-4 from our 4-3 but he has made the most of the players he had available to him everywhere he has coached and I am sure he will do the same here and this post is JMO.