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Hey guys, sorry for kind of disappearing there for a bit, things got really crazy at work and such.
I see things have been getting crazy here too. As I pointed out when we started this idea, I figured this would not easily fly, and is now kind of becoming the monster I feared it to be.
My overall opinion is that a chat room has no chance of working. As I can see as of late that idea has kind of been nixed, and I just want to drive that final nail into the coffin.
The list of 20-25 possible players from each participant is the only real way to do as to not, and really prolong this. However, getting the lists from everyone, along with the amount of work/coordination accompanied with the mods for it would be astronomical.
So with this said there are basically 3 options.
1) Continue as is, fill up spots we want to, and try to at least get a round in just to see how it works. I personally never had the view that it would make it any longer then that.
2) Employ the "pick list" idea and have a few people do a ton of work. Fish-head sent me a message which explained this option very nicely. I personally am not sure if the effort is worth the payoff.
3) Scrap the idea altogether. While this is technically an interesting experiment, its nothing you could not do with a bunch of people online with a Madden Fantasy draft. While the CPU in Madden also does a decent job of ranking/selecting players.

While I would definately be in to submit my list of player I would select, I believe I would have to bow out of being a type of MOD.
As I said I think this has gotten a bit to big for my current commitments right now. I personally am flattered that this wacky idea I had, as sprung so much interest. I thank you all for the input/suggestions/volunteered help. Special thanks to Fish-head, Bahama Fins Fan, Mizfit for really giving them it all and trying to make it work. I know I am the original poster but I have to step down and relenquish all power/decision making to them. I will pop in to comment and suggest things, and am defiantely still up for participating, I personally just can't give this baby the time it deserves.

Again thanks for the support with this.
 
JimToss said:
Hey guys, sorry for kind of disappearing there for a bit, things got really crazy at work and such.
I see things have been getting crazy here too. As I pointed out when we started this idea, I figured this would not easily fly, and is now kind of becoming the monster I feared it to be.
My overall opinion is that a chat room has no chance of working. As I can see as of late that idea has kind of been nixed, and I just want to drive that final nail into the coffin.
The list of 20-25 possible players from each participant is the only real way to do as to not, and really prolong this. However, getting the lists from everyone, along with the amount of work/coordination accompanied with the mods for it would be astronomical.
So with this said there are basically 3 options.
1) Continue as is, fill up spots we want to, and try to at least get a round in just to see how it works. I personally never had the view that it would make it any longer then that.
2) Employ the "pick list" idea and have a few people do a ton of work. Fish-head sent me a message which explained this option very nicely. I personally am not sure if the effort is worth the payoff.
3) Scrap the idea altogether. While this is technically an interesting experiment, its nothing you could not do with a bunch of people online with a Madden Fantasy draft. While the CPU in Madden also does a decent job of ranking/selecting players.

While I would definately be in to submit my list of player I would select, I believe I would have to bow out of being a type of MOD.
As I said I think this has gotten a bit to big for my current commitments right now. I personally am flattered that this wacky idea I had, as sprung so much interest. I thank you all for the input/suggestions/volunteered help. Special thanks to Fish-head, Bahama Fins Fan, Mizfit for really giving them it all and trying to make it work. I know I am the original poster but I have to step down and relenquish all power/decision making to them. I will pop in to comment and suggest things, and am defiantely still up for participating, I personally just can't give this baby the time it deserves.

Again thanks for the support with this.
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Welcome back Jim. Things have got very crazy around here. thanks for giving me, Fish-Head, and Bahama the credit but none of this would have happened without you starting it. So the bulk of the credit shall go to you for creating this whole thing and putting in the work to start it up. While your original ideas had flaws, Fish-Head, i think, has come up with the best idea of the whole 20-25 player list submitting thing. Us three have decided to split the work with each of us getting 10-11 teams to pick for, of course coming straight from the lists submitted. I believe it wont take as much work as you think. the only hard is keeping up with the players that have already been chosen. but if fin-head and bahama stay as active as they have been, this could fly by. im hopefully shooting for the end of april. the original plan was calculated to roughly extend possibly into 2010. that was rediculous and definetly would have lost interest in most players.

So i will be posting a thread in the next few moments explaining more upon the updated finheaven fantasy draft thing. Once again, i would like to think JimToss for creating this whole fabulous idea to pass by the strenuous off-season. Fin-Head for creating the new faster way of drafting and Bahama for keeping the draft order and who's on the clock updated and definetly kept my head on straight. And Ricky for simulating the fantasy games on Madden. If you get a chance, will you please congradulate these guys on a job well-done so far. We arent even half way there and there is alot of work to do. Please visit the new Updated Finheaven Fantasy NFL Keeper Draft. http://www.finheaven.com/forums/f3/the-new-fantasy-nfl-keeper-draft-247294.html#post1062913208
 
nvm, read new rules to draft, I'll come up with my list of 20 before the weekend.
 
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I wish we had a pm when the first pick was due. Who the hell got taken before my pick.
 
burger13 said:
Sorry all....last time I was on there were still a lot of teams to be filled, didn't think this started already. Sorry for holding things up.

1. Detroit Lions- Bahama Fin Fan - Calvin Johnson, Ernie Sims, Jeff Bakus, Donovan McNabb
2. St. Louis Rams- burger13 - Stephen Jackson, Chris Long, Oshiomogho Atogwe, Reggie Wayne
3. Kansas City Chiefs- Emeraldfin: Matt Cassell, Branden Albert, Dwayne Bowe, Justin Tuck
4. Seattle Seahawks-KillerJosh373-Lofa Tatupu, Josh Wilson, TJ Housmanzadeh, Ryan Clady
5. Cleveland Browns- Clownfish-Joe Thomas, Braylon Edwards, Shaun Rodgers, Chad Pennington
6. Cincinatti Bengals- Swantoon- Carson Palmer, Chad Johnson, Leon Hall
7. Oakland Raiders-Dlockz-Jamarcus Russel, Darren McFadden, Nnambi Asomugha -Shawn Merriman LB
8. Jacksonville Jaguars- ADavieDolphin-Rasheen Mathis, Maurice Jones Drew,John Henderson
9. Green Bay Packers- 1 dol fan: Arron Rodgers, Greg Jennings, Aaron Kampman.
10. San Francisco 49ERS-Ricky4Life: Patrick Willis, Frank Gore, Vernon Davis.
11. Buffalo Bills- ciscoholgate: Lee Evans, Trent Edwards, Leodis McKelvin
12. Denver Broncos- SpurzN703 - Brandon Marshall, Champ Bailey, Brian Dawkins
13. Washington Redskins- FINatic 13-Albert Haynesworth, Chris Cooley, Clinton Portis
14. New Orleans Saints- Milldog-Drew Brees, Marques Colston, Pierre Thomas
15. Houston Texans- JimToss- Matt Shaub, Andre Johnson, Mario Williams
16. San Diego Chargers- CedarPhin- Phillip Rivers, Cromartie, Marcus McNeil
17. New York Jets-edwardstoevans-Darrelle Revis, D'Brickishaw Ferguson, Kris Jenkins
18. Chicago Bears- Fish-Head - Jay Cutler, Lance Briggs, Matt Forte
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Orlando Fan- Gaines Adams, Jeff faine, Kellen Winslow
20. Dallas Cowboys- Finsguy939- Tony Romo, DeMarcus Ware, Terence Newman
21. Philadelphia Eagles-Brian Westbrook, Desean Jackson, Trent Cole
22. Minnesota Vikings-FinsFan_in_Iraq: Adrian Peterson, Jared Allen, Bryant McKinnie
23. New England Pats-HBCF4Ever-Tom Brady, Vince Wilfork, Jerod Mayo
24. Atlanta Falcons- rothshunger-Matt Ryan, Roddy White, Micheal Turner
25. Miami Dolphins- Tylerdolphin- Jake Long, Ronnie Brown, Vernon Carey
26. Baltimore Ravens-SwimminInIndy-Ed Reed, Joe Flacco, Haloti Ngata
27. Indianapolis Colts- Mdfinfan06- Peyton Manning, Dwight Freeney, Bob Sanders
28. Carolina Panthers-KDong13 - Steve Smith, DeAngelo Williams, Jon Beason
29. New York Giants-JDOE - Eli Manning, Brandon Jacobs, Osi Umenyiora
30.Tennessee Titans- I MiZFiT I - Chris Johnson, Lendale White, Nick Harper
31. Arizona Cardinals- Outlawd2u - Larry Fitzgerald, Karlos Dansby, Dominique Rogers-Cromartie
32. Pittsburgh Steelers-Dolfan3773: Troy Polamalu, James Harrison, Ben Roethlisberger
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THis would be contingent on working him out and seeing how he is but a healthy Merriman is one of the bes defenders in all of football. There was only one other guy considered. According to reports in mArch, he is doing great. So the Raiders take Merriman
 
GM's 11-21... get on your list of 20 and PM them to me no later than Monday April 20th!!! If you have the stones... Otherwise step aside, this draft is for real football fans only!!! :sidelol: get on it boys!!!!
 
If you have one of the teams 1-10 please PM me your list of your top 25 players and their positions in the order that you want them by Monday. You can later change or edit your list depending on who gets taken.
 
Bahama Fin Fan said:
If you have one of the teams 1-10 please PM me your list of your top 25 players and their positions in the order that you want them by Monday. You can later change or edit your list depending on who gets taken.
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I think you guys have a great idea with these lists and I really appreciate all the effort and enthusiasm you 3 are putting into this. Only thing I don't understand, is why you are requesting our list now if we've already picked. It is very likely that most, if not all the picks will be taken by the time the draft gets back to me at pick 58.

I suggest you guys assign days for each round in intervals when the top 25 list is due. I've posted an example below. Once the talent thins out and most of the teams have their key positions filled, updating those list will become easier for all of us.

Pick#/Due Date

Round 1
6-10/April 9
11-21/April 10
22-32/April 11

Round 2
1-16/April 12
17-32/April 13

Round 3
1-16/April 14
17-32/April 15

Round 4
1-16/April 16
17-32/April 17

Round 5
1-16/April 18
17-32/April 19

Round 6
1-16/April 20
17-32/April 21

Round 7
1-16/April 22
17-32/April 23

Round 8
1-16/April 24
17-32/April 25

Round 9
April 26

Round 10
April 27

.....and so on and so forth until round 22. All lists and list revisements due by midnight eastern time. If someone does not revise their list, you can take from their previous list. If all the players from the previous list has been drafted, that team foreits their pick and doubles up in the next round.

Hope you guys like my suggestions. This way people can plan these list around their busy lives and we can still be finished by mid May.
 
clownfish said:
I think you guys have a great idea with these lists and I really appreciate all the effort and enthusiasm you 3 are putting into this. Only thing I don't understand, is why you are requesting our list now if we've already picked. It is very likely that most, if not all the picks will be taken by the time the draft gets back to me at pick 58.

I suggest you guys assign days for each round in intervals when the top 25 list is due. I've posted an example below. Once the talent thins out and most of the teams have their key positions filled, updating those list will become easier for all of us.

Pick#/Due Date

Round 1
6-10/April 9
11-21/April 10
22-32/April 11

Round 2
1-16/April 12
17-32/April 13

Round 3
1-16/April 14
17-32/April 15

Round 4
1-16/April 16
17-32/April 17

Round 5
1-16/April 18
17-32/April 19

Round 6
1-16/April 20
17-32/April 21

Round 7
1-16/April 22
17-32/April 23

Round 8
1-16/April 24
17-32/April 25

Round 9
April 26

Round 10
April 27

.....and so on and so forth until round 22. All lists and list revisements due by midnight eastern time. If someone does not revise their list, you can take from their previous list. If all the players from the previous list has been drafted, that team foreits their pick and doubles up in the next round.

Hope you guys like my suggestions. This way people can plan these list around their busy lives and we can still be finished by mid May.
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This is by far the idea I like best
 
clownfish said:
I think you guys have a great idea with these lists and I really appreciate all the effort and enthusiasm you 3 are putting into this. Only thing I don't understand, is why you are requesting our list now if we've already picked. It is very likely that most, if not all the picks will be taken by the time the draft gets back to me at pick 58.

I suggest you guys assign days for each round in intervals when the top 25 list is due. I've posted an example below. Once the talent thins out and most of the teams have their key positions filled, updating those list will become easier for all of us.

Pick#/Due Date

Round 1
6-10/April 9
11-21/April 10
22-32/April 11

Round 2
1-16/April 12
17-32/April 13

Round 3
1-16/April 14
17-32/April 15

Round 4
1-16/April 16
17-32/April 17

Round 5
1-16/April 18
17-32/April 19

Round 6
1-16/April 20
17-32/April 21

Round 7
1-16/April 22
17-32/April 23

Round 8
1-16/April 24
17-32/April 25

Round 9
April 26

Round 10
April 27

.....and so on and so forth until round 22. All lists and list revisements due by midnight eastern time. If someone does not revise their list, you can take from their previous list. If all the players from the previous list has been drafted, that team foreits their pick and doubles up in the next round.

Hope you guys like my suggestions. This way people can plan these list around their busy lives and we can still be finished by mid May.
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Actually the real reason we are asking for lists now is to test the commitment of GMs and make sure they are 'in' and also to make sure that once the draft begins it does not come to a dead stop once again if we have to wait on people to submit lists... Just want to get it rolling and keep it rolling...

But since this is largely a 'work in progress' and we are just trying to get it going efficiently all ideas are wellcome... We just don't want to get caught in the same game of holding everything up while we wait for someone to submit... The schedule is a very good idea and Mizfit was outlining a plan for something like it before, I will approach the boys about it...
 
Sorry for being gone so long. I got really sick and haven't even looked at a computer in days. I will send in a list before monday.
 
Clownfish, good idea, just need you to fix the dates to start the 20th-Monday. I'm at the hospital with my wife having surgery, so I don't know how much I'll be on. Please send your lists for teams picking 1-10 to Mitfitz or Fish-head for now. I don't know how much I will be on. Sorry, things happen. I'm will probably be back when you pick again, but just to be sure.
 
Maybe this is a bit of a stretch but how bout cutting the number of teams to 16 (like only an AFC league) and then assigning two posters to one team. Just a suggestion because getting 32 committed posters is proving to be alot of effort.

Not trying to dump on your efforts so far guys, just throwing the suggestion out there, but maybe starting smaller might prove to be a better option.
 
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