First Head Coach to be Fired
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The dolphins have NEVER been terrible with Tony as coach.
Won the AFC east the first year and in position to make the playoff the last two year.
A couple W's instead of L's in December both years and we'd all be praising him.
Even if we go with what we got now we'll be competative and it will come down to the last 3 or 4 games.
This year we play all those games against division rivals.
The point of all this is if Tony can finsh strong and win 9 or 10 games I believe he stays.
If the team folds up agian ...... especillly at home ... , stu gots to Tony.
Sleep with the fishes.
What is disheartening is he couldnt motivate the team enough to win those games that we needed to win to get us into the playoffs.
ckparrothead
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Personally I don't see the point in a mid-season firing. The only reason you do it is if you truly believe Mike Nolan is a good coach. But any bad run that involves a mid-season firing of Tony Sparano would probably HAVE to involve the defense being a lot worse than expected. That in itself kind of damages this idea that the man that ran the 49ers to ruin is actually a really good football coach that afoul of a bad situation, like Belichick.
But otherwise if you know you're going to hire a Bill Cowher or someone like that, I don't see why you fire Sparano mid-season. Firing a head coach is a fairly proven method of artificially inflating your record. A head coach gets fired and it immediately gets the players' attention, makes them really get into every man for himself mode, which isn't really necessarily a bad thing because it makes all the players more hyper-aware that what they put on the tape determines their NFL future, because whatever goodwill they may have developed with the old regime that gave them a feeling of stability and comfort, is now gone.
Why would we want to artifically inflate a bad record? Why would we want to strive for 6-10 when we know damn well we're headed for 3-13 or 4-12? All it does is cost draft position.
But otherwise if you know you're going to hire a Bill Cowher or someone like that, I don't see why you fire Sparano mid-season. Firing a head coach is a fairly proven method of artificially inflating your record. A head coach gets fired and it immediately gets the players' attention, makes them really get into every man for himself mode, which isn't really necessarily a bad thing because it makes all the players more hyper-aware that what they put on the tape determines their NFL future, because whatever goodwill they may have developed with the old regime that gave them a feeling of stability and comfort, is now gone.
Why would we want to artifically inflate a bad record? Why would we want to strive for 6-10 when we know damn well we're headed for 3-13 or 4-12? All it does is cost draft position.
jwmann2
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Marvin Lewis could be gone. He only has one year left on his contract too. Jack Del Rio is another possibility. If Gary Kubiak doesn't get something done in these next two years, he will def be gone. The Texans defense always finds a way to lose games for them.
If we started off 0-4 or something like that, I blieve Ross could fire Sparano. Mike Nolan can coast into the offseason if need be, until Cowher or someone else signs on. I think Ross made it pretty clear that Sparano must win this season, and if we dig into a big losing record early in the season, dont be surprised if it happens.
I think Kubiak gets fired first. Del Rio wont get fired since he just drafted a franchise QB. Marvin Lewis will never be fired- he tried to leave when his contract expired and the owner begged him to re-sign. Coughlin wont be canned until the season is over - and he will retire instead of being fired.
I think Kubiak gets fired first. Del Rio wont get fired since he just drafted a franchise QB. Marvin Lewis will never be fired- he tried to leave when his contract expired and the owner begged him to re-sign. Coughlin wont be canned until the season is over - and he will retire instead of being fired.
You honestly think this is a 3-4 win team? lol
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EXACTLY
I love the Fins but the way they closed out the last two seasons broke my f ing heart
If it happens again EVERYBODY in charge should go.
Chubby
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Please dont laugh, the talent on this team can easily win us 8 games but as history as proven, TS can lose this locker room and things can go south quickly. A 4 win season is not unrealistic.
I honestly feel they are closer to a 4 win season then they are to a 12 win season, would you not agree?
Chubbs
If it happens again Im sure everyone will get canned. When you show you can beat teams like the Jets and Green Bay (Although their whole team was on IR) and can take Pitt to the wire. Then lose at home to teams like Detriot and Cleveland, that is directly related to bad coaching. That shows that the other team studied harder, found the flaws they needed to find, and exploited them better than we were able to do.
There will always be those who claim that you're right. I dont take them to seriously because they close their mind to the future possibility.
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Vegas has us as a 7 win team and they're pretty good at this stuff.
Tony just needs to sqeeze 3 more wins out of the guys and everyone is happy.
3 win team ? I'll take that bet.
Tony just needs to sqeeze 3 more wins out of the guys and everyone is happy.
3 win team ? I'll take that bet.
Slimm raised this point as well and it is absolutely the way to go. My concern is Ross will make an impulsive decision to terminate Sparano and we are stuck relying on Ireland to convince him otherwise.
I love those that try to argue that Cowher is overrated. That in his 14 years as HC he ONLY went to the superbowl twice and won ONLY once. Albeit he played in over 20 playoff games winning more than half of them. Not a very strong arguement.
I can laugh if I want because it is a ridiculous statement/predition.
By "As history has proven...." do you mean Week 17 of last season against the Patriots? Is that the reason why you think this team is suddenly a 3 or 4 win team? What team wouldn't throw in the towel in the last game of the season when there is nothing on the line? "As history has proven", Sparano has never won less than 7 games and "As history has proven" he has a winning record after three seasons and a division title. On paper this is the most talented team under Sparano so that is why the prediction of 3 or 4 games is ridiculous.
This team won 11 games in 2008 with far less talent, so no I do not agree that this team is closer to 4 wins than 12. I don't think they will win 12 games or even 10, but they are not a few win team. Also, if you are worried about losing the locker room, just watch some players interviews of the emotion of the players so far during the preseason games. They have a chip on their shoulder and appear to be in Sparano's corner. If anything all these negative predictions and people saying this team is going to collapse is just making the team stronger in my opinion. A lot of people assume the Dolphins will fall apart, so they obviously have the element of surprise this season, something they haven't had since 2008.
In 2008 they had less talent, had the element of surprise and won 11 games. They have their most talented team under Sparano and again have the element of surprise. Watch out.
Forever the optimist (:up:) but two things you neglected to mention. They had the easiest schedule in the NFL as well as Chad Pennington.