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Five reason why the Dolphins will be better than the NY Jets

Kinzua said:
Here's my take:
  • I agree that the Fins have a better QB situation. I really like Matt Moore, and he certainly was a better QB last season than Sanchez. I'm not a Tannehill fan, but if he's NOT pushed into the starter's role and given time to learn and mature, he might be really good in a season or two, so there's potential is there for improvement. I think Miami's big advantage over the Jests is that they don't have Circus Tebow in town. That's NOT Tebow's fault, but rather the fault of the idiot Tebots that follow him around -- and especially the fault of the Jests' FO for inviting trouble.
  • I also agree about the running game. The Jests want to "ground and pound" but they don't have the offensive line or the RBs to make it happen. Their running game was anemic last season (29th in ypc), and it's NOT going to be better this season.
  • I don't think that it's a given that the Miami offense will be better than last season. Sometimes teams don't transition well. Still, Mike Sherman >>> Tony Sparano.
  • I also don't think that the transition to the 4-3 on defense will necessarily go smoothly for Miami. Sometimes the transitions do go well, but sometimes the personnel just doesn't fit. The Bills struggled transitioning from 4-3 to a 3-4, part of it was personnel and part of it was coaching, but now they're back to the 4-3 with Wannstadt. Hopefully, the Phins will have good luck with theirs.
  • That said, the Jets haven't improved their D very much, and it was suspect last season. Their safeties remain issues. Unless Coples becomes a pass rushing beast as a rookie, they probably won't have much.
  • The Jets still have locker room issues that are directly related to Sanchez's poor play and the questionable attitudes of some of their players.
  • Rex Ryan may be a great defensive coach but I'm skeptical about him as a HC.
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I think you did a good job of articulating your points and while I hope that it works out better for us than you project in some areas I can see your logic. We will see.

In my opinion (we'll see how it works out) the deadly combination for NY this year is the combination of what looks to be a weak running game, combined with Sparano's offensive strategy, combined with Sanchez set up to fail with Tebow waiting. It looks like an inevitable domino effect when the running game won't work, Sanchez being forced to pass and being ineffective, followed by the insertion of Tebow to attempt bolster the offensive philosophy. I can see this cycle happening until the NY offense is completely demoralized and the locker room is a shambles.

I am no Sanchez fan but I don't see how he can "win" at this game. In the past Sparano tolerated a bad, prehistoric-philosophy OC and then hired one of the only OC's that was worse than what he had. If he can't recognize a good OC I don't know how he could be one.
 
Kinzua said:
Sanchez had 3 chances to start and win a meaningful game last season and he failed all three times. OOOPS!

Not just this season: see "The Clutch Taco" below.

Really? Gailey was the HC of the Dallas Cowboys at the end of their glory years and took them to the playoffs, getting one last good season out of the likes of Aikman and Smith. He also was a well respected OC in both KC and Miami. He was the head coach at Georgia Tech for five or six years as well.

Sparano was a position coach in Dallas before Parcells hired him to be the Fins' HC.



How has the OL improved? Adding 2 street FA OTs this week and drafting a guard in the 6th round while letting the only veteran OL sub walk in FA hardly constitutes "improvement". Maybe they'll be healthier, but then again, maybe not

Rex Ryan may be a great defensive coach but I'm skeptical about him as a HC.

I'm with you on that, especially considering how out of touch he is with his clubhouse and how much of an embarrassment his lack of self-control is to the team - even beyond scoreboard.

The fact is that in 09, he took a 9-7 team and ended up 7-7-2. As such, he didn't deserve to do anything other than plant his fat azz in the lazy boy to watch teams that actually earned the post season play. I'm certainly not impressed by beating a dead team walking who went 3-4 outscored by 37 points having beaten no winning teams in their last 7 games in Cinci, and then doing as little as possible in SD and letting that choking coach and kicker beat themselves - but even so, just barely by 3 pts!. The azzwhipping that the real Colts administered in the last 31 minutes 24-0, confirmed that at best they were an 8-8 team without the Salvation Army contribution. Can't take 2010 away from them, they did well. But of course back to mediocre in 2011. AFAIC, Rex had at best 2 mediocre .500 seasons sandwiched around one good one. That's nothing to write home about.
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nyjunc said:
not w/ him playing like he did late in 2011 just like they wouldn't have had a chance if Eli was playing like he did in 2010 but 2010 Sanchez? they easily still win the SB.

well respected for being a nice guy and haveing mediocre offenses.
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With all due respect... Sparano will have to improve a lot to get to the mediocre offensive level.
 
it's so sad that we have access to so much info and more knowledgeable fans than ever before yet you waste your time w/ silly photoshops rather than learning this game.

I love when people post #s w/o context, any semi-knowledgeable football fan who watched the SD playoff game would tell you sanchez had a good game and made plays to win but b/c it doesn't say so on the stat sheet the less knowledgeable fans think he sucked. It's embarrassing.

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tazthenomad said:
Vaark,

Between this and the "sandwich" post you are setting a pretty high bar for graphics. Are you trying to moonlight as an ad designer? The graphics are funny and well done!
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He is excellent at posting excuses, discussing football is where he struggles.
 
nyjunc said:
it's so sad that we have access to so much info and more knowledgeable fans than ever before yet you waste your time w/ silly photoshops rather than learning this game.

I love when people post #s w/o context, any semi-knowledgeable football fan who watched the SD playoff game would tell you sanchez had a good game and made plays to win but b/c it doesn't say so on the stat sheet the less knowledgeable fans think he sucked. It's embarrassing.

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He is excellent at posting excuses, discussing football is where he struggles.
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Seriously... does "semi-knowledgeable" mean someone who agrees with you?

I agree that graphics aren't a substitute for knowledge but Vaark organized his thoughts and knowledge into a format that it could be integrated into graphics. You are passionate and I read what you say but some of your posts are just cut and pastes which repeat the same thing over and again.

You use a circular logic in defending Sanchez. Stats mean something when they support him and when they don't you cite intangibles. I am NOT saying intangibles are unimportant but when others use your tactics you question their logic. You can't have it both ways.
 
tazthenomad said:
Seriously... does "semi-knowledgeable" mean someone who agrees with you?

I agree that graphics aren't a substitute for knowledge but Vaark organized his thoughts and knowledge into a format that it could be integrated into graphics. You are passionate and I read what you say but some of your posts are just cut and pastes which repeat the same thing over and again.

You use a circular logic in defending Sanchez. Stats mean something when they support him and when they don't you cite intangibles. I am NOT saying intangibles are unimportant but when others use your tactics you question their logic. You can't have it both ways.
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semi-knowledgeable mans people that understand the bsics of the game but don't truly understand what they are watching. Someone bashing Sanchez for the SD playoff game has no idea what they are watching.

I think Vaark knows more than his jealous ramblings show, if he could be objective he'd look much better but his irrational hatred of the Jets clouds his judgement and makes him look silly.

I like vaark, I have fun w/ our back and forth but some of the stuff he posts is pure unintentinal comedy.
 
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nyjunc said:
it's so sad that we have access to so much info and more knowledgeable fans than ever before yet you waste your time w/ silly photoshops rather than learning this game.

I love when people post #s w/o context, any semi-knowledgeable football fan who watched the SD playoff game would tell you sanchez had a good game and made plays to win but b/c it doesn't say so on the stat sheet the less knowledgeable fans think he sucked. It's embarrassing.

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He is excellent at posting excuses, discussing football is where he struggles.
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No context? I just posted essentially the graphic version of a factual word document where in detail I debunked all your bull**** about Sanchez carrying the jest anywhere, and how, despite being enabled and coddled, he still crapped the bed in both 09 when he had a legitimate chance to get into the playoffs by beating a dead ATL and then 3 straight times, big time in 2011 when he was 8-5. Hell, I even showed that despite 2 teams conceding the win in 09, he still stunk against the scrubs. Get used to seeing it anytime you try to insult our intelligence that Sanchez is anything other than a lower tier QB in this league.

I know that reality is a buzzkill for you and your bull**** spins, (especially where stats don't tell the whole story unless selectively they favor the jest or go against the Fins), but really dude, if you think you have any serious football credibility left on this site after contending that Sanchez carried his team, the jets have ever been let alone are still an "elite" team, that you wouldn't trade Sanchez for Schaub, let alone for Rivers or Ryan and that Eli is not an elite QB, you're really deluding yourself about who's talking football vs who's spinning like a whirling dervish! The fact of the matter is, anyone who embarrasses you by showing you don't know what you're talking about you label as uneducated and il informed. Only the few toadies who agree with you, mostly H8Rs around here are supposedly the only ones who know what they're talking about, right?

This ain't the puke green gang.. around here you're not fooling anyone despite the OCD "lastworditis" and parsed talking points. Sorry to disillusion you.




 
you posted stats and skewed the wording to match your jealous thoughts.

The sad thing is you fool people simply b/c they also hate the Jets and like the dolphins. It's sad.
 
i am not scared of the jets. BRING THEM ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we do have a pretty good chance to have a better record than them this season. many dolphin fans believe sparano was not utilizing the roster correctly, poorly coached and conditioned team.

and now... he's the OC for the Jets!!!!! hahahahahaahhahahahahahahaha

only team to worry about is the pats.
 
It wasn't long ago when Dolphin fans argued w/ me how much better of a coach Tony was than rex. My how quicly times change:lol:
 
nyjunc said:
It wasn't long ago when Dolphin fans argued w/ me how much better of a coach Tony was than rex. My how quicly times change:lol:
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Which Dolphin Fans? Call them out by name or shut you damn toe hole already there Rex.
 
nyjunc said:
Vaark for one, I would say you but you never discuss football. Your are on this board to only comment on me.
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that's true.. because Tony took a 1-15 team and orchestrated the greatest turnaround in the history of the league, winning the division when 3 teams won 9 or more games, vs Rex who took a 9-7 team and turned it into a 7-7-2 team or 8-8 at best as the indy starters proved by outscoring them 45-27 when they were actually trying.

So yes, Rex is better than Tony, but a coach who legitimately had 1 winning season out of 3 is still in Rich Kotite Philly territory (and we all know how that one worked out).
 
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