Five reason why the Dolphins will be better than the NY Jets

[sm0kinfins]

Vaark for one, I would say you but you never discuss football. Your are on this board to only comment on me.

One name... Definately sounds like "Dolphin fans" to me. :rolleyes2:

You're right, my almost 1300 comments here are only about you.

I've never actually seen you discuss football here. It's all just "Snatchez is God even though he's statistacly one of the worst in his era because stats mean nothing unless they work for me" and back handed jabs at Miami. No one "discusses" anything with you. They try to speak reasonably with you on various topics but always walk away thinking "can dude really be this dense or did I just get trolled?"

So yes, I call the troll out on occasion. Get over it. :3w:

 

[nyjunc]

that's true.. because Tony took a 1-15 team and orchestrated the greatest turnaround in the history of the league, winning the division when 3 teams won 9 or more games, vs Rex who took a 9-7 team and turned it into a 7-7-2 team or 8-8 at best as the indy starters proved by outscoring them 45-27 when they were actually trying.

So yes, Rex is better than Tony, but a coach who legitimately had 1 winning season out of 3 is still in Rich Kotite Philly territory (and we all know how that one worked out).

Your 2008 road was much easier than our qtr and a half of backups against Indy and Tom Brady didn't play and Brett favre choked away our season BUT Miami did earn it, your team played well and beat teams they should beat. Tony also did a great job but to compare what he did to what rex has done is silly, even w/ your insane ramblings against the Jets. 4 playoff wins in 3 years, Miami has 4 playoff wins from 1994-2011.

 

[DuderinoN703]

I love when people post #s w/o context, any semi-knowledgeable football fan who watched the SD playoff game would tell you sanchez had a good game and made plays to win but b/c it doesn't say so on the stat sheet the less knowledgeable fans think he sucked. It's embarrassing..

Who knew throwing 1 TD and 1 INT with 100 yds was considered to be "had a good game"?

 

[CalDolFan10x14]

Only in Juncland would a team who went 8-8 last year be considered "elite", but a QB who's won 2 Superbowls is NOT an elite QB. This should tell you all you need to know about his opinions. :D

 

[sm0kinfins]

Who knew throwing 1 TD and 1 INT with 100 yds was considered to be "had a good game"?

Was this with or without pressure? Because that's relevant ya know! His spin will be directly in proportion to how much or how little pressure was on the taco at any given moment during the game.

 

[nyjunc]

Who knew throwing 1 TD and 1 INT with 100 yds was considered to be "had a good game"?

Those that know the game. I bet if he threw for 300 yds and didnt make plays to win you guys would say he played well. It's about making plays to win and he did that.

Only in Juncland would a team who went 8-8 last year be considered "elite", but a QB who's won 2 Superbowls is NOT an elite QB. This should tell you all you need to know about his opinions. :D

I have stated many times the jets were not elite in 2011 but overall '09-'11 they have been elite.

That same QB won 9 games w/ all that talent and threw 25 INts the year before.

 

[Vaark]

Your 2008 road was much easier than our qtr and a half of backups against Indy and Tom Brady didn't play and Brett favre choked away our season BUT Miami did earn it, your team played well and beat teams they should beat. Tony also did a great job but to compare what he did to what rex has done is silly, even w/ your insane ramblings against the Jets. 4 playoff wins in 3 years, Miami has 4 playoff wins from 1994-2011.

Rex has had 1 good season sandwiched between 2 mediocre ones. That includes 1 legitimate trip to the postseason. Doesn't matter that Cinci was 3-4 by the time the jest faced them, or that SD beat themselves, Rex doesn't get credit for those wins because he didn't earn the right to play in the postseason - as borne out by the easy way Indy handled them when they were actually trying.

It's like giving props to a bank robber breaking into the vault in Ft Knox for a job well done - that's at least until you realize that he didn't belong there in the first place. The egregious scheduling made the jest 2009 season as asterisk*-worthy as a Sammy Sosa homerun or Rafael Palmiero hitting benchmark. When you need outside, artificial help to get somewhere, you're really nowhere at all. Claiming credit for 2009 is like Rosy Ruiz claiming credit for winning the 79-80 NYC and Boston Marathons by being fine with her taking the subway. Right now Rex has a lot to prove, especially since he's demonstrated he deosn't know how to develop young, sensitive, very raw QBs or have a pulse on what's going on in his own living room. One good year out of 3 makes Rex and his jest no better than mediocre to this point.

 

[Kinzua]

In my opinion (we'll see how it works out) the deadly combination for NY this year is the combination of what looks to be a weak running game, combined with Sparano's offensive strategy, combined with Sanchez set up to fail with Tebow waiting. It looks like an inevitable domino effect when the running game won't work, Sanchez being forced to pass and being ineffective, followed by the insertion of Tebow to attempt bolster the offensive philosophy. I can see this cycle happening until the NY offense is completely demoralized and the locker room is a shambles.

I am no Sanchez fan but I don't see how he can "win" at this game. In the past Sparano tolerated a bad, prehistoric-philosophy OC and then hired one of the only OC's that was worse than what he had. If he can't recognize a good OC I don't know how he could be one.

This has pretty much been my opinion since the Tebow trade. Sanchez is being set up to fail. Any kind of performance short of All Pro won't be good enough to stave off the Tebots -- and the Jets simply don't have the offensive personnel to help him.

 

[tazthenomad]

This has pretty much been my opinion since the Tebow trade. Sanchez is being set up to fail. Any kind of performance short of All Pro won't be good enough to stave off the Tebots -- and the Jets simply don't have the offensive personnel to help him.

It may be that Sparano and his offensive guidance will kill the development of another QB. Again, I'm no Sanchez fan but it doesn't seem like he will have a chance to succeed. This isn't Tebow's fault either and it may screw him up, too. This situation may accelerate Sanchez's entry into the ranks of backup NFL QBs which may be best for him and the Jets in the long run.

I hope that Henne (who I still think is better and has more potential than Sanchez) recovers from Sparano/Henning/Dabol and gets a real chance to succeed. He may not make it but he deserves a shot.

I'm happy we Tannehill to develop along with a staff that knows offense and has developed QBs in the past.

 

[tylerdolphin]

It wasn't long ago when Dolphin fans argued w/ me how much better of a coach Tony was than rex. My how quicly times change

Pretty sure not me. You know damn well I have absolutely no problem with calling the Dolphins and their players/coaches out on their ineptitude when its warranted and I think things through. What Im saying about Sanchez is basically common sense.

 

[DuderinoN703]

Those that know the game. I bet if he threw for 300 yds and didnt make plays to win you guys would say he played well. It's about making plays to win and he did that.

The stats of Sanchez vs San Diego are real. Your hypothetical 300 yds and no plays isn't important to this discussion.

I'll bite anyway. Who throws for 300 yds and makes absolutely no plays anyway?

I have stated many times the jets were not elite in 2011 but overall '09-'11 they have been elite.

Who also knew you could be considered elite over a three year span when in one of those years, the most recent one, you aren't elite? All of this without even getting to the Super Bowl.

 

[DuderinoN703]

Was this with or without pressure? Because that's relevant ya know! His spin will be directly in proportion to how much or how little pressure was on the taco at any given moment during the game.

I imagine the Jets have played in a game with pressure from Day 1. You know, Rex Ryan brings that out in his team and all. And it's New York. Blah blah blah

 

[The Goat]

After reading much of this thread, it's evident that most of the "point making" relies on interpretation of statistics and passing off opinions as facts.

I will state one thing that is not debatable. I have laughed out loud twice at personnel moves that the Jets made.

The first was the hiring of Rich Kotite as a head coach.

The second was the hiring of Tony Sparano as an offensive coordinator.

I can't wait until the New York media starts ripping into the offense for lack of execution. I pray that they try to mix the Wildcat into the offensive scheme. It was utterly painful to watch the Fins get into an offensive rhythm, then have it derailed by a Wildcat sequence. Watching that happen to the Jets would just warm the ****les of my heart.

 

[NYPhin24]

#5 Overall Traded Up For QB

Career- 53.3% Completion (below average to bad)

Career- 55 TD / 51 INT (below average to terrible)

Career- 17 Fumbles (below average to turnover machine)

Career- 73.2 QB Rating (below average to bad)

irrefutably below average to bad all around

 

[Tunaphish429]

Lmao thru this whole thread...Gotta love it.