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Frerotte play by play

Dudeman said:
I just think its funny that 2 Feeley huggers had to post play by plays for both QBs, as to give their opinion on why they think AJ is great credibility
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Yep that is their opinion mixed with the plays, so what? Because they differ from YOUR opinion somehow makes them less valid? Oooookkkkkkkk. Sorry but Aj didnt play as poorly as the "haters" want to make it seem.

You want some objectivity? Gus is ahead right now, why? He is more poised in teh pocket, more comfortable. AJ played fairly well, it was under heavy pressure he seemed to get happy feet. Something he needs to greatly improve on or he shouldnt start.

But to simply act like Gus was great and AJ blew is bogus. Gus played against 2nd team, was greatly helped by a magnificant catch by Gilmore and some late holes being opened by teh running game and less all out blitzes, quick throws.
 
Its great to see fans of the same team get at each other's heads.
 
cltchperf said:
That was a good throw to DT, I'm not the guy that has been saying Feeley sucks, unlike some people on this forum, I think he did ok, but I think Frerotte did better.
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Fair enough. Alot have said that which blew my mind. I think all the QBs played well and if you read sabans press conference he says the coaching staff didnt respond to the Bears defensive scheme until the 2nd quarter which partially explains why the Bears pass rush for the most part disappeared on Frerotte's 2nd and 3rd drives
 
adamprez2003 said:
In terms of nitpicking you saying Feeley throws the ball at lineman's backs is somehow glass half full right? I guess that throw to DT was just a mirrage
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The reason I pointed that out was becuase Feeley made throws like that last year when pressure was on, and it got my attention, because it could've easily been intercepted and taken bakc for a TD like last year. Hopefully he improves on his pocket presence and doesn't panic when the pressure comes, and makes good decisions instead or careless ones
 
adamprez2003 said:
Fair enough. Alot have said that which blew my mind. I think all the QBs played well and if you read sabans press conference he says the coaching staff didnt respond to the Bears defensive scheme until the 2nd quarter which partially explains why the Bears pass rush for the most part disappeared on Frerotte's 2nd and 3rd drives
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He had multiple blitzes coming at him for his first drive, and in the second, the quick passes to Gilmore or no.40 were when the blitz were coming at him.
 
Read Sabans press conference, he stated that as teh game wore on they adjusted their offensive plan as a result of teh blitzes. They didnt gameplan, which is norm, they reacted after they got into teh game.

Not making excuses, saying fact from sabans mouth. Nor does it disprove Gus is ahead, he is. But his chance against the 1st team is Saturday where there arent any adjustments yet based on what they are doing since no gameplan is involved before we get gaga over Gus.
 
cltchperf said:
He had multiple blitzes coming at him for his first drive, and in the second, the quick passes to Gilmore or no.40 were when the blitz were coming at him.
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Exactly. That was the adjustment Saban was talking about. The offensive scheme was longball in the 1st quarter and the coaches adjusted in the 2nd with more quick hits. Thats part of the reason the pass rush disappeared there wasnt time to get one. Look at the receiver patterns that were in when Feeley was in and compare them to the ones that Frerotte had on his 2nd and 3rd drives. Under Feeley the patterns were longer and took longer to develop, under Frerotte there were slants and passes to the flats. That was a coaching adjustment. The only drive that Frerotte had to compare directly with what Feeley had was Frerotte's first drive where all the patterns were deep. The results were the CC catch, an overthrown pass to CC and a sack
 
yeah but Frerotte checked the receivers, whereas as Feely would stare down a reciever, I think Frerotte did a better job at finding the receivers and reading the blitzes, and he wasn't really off, on his throws, some of throws were tough ones, he did good though, Feely didn't do to bad either but Frerotte outplayed Feeley. I don't care who starts with Frerotte or Feeley as long as one of them show they can play well, and move the chains, Frerotte has showed that for this game, maybe Feeley will rebound next game, I hope both guys do well. the routes for feeley were not much longer he threw some mid range passes to Booker
 
Dolphin1184 said:
Its great to see fans of the same team get at each other's heads.
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Carefull! Don't stick your hand in there... you just might lose it. :tongue:
 
cltchperf said:
yeah but Frerotte checked the receivers, whereas as Feely would stare down a reciever, I think Frerotte did a better job at finding the receivers and reading the blitzes, and he wasn't really off, on his throws, some of throws were tough ones, he did good though, Feely didn't do to bad either but Frerotte outplayed Feeley. I don't care who starts with Frerotte or Feeley as long as one of them show they can play well, and move the chains, Frerotte has showed that for this game, maybe Feeley will rebound next game, I hope both guys do well.
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I just rewatched the tape of Feeley to see what his other options on his four incompletes were. On the DT pass he had two receivers in the flats for approximately 3 yd passes. He chose to throw to DT twenty yards downfield and hit him in the hands. Cant complain with his decision making there. On the pass into the line, it was hard to tell but it looked like they were supposed to set up a screen that got completely screwed up. On that play Feeley looked right turned and threw it at the feet of the OLine next to I think Williams. On the pass at Chambers feet there was a receiver on the right who ran a ten yard pattern that Feeley could have possibly hit if he had looked right. There were three options on the left with none of them open other than Donald Lee who if he actually held on to the ball would have gained one yard. On Feeley's last play the sack, he might have been able to hit Evans short
 
Well...heres my two cents..

Both Qb's had moments when they looked really good...and both QB's could have made better decisions at times. In my mind..AJ threw the better ball...and Frerrotte looked a little more comfortable in the pocket. Now that being said....Im an AJ supporter so I still think he is our better choice...WHY??? you might all ask...

Heres the short and sweet of it. If we can all agree that the Super Bowl is not in the cards for us this year...and since QB is such an important decision...or could be based on next years draft...than why wouldnt you start Feeley to see how he plays over the course of the year.

Frerotte knows this system...yet really honestly even you Guskateers can admit he hasnt really outplayed Feeley. Or if you think that..you cant back it up with any real data. Feeley is neck and neck..while learning a new offense. Whats that tell you? Frerotte will never be our answer at QB. You cant fairly say that about Feeley. You cant. He looked good enough yeasterday that you have to reserve judgment based solely on football..not your preferrence.
 
adamprez2003 said:
I just rewatched the tape of Feeley to see what his other options on his four incompletes were. On the DT pass he had two receivers in the flats for approximately 3 yd passes. He chose to throw to DT twenty yards downfield and hit him in the hands. Cant complain with his decision making there. On the pass into the line, it was hard to tell but it looked like they were supposed to set up a screen that got completely screwed up. On that play Feeley looked right turned and threw it at the feet of the OLine next to I think Williams. On the pass at Chambers feet there was a receiver on the right who ran a ten yard pattern that Feeley could have possibly hit if he had looked right. There were three options on the left with none of them open other than Donald Lee who if he actually held on to the ball would have gained one yard. On Feeley's last play the sack, he might have been able to hit Evans short
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I think Feeley will do better next game, I think Ferotte played prettygood though, Feeley ok. I never said or thought Frerotte played great or Feeley played bad. If you are like this with Frerotte's performance, I can't imagine how you were when Fiedler was playing the past couple years, he thrwe a ton of sloppy bad passes that some how got to the receivers and made really awful throw, Fiedler made me quite nervous at times, but seeing how picky you are with players you must've have been hyperventillating when you watched him play.
 
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