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From What I Hear About Rosen

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I hear he respects intelligence and gravitates towards it and he has very little patience for someone that is not serious enough about the subject at hand. Enter Fitz with his Harvard background! Maybe just maybe this duo can work and Rosen can learn from a pros pro? I get it Fitz is basically a journeyman qb but he is an intelligent one that Rosen just might respect enough to value his experience. What do you guys think?
 
jreg1 said:
I hear he respects intelligence and gravitates towards it and he has very little patience for someone that is not serious enough about the subject at hand. Enter Fitz with his Harvard background! Maybe just maybe this duo can work and Rosen can learn from a pros pro? I get it Fitz is basically a journeyman qb but he is an intelligent one that Rosen just might respect enough to value his experience. What do you guys think?
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We could have set up our first gay marriage!
 
If Rosen is intelligent, he has to accept that he isn't always the smartest person in the room.

He has the tools to be successful. Can the staff get his attitude right? That is the 6 million dollar question.

If this works out, we save 2 years on a rebuild. If it doesn't, meh, it didn't cost that much to find out.

I'd say the odds are against this being the coup of the decade, but you can't win the lotto, if you don't buy a ticket.
 
It weird because Jo's Rosen has been the first one in last one out since he got to Arizona. The media created the idea he was an issue, which is far from the truth.

Last year I heard his comments regarding issues and he seemed he very intelligent and very thoughtful about his answers.

There was a period his first two hears where he came off as "bratty" but since then as been anything but the opposite.

I'm interested to see if he can learn this offense because it seems like the kind of challenge he excels at.
 
RT is an intellectual as well and I always thought that was a positive.

What really matters though is how you integrate yourself with a room full of guys who are for the most part, meatheads. I say meatheads endearingly, fully aware that many of them are smarter than I.

That’s where RT really failed. He couldn’t manafacture leadership with guys who didn’t really know him outside the building. I think Aaron Rodgers has really failed in the same way. He let a whole decade go by without a 2nd title. I say that fully recognizing his ability and just being bitter that he hasn’t dented Tom Brady’s throne despite being a better individual player.

Jarvis Landry could’ve saved a lot of people’s jobs. Again, I say this as someone who was in favor of trading his last year after his salary demands were revealed. But a year or two earlier a modest extension could’ve been possible if RT interveneed.

If Landry had been drafted by New England, he’d be nearing talks on his third NFL contract by seasons end.

In hindsight we needed Landry to leave last year in order to start over with people who understand teamwork.

Josh Rosen needed to be somewhere he had the best chance at success. Miami is that place.
 
Mach2 said:
If Rosen is intelligent, he has to accept that he isn't always the smartest person in the room.
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It's usually the opposite. I work with a bunch of smart people. Every one of them think they are the smartest in the room, and work really hard to convince everyone else.

Little do they know, I'm actually the smartest.
 
Seems like a good intellectual match in tbe qb room I agree.

But I’ve also heard rosen loves to be challenged with gameplan etc.

Last night I heard that Larry fitz walked up to rosen in the cards facility about a week ago and told him if he keeps working like he was doing at the time he would be “just fine” in terms of his pro career.

Larry fitz probably knows if someone’s gonna make it or not. Just control what you can control josh.
 
The Ghost said:
RT is an intellectual as well and I always thought that was a positive.

What really matters though is how you integrate yourself with a room full of guys who are for the most part, meatheads. I say meatheads endearingly, fully aware that many of them are smarter than I.

That’s where RT really failed. He couldn’t manafacture leadership with guys who didn’t really know him outside the building. I think Aaron Rodgers has really failed in the same way. He let a whole decade go by without a 2nd title. I say that fully recognizing his ability and just being bitter that he hasn’t dented Tom Brady’s throne despite being a better individual player.

Jarvis Landry could’ve saved a lot of people’s jobs. Again, I say this as someone who was in favor of trading his last year after his salary demands were revealed. But a year or two earlier a modest extension could’ve been possible if RT interveneed.

If Landry had been drafted by New England, he’d be nearing talks on his third NFL contract by seasons end.

In hindsight we needed Landry to leave last year in order to start over with people who understand teamwork.

Josh Rosen needed to be somewhere he had the best chance at success. Miami is that place.
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I don't know about the best chance of success part.

What is apparent to me though, is that Rosen has to realize that it is probably his last, and only chance to be a starting NFL QB.
 
Rosen was 21 last year... maybe 19 when he had the hot tub in his dorm room.

Way less mouthy than most WRs or CBs... and yet, somehow his maturity is being questioned despite the fact that his teammates stood up for him.

Dont give in to the media. Wait... watch.
 
Ren said:
It's usually the opposite. I work with a bunch of smart people. Every one of them think they are the smartest in the room, and work really hard to convince everyone else.

Little do they know, I'm actually the smartest.
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Reminds me of a saying:

“If you run into an a**hole in the morning, you ran into an a**hole. If you run into a**holes all day, you're the a**hole.”

LOL....j/k...I'm also one who "doesn't suffer fools easily" which I think Rosen may be as well as having an abrasive attitude. Hopefully though with everything he has gone through he will come here invigorated and more adaptable in his demeanor.
 
jazz015 said:
It weird because Jo's Rosen has been the first one in last one out since he got to Arizona. The media created the idea he was an issue, which is far from the truth.

Last year I heard his comments regarding issues and he seemed he very intelligent and very thoughtful about his answers.

There was a period his first two hears where he came off as "bratty" but since then as been anything but the opposite.

I'm interested to see if he can learn this offense because it seems like the kind of challenge he excels at.
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Very interesting. I'd like to see some of those interviews, if you could point us in that direction that would be cool
 
Mach2 said:
I don't know about the best chance of success part.

What is apparent to me though, is that Rosen has to realize that it is probably his last, and only chance to be a starting NFL QB.
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Ya, and that’s going to be true of the guy we likely draft next year too. And when you combine Rosen’s 23.4% chance of NFL success and add another 54.8% chance of success for a top drafted QB next year, that’s a 78.2% chance you found your starting QB. Clearly I made those numbers up but as a fan of numbers, stats, odds and gambling, I think my percentages are pretty accurate.

Rosen is either going to be given 10+ games to see what he can do after we start 0-4, 1-5 ish.

Or they will stick to the perceived plan and let Fitz play 10+ games claiming to be bringing Rosen along, then letting him try and impress in 5-6 starts.

If nothing else, Arizona showed us exactly how not to handle Josh Rosen.
 
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