Greg Cote: Tannehill doesn’t need to be great — just consistently good

[DolfanISS]

at least u r smart enough to comprehend if the qb plays well, like yesterday, we easily make the playoffs, unlike some other dude who whenever i bring up that simple concept, will always make it not about the qb, despite being by far the most important position on an nfl team, and will bring up everything else but.

In 2014 it definitely is. I've thought all along the AFC East team that gets the best QB play will be the one that challenges NE, you can throw everything else out. I thought for sure it would be Miami before the season, hopefully it is.


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[Ilovemyfins4eva]

In 2014 it definitely is. I've thought all along the AFC East team that gets the best QB play will be the one that challenges NE, you can throw everything else out. I thought for sure it would be Miami before the season, hopefully it is.


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lets hope so, we deff will need to earn it.

 

[FearTheBeard]

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[Dolfan23]

Cote is correct. Many of us have been shouting this from the roof tops. Yes ... WV included.

I really don't see what there is to argue about. Tannehill is terribly inconsistent. If you believe he has only played well in 1 or 2 games this season, we're looking at 25% TO 50% of the time. That's simply not going to cut it. The problem is, if you look back at his career to date, I bet the ratio is about the same, or worse.

A team can not be successful when their QB is consistent 50% of the time. That, by definition is inconsistent ... unless of course you want to maintain that he's consistently inconsistent, in which case you may have a valid point.

The bottom line is that for Tannehill to be good enough to consistently win games, he has to play consistently well, a consistent amount of the time - a feat that thus far has eluded him. This really is as simple as it gets.

By the way, the same can be said for this coaching staff, WR's, OL, RB's and LB's.

I guess leading the league in receiver drops, being near the top in sacks, having a coach who'd rather bring timeouts into halftime because he's such a ***** and having a new OC who has been crazy inconsistent in his play calling has had nothing to do with Tannehill's results this year either.

Obviously any QB needs to be consistent so this isn't exactly a ground breaking article. But I don't see why we can't give Tannehill the entire season (his 1st in a real offense) before we judge him. I know that's not the Finheaven way so maybe I'm answering my own question there.

 

[DolfanISS]

I guess leading the league in receiver drops, being near the top in sacks, having a coach who'd rather bring timeouts into halftime because he's such a ***** and having a new OC who has been crazy inconsistent in his play calling has had nothing to do with Tannehill's results this year either.

Obviously any QB needs to be consistent so this isn't exactly a ground breaking article. But I don't see why we can't give Tannehill the entire season (his 1st in a real offense) before we judge him. I know that's not the Finheaven way so maybe I'm answering my own question there.

But Tannehill has never been consistent. After Pittsburgh and NE last year I was convinced we had our QB. Didn't even get down after the 2 end of the season losses. This was his first good game since that NE game in week 15 of 2013. Believe me I really hope he keeps it up but can't see how anyone considers that likely.


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[67Stang]

exactly, when tannehill plays well, we win. its simple.

i feel like i have gotten into so many useless arguments on here about what is needed to win. everyone knows the qb is the most important position on an nfl team, obviously everyone needs to do there part, but those numbers that cote throws out in his article do not lie.

when tanny plays to an 85 plus rating, we win, because that means tannehill played well.

its not rocket science, and i am glad cote and most ppl do understand this.

It is also not rocket science to understand that for a QB to play well he needs the help of the offensive line blocking, the receivers getting separation and holding on to the ball, and a supporting running game helps as well. It is just silly to think that any QB having a good or bad game is all on him.

 

[Ilovemyfins4eva]

It is also not rocket science to understand that for a QB to play well he needs the help of the offensive line blocking, the receivers getting separation and holding on to the ball, and a supporting running game helps as well. It is just silly to think that any QB having a good or bad game is all on him.

IT STARTS WITH THE QB THOUGH. IS THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

when the qb plays well, its contagious. why do u think the colts with manning and pats with brady for all those years, and the pack with favre and rodgers, have all had success? it starts at the qb, ur right, everything needs to click, but the qb play is contagious.

ur not going to see wrs have awesome seasons without good qb play, the qb opens up everything.

 

[67Stang]

IT STARTS WITH THE QB THOUGH. IS THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

when the qb plays well, its contagious. why do u think the colts with manning and pats with brady for all those years, and the pack with favre and rodgers, have all had success? it starts at the qb, ur right, everything needs to click, but the qb play is contagious.

ur not going to see wrs have awesome seasons without good qb play, the qb opens up everything.

No it doesn't it starts with the center, then blocking, then the receivers getting separation before the QB even comes in to play. When Tanne has a somewhat clean pocket, he has played well....coincidence? I think not. There is a reason why we had 4 new starters on the OL before Pouncey getting hurt. But ya, it has all been the QB - SMH

 

[Sons Of Shula]

IT STARTS WITH THE QB THOUGH. IS THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND.

Bar stool buffoonery. Classic case of receiving your football education from BSPN, SoapOperaCenter and fantasy football.

 

[67Stang]

Yep, we saw in last years Superbowl what happens when even one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game has no time to throw!

 

[Ilovemyfins4eva]

Bar stool buffoonery. Classic case of receiving your football education from BSPN, SoapOperaCenter and fantasy football.

lol, ur a ****ing joke. typical tanny apologist.

ur right, the qb is not so important, i only think that because of fantasy football, i guess its just a coincidence that every team that is succesfull has competent qb play.

its ok, i know u guys do not want to admit that the qb, at least for now is the focal point of our team, because if things go south, then u guys can blame it on everyone else.

However, if things go up, i am sure we will be hearing how great tannehill is specifically, and very little mention of the team as a whole.

getting called a buffoon by someone on a message board who is clueless is not really that insulting.

 

[Ilovemyfins4eva]

Yep, we saw in last years Superbowl what happens when even one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game has no time to throw!

manning played bad , admittedly so. even when he did have time, he looked shaky.

i guess the reason for the colts success all those years with peyton was due to the stout o line, peyton just benefited. boy, i wish we were fortunate to have such a great o line like peyton did.

its funny how when henne started u always made ****ing excuses for him, there is a trend of u defending bad qb play for the fins. did u also defend john beck, cleo lemon, culpepper, etc? maybe they stunk also because we had no o line, maybe it wasnt really that those guys were so bad after all by ur logic.

 

[67Stang]

Just curious, how did Steve Young do in Tampa and Farve do in Atlanta......or how did Cassel do after leaving NE or Flynn do after leaving the Packers? Yep, it's all the QB though it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the team. LMAO!

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The lack of actual football knowledge on here is mind boggling sometimes.

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Another post I am done with!

 

[Ilovemyfins4eva]

Just curious, how did Steve Young do in Tampa and Farve do in Atlanta......or how did Cassel do after leaving NE or Flynn do after leaving the Packers? Yep, it's all the QB though it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the team. LMAO!

lol favre, u mean the qb who attempted 4 ****ing passes with the falcons? great point about his time with atlanta, big sample size.

this dolphin team is good enough to make the playoffs, the qb underachieving last year is what kept us out of the playoffs. u r just a ****ing apologist for poor qb play,

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Just curious, how did Steve Young do in Tampa and Farve do in Atlanta......or how did Cassel do after leaving NE or Flynn do after leaving the Packers? Yep, it's all the QB though it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the team. LMAO!

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The lack of actual football knowledge on here is mind boggling sometimes.

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Another post I am done with!

u certainly r part of the lack of football knowledge on here.

 

[Dolfan23]

But Tannehill has never been consistent. After Pittsburgh and NE last year I was convinced we had our QB. Didn't even get down after the 2 end of the season losses. This was his first good game since that NE game in week 15 of 2013. Believe me I really hope he keeps it up but can't see how anyone considers that likely.


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Because there hasn't been enough time in the new system to think definitively either way regarding his play. So far he's been inconsistent this year but if anyone expected consistent play out of him the first few games of the season in the new offense then that's an expectation problem.

BTW Brady and the Pats aren't looking so good against the Chiefs and we all know the Bills have a good D. So maybe there's a reason why Tannehill struggled against those 2 teams. That can't continue to happen as he's got to improve against good defenses but I'll worry about that by the end of the season, not 25% through it.