He who shall not be named!

[yankeehillbilly]

True, but let's be serious how much better off would have been with him last year, with that line?

Probably would have won a couple more games. Still likely would have been below .500

 

[Fin D]

Probably would have won a couple more games. Still likely would have been below .500

Exactly.
I'm just saying that the Nipplehead was a horrible coach and a horrible GM. To say otherwise, I believe, is indefensable.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

You really think so? It didnt bother you that we never seemed to make any halftime adjustments? That not only did we never seem to specifically gameplan for our opponents weaknesses but that we also seemed to be unaware of the fact that they would gameplan for us? How about the classic statement after the snowbowl....."the cold and the snow really were not conducive to running the ball"?
Does this sound like Im describing a "good" coach?

I disagree that we never made half time adjustments. I don't agree that we didn't gameplan.

If we never gameplanned, what does that say about the coaches on the losing side of the 41 wins?

Do you honestly believe that the 2000-2004 Dolphins had top 5 talent?

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

Don't even use Holmgren as an example,

Why? because it proves my point.

Please explain what has happened to Holgren's ability to coach.

Holmgren has a SB and Wanny couldn't beat the best teams in the league which you have failed to address.

Another false statement that you make over and over and then back away from when it is proven to be false (only to raise it again in another thread).

Wanny assessed the talent what he had on the field and went for what he thought would help his team on the field without having to answer to anyone since he was the GM.

Just as Holmgren does now. Thanks for supporting my point.

Yes, I agree that having too much responsibilities is not the way to go but even when the GM job was taken away from him, he led the Fins to the worst record of it's entire history. How do you explain that?

LACK OF TALENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Especially on the OL and RB.

How is he considered a good coach when he ran 2 teams to the ground.

AS GM!!!!!

I can find quotes from Mike Holgren praising his coaching efforts in Chicago.

 

[Fin D]

I disagree that we never made half time adjustments. I don't agree that we didn't gameplan.

If we never gameplanned, what does that say about the coaches on the losing side of the 41 wins?

Do you honestly believe that the 2000-2004 Dolphins had top 5 talent?

Yes! We had a number of pro-bowlers in that time and a number of top-10 ranked defenses. Our offense blew, because of Nipplehead. He neglected the line and ran the ball into the ground ask Lamar Smith or Ricky Williams. He stuck with a mediocre quarterback and never opened up the offense. If you run enough you will win games, just not enough to be elite. Not in this era of the NFL.

 

[Mr Yu]

His name should be "Stanpoint" from now on..it's short and to the point.

 

[Mr Yu]

Don't forget - "He who ..." also ruined the Bears with his poor talent evaluation skills! Remember when the Bears had no Pro Bowlers in "He who's" last season there?

He-who the GM could've made a better push at Hasselback as well. Now there's a QB. Instead we get Feebler for five years, and quotes like "What throws can (Trent Green) make that Jay can't make." :rofl3: :rofl3: :rofl3: :fire:

- If you think "he who" is disliked in Miami , go to Chicago and mention him. You'll be lucky to make it out of the city alive.

 

[Mr Yu]

Pitt fans have high hopes for him this year. Unfortunately Im a fan of them as well
Heck, Im just glad he's not with the dolphins. Maybe he will be OK in college

- You were born under a bad moon. After Pitt , look for him to destroy your high school program.:rofl3:

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

WOW!

Forget for a second his horrible track record as a GM. What exactly made him a good coach? Did he have good game plans? No, he had a philosophy that never changed no matter the opponent. Did he inspire his players to play beyond their potential? No, between December fades and lack of playoff success, all he inspired was complacentcy (sp?). Did he ever take a stance on anything other than his flawed philosophy? No.

All your opinion and discounts the fact that they did not have the talent on offense to be more flexible.

Do you even know the team's record in December from 2000 - 2003?

We won games, but never any that we shouldn't of won.

?? Just two examples - 2001 beat the eventual SB champs. 2002 beat AFC SB representative.

He neglected the o-line and stuck with Fiedler, because he knew the offense would never be opened up. I'm sure he's a nice guy and all, but he has zero business being a modern day NFL coach...maybe 15-20 years ago, but not now.

Anyone not willing to bend no matter what is a complete moron and responsible for their own failures.

Consider this, why did we go 10-6 one year and then 4-12 the next with the same talent except at the neglected o-line?

Same talent? The prior two years successes were based largely on the ability of a star RB. HE WAS GONE IN 2004!!!!!!

Consider this, how did we win 41 games with a horrible coach?

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

Yes! We had a number of pro-bowlers in that time and a number of top-10 ranked defenses. Our offense blew, because of Nipplehead. He neglected the line and ran the ball into the ground ask Lamar Smith or Ricky Williams. He stuck with a mediocre quarterback and never opened up the offense. If you run enough you will win games, just not enough to be elite. Not in this era of the NFL.

Please refer to 2000 Baltimore Ravens

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

True, but let's be serious how much better off would have been with him last year, with that line?

Which is a GM problem.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

Exactly.
I'm just saying that the Nipplehead was a horrible coach and a horrible GM. To say otherwise, I believe, is indefensable.

My defense is 41-23. Refute that.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

Yes! We had a number of pro-bowlers in that time and a number of top-10 ranked defenses. Our offense blew, because of Nipplehead. He neglected the line and ran the ball into the ground ask Lamar Smith or Ricky Williams. He stuck with a mediocre quarterback and never opened up the offense. If you run enough you will win games, just not enough to be elite. Not in this era of the NFL.

Somehow a top 10 defense plus a sucky offense equals top 5 talent? :eek: