Here is what i don't understand about Miami's QB drafting strategy over the years...

[Dr. Phin]

Draft one at least every other year and make them earn their playing time, like every other position. You should always have at least one backup QB on the roster that you believe has the potential to be great. If you have any doubt about that move on to the next one.

In 2008 we had Pennington and drafted Henne. That wasn't a bad situation.
In 2009 we had Pennington, Henne and Pat White.
In 2010 we had Henne and Thigpen. I thought Thigpen had some potential at the time
In 2011 is where we ended up with 2 QBs on the roster with little hope of upside. Horrible to not take a QB here. Especially when we passed on Ryan Mallett for Daniel Thomas.
In 2012 we would have realized Henne was a bust and would have to draft a QB once again. Having Mallett might have kept us from reaching, or if the staff thought that much of Tannehill go ahead and take him. Whatevs.
In 2013 Mallett and Tannehill, or whoever we took would be good enough
2014 Maybe time to start thinking about an upgrade again. And if you still like the QBs on the roster pull a Bengals by drafting one and putting him on IR.

And I would add for Hickey to not take a QB is just as bad as what Ireland did in 2011. I've liked a lot of what Hickey has done but that still makes me very angry. It has set us up for the exact same disaster that forced us to reach for Tannehill.

I'll give Hickey a pass this year, but he better be drafting one next year. Tannehill's rookie contract is up after next year...and he is probably not worth what he might be asking. We need some new blood...

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If we're drafting another qb, is he going to be the backup or is that still Matt Moore? If the former, are we really spending a 1st or 2nd rounder for a 3rd string qb?

How long do you think Moore will be sticking around?

 

[bradmcnutt13]

I'll give Hickey a pass this year, but he better be drafting one next year. Tannehill's rookie contract is up after next year...and he is probably not worth what he might be asking. We need some new blood...

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How long do you think Moore will be sticking around?

You got me. He's been here 4 years. He's only 30. Its anyone's guess.

 

[maralieus]

At this point I wish we had Devlin. Not a strong arm but very accurate. Pennington won without a strong arm, but was very accurate.

I think it goes a little deeper than that. Pennington was also extremely smart and dedicated to learning and studying. He was also excellent at scanning the field, reading defenses and progressions. Really, if he had tannehills arm, he would've been a superstar. I agree though that I wish we had at least kept Devlin, he had some potential.

 

[tcdrover]

This is silly, everytime the owner, head coach or GM changes whatever 'strategy' they had also changes.

Everytime that the dynamic between the GM and owner and coach changes that also would change.

The only way that there is an ongoing strategy is if there is stability at GM and HC.

 

[KillerB]

This is silly, everytime the owner, head coach or GM changes whatever 'strategy' they had also changes.

Everytime that the dynamic between the GM and owner and coach changes that also would change.

The only way that there is an ongoing strategy is if there is stability at GM and HC.

Whether it's an intended strategy or not, that has been the overriding theme for about 15 years now. But your point is taken. With each new coaching staff/GM, there is a new perspective and "strategy" that enters the picture. At least that's what you would think.

It's just weird that every regime that is brought in approaches the QB search the same way. Bring in a QB, and only one, and then tie the Dolphins future to that QB for the next 3 or 4 years. A backup plan is never put in place, a second QB prospect is never drafted to develop just in case plan A doesn't work out. It is just illogical. Bringing in more QB prospects increases the probability of finding the right guy, and also cushions against the massive blow when the plan A QB turns into a bust and sets the team back another 3 or 4 years.

And I don't count Pat White as a legitimate prospect, who was intended specifically for Wildcat offense. That pick was a joke, and the whole world knew it as soon as it happened ... except for our regime at the time. That pick still boggles my mind to this day.

 

[KillerB]

Another bad day for Tannehill. I hate to beat a dead horse, but it sure would've been nice if we had drafted some QB in the last draft. Right now there is no QB on our team that has any potential. Very depressing.

 

[Good_Dylan]

And I dont know what it takes to get yanked these days...losing & playing horrible does not get it done thats for sure.

 

[Mogwai]

There's no urgency with how this team is run. Just letting Tannehill's trainwreck play out has been 3 years of everyone's life. There needs to be some sort of drive behind every game and season. Players are risking their health and the primes of their careers as we just dick around and see how things play out, when really we should have known for awhile now and been prepared with an alternate plan.

 

[roy_miami]

There's no urgency with how this team is run. Just letting Tannehill's trainwreck play out has been 3 years of everyone's life. There needs to be some sort of drive behind every game and season. Players are risking their health and the primes of their careers as we just dick around and see how things play out, when really we should have known for awhile now and been prepared with an alternate plan.

Tannehill blows. But this isn't even the worst case scenario for me. The worst case scenario would be he develops into a Jay Cutler and we waste a decade or more, passing on 4 or 5 more Russell Wilson's or Drew Brees' on the way. If we pull him now and have wasted only 2 years and 3 games thats a fantastic result compared to the alternative as far as I'm concerned. I was kind of on the fence about starting Moore but now I think its imperative that we don't even give Tannehill the opportunity to develop into the worst case scenario. Because beyond all of the inconsistencies we're seeing of late I have even bigger issues that go deeper than a few poor plays in a vacuum. He's just not a winner and he never will be unless we put the perfect team around him.

 

[bradmcnutt13]

Tannehill blows. But this isn't even the worst case scenario for me. The worst case scenario would be he develops into a Jay Cutler and we waste a decade or more, passing on 4 or 5 more Russell Wilson's or Drew Brees' on the way. If we pull him now and have wasted only 2 years and 3 games thats a fantastic result compared to the alternative as far as I'm concerned. I was kind of on the fence about starting Moore but now I think its imperative that we don't even give Tannehill the opportunity to develop into the worst case scenario. Because beyond all of the inconsistencies we're seeing of late I have even bigger issues that go deeper than a few poor plays in a vacuum. He's just not a winner and he never will be unless we put the perfect team around him.

Good point. There's zero chance this guy ever evolves into a very good qb.

 

[PCmor]

I think as much as anything that the Dolphins had holes all over the place. They needed starters more than they needed a backup QB, and they didn't have the assets to trade to pile up picks to be able to take another QB in the first 3-4 rounds.

 

[Sirspud]

Tannehill blows. But this isn't even the worst case scenario for me. The worst case scenario would be he develops into a Jay Cutler and we waste a decade or more, passing on 4 or 5 more Russell Wilson's or Drew Brees' on the way. If we pull him now and have wasted only 2 years and 3 games thats a fantastic result compared to the alternative as far as I'm concerned. I was kind of on the fence about starting Moore but now I think its imperative that we don't even give Tannehill the opportunity to develop into the worst case scenario. Because beyond all of the inconsistencies we're seeing of late I have even bigger issues that go deeper than a few poor plays in a vacuum. He's just not a winner and he never will be unless we put the perfect team around him.

I'm not so convinced that it won't end up being a worst case scenario. Philbin may get fired before he benches Tannehill. The interim coach may not replace Tannehill as starter. Maybe the next coach thinks he can "fix" Tannehill, or maybe he is even hired because that is what Ross wants. Until I see someone besides Tannehill starting, I find it too remote to even dream. It took an injury to remove Henne from the starting role, and this was a long time after his performance should have demanded that.