Here's One Benefit To Dolphins Not Giving Tannehill Competition

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  1. DKphin

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    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...aveHyde-blog+(Dave+Hyde+|+Sun+Sentinel+blogs)
     
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    No problem with this we stay focused this year without a QB controversy to cloud the facts. If the facts are ugly then there no excuses for moving on from RT or Gase.
     
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    There will be a QB competition but it won't be public. If Tannehill comes out and ****s the bed from the gate, Osweiler will be our day 1 starter, but that seems less than likely knowing RT17's work ethic and physical prowess(let's hope he still has it)
     
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    Tannehill doesn't need competition. He's a true pro.
     
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    How many teams these days really have QB competition? I don’t think it’s healthy anyway at this point in the guys career. When they are rookies or guys like Fales, ok. But if your 7-8 year guy has to “prove” himself each year that means he likely doesn’t have “it”. I’m ok w no alternative here. The starter needs the support of his HC and to take the reps.
     
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    22 QBs out of top 10 every year. How many of those HCs bring in competition?
     
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    Not many.
     
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    thill17 does need QB competition from nfl point of view.
    from dolphins point of view. they feel thill17 is answer.
    there is nothing that I can post to change Adam Gase mind.
     
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    Competition brings out the best in all of us but at the same time guys like Ryan Tannehill are cut from a different cloth.

    Guys with 17's physical gifts and toughness don't fall of trees.

    I like knowing my QB is the alpha dog.

    And that dog is about to bite back at all who doubt him.
     
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    For the ten thousandth time. In the NFL you don't bring in competition for your starter. You draft back ups until you don't have a starter.
    It's as simple as that. Hopefully you can understand that, maybe not.
     
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    I do not care what you think.. it up to dolphins. they know what there doing.
     
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    My gut instinct is that Tannehill's gonna come out fired up, pissed that he's missed playing time and anxious to show his teammates that the game trully had slowed down for him. Only danger is that he'll try too hard and look for contact rather than sliding etc.
     
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    And they're doing what I said.
     
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    Starters don't need a qb competition. At least not a qualified highly talented one like we have. This whole notion is ludicrous.

    The only competition he needs to get motivated is across the field from him each play. Not on the sidelines.
     
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    To be fair, I'm sure Ryan would handle the situation way better than Big Ben and Flacco are doing right now.
     
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    Hes never had competition, so why start now?
     
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    does not mean it correct way. we will see in jan 2019. the only thing make me happy is winning.
     
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    2 SB winning QBs having an opinion contrary to their FO? How shocking. Yet those FOs are not sitting around thinking like most in this thread do. Baltimore Front Office > Davie Front Office, Pittsburgh Front Office > Davie Front Office. Never mind some of the silliness being posted here is just plain nuts.
     
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    I thank god, that they didn't listen to you.
    If they did, we would have cut Tannehill and signed Cutler to a massive contract.
    Oh and your last post you said they know what there doing, now in your next post you imply that they don't. Which is it Pal.
     
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    I can understand Big Ben but flacco need compettion but they both have ring that my point about dolphins, they are not trying win superbowl....
     
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    Ben has been talking about retiring for the last two years of course Pittsburgh needed to draft a quarterback, and Joe is on the downside of his career. these are no-brainers.
     
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    Actually they are, team has improved even if you believe the QB position hasn't.
     
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    They're drafting replacements not competition.
     
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    Sorry guys but this article is crap, competition brings out the best in a player physically and mentally, and if there is one position that screams for competition on this team it's the QB position. Roethlisberger might not like the drafting of a QB, but that attitude shows why he's not paid to make those kinds of decisions, you never think about your backup QB until you need one.....same as a lawyer. As for Flacco, he's an *** with a declining skill set beating up on a kid by making him uncomfortable, Jackson's just looking for a start to prove himself just like Flacco did.
     
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    if I was gm I would not sign cutler, thill17 or any qb on our roster.
     
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    Pittsburgh has been drafting and trading for QBs for years, not a new thing coming from them. Flacco's on the downside of his career? A SB MVP at 33 is downside huh? Damn, what does that make our iron man qb at age 30 who has never won anything?
     
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    When Ben was in his prime they brought in quarterbacks to back him up not to compete with him. Joe won MVP and Super Bowl like six or seven years ago when he was in his prime also.
     
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    But you love Cutler,,,,,but hindsight is 20/20.
     
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    I wouldn't trust you to run my franchise on Madden.
     
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    Yeah, except Roethlisberger is 36, and that QB wasn't brought in as competition.

    Neither was Flacco's. Neither of those franchises will have a different starter unless their current starter is completely off the team.

    I don't think a lot of people understand what competition means.
     
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    With today's QBs playing into their mid 30s and beyond, ones prime is a sliding scale. I would say Joe Flacco has struggled without a consistent running game and a DECLINING defense. But that hasn't seemed to bother them when Miami plays them.

    As for Big Ben, again they have invested for years at the QB position. While Miami was content on having the highest paid backup QB on its roster who would never threaten or push someone who has never been threatened or pushed at the NFL level.

    But again I say, why bring in competition now, when you have not seen it necessary during the Tannehill era? I really liked what KC did for their QB situation.
     
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    Teams with a QB competition don't have a QB.
     
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    There will be competition on these teams this year at QB:

    Buffalo
    New York Jets
    Cleveland
    Arizona

    But yeah, Miami needs to bring in competition for its QB. Totally realistic.
     
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    Before the age of purple markers and participation trophies, we understood what competition is and should be.
     
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    The bottom few bring in competition, the rest bring in replacements.
     
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    It's not a matter of what he thinks. It's a matter of what really happens in the NFL.
     
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    Alex Smith understood the difference last year in KC, so did the media and the fan base. Yet KC did the prudent thing in the end, IMO.
     
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    Funny, he wasn't the projected starter in his rookie year. He was third on the depth chart. When Garrard went down, Tannehill beat out Moore for the job. So, your premise is FALSE.
     
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    How old is Roethlisberger and how well has Flacco played for the last 4 years? Get a clue.
     
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    Disagree with the entire premise. I like Hyde but he’s not right here. Tannehill has always been at his BEST when personally doubted and thrown into the fire that way.

    He lost the competition with Stephen McGee and subsequently Jerod Johnson at A&M so what did he do? Became an All Conference WIDE RECEIVER while pulling double duty.

    He finally got a shot to play in his fourth year after 3.5 years of eating **** from Mike Sherman, who first kept him benched behind McGee and then Jerod Johnson (neither being NFL players), what happens? Those first four games, Tannehill goes on an absolute tear. It was his chance to tell Mike Sherman, “**** you, you made a huge mistake” and he nailed it.

    Then comes 2014 and probably unbeknownst to Tannehill, Philbin sold him out by requesting Ireland draft Derek Carr. Ireland says no. Then three games into the year after a few bad performances Philbin publicly refuses to name Tannehill the starter. It was big deal. National news. Everyone in the organization heard it. Dan Marino was pissed on Ryan’s behalf. Tannehill wouldn’t say it publicly but he was really pissed. What happens? That very week he goes out there and murders the Raiders in London. From that game thru the rest of the year he had like a 100 passer rating.

    Then in 2016 he struggles as the entire offense is trying to install Gase’s new offense. Fans and media alike after the Titans game start calling for his head. Demanding he be benched. Media won’t stop asking Gase. So Gase says **** you guys, I’m not putting up with this anymore, declares definitively and publicly that Ryan Tannehill has been named the starting QB for the remainder of 2016 hell or high water. From that point on Tannehill has a 100 passer rating, 7-1 record, not taking sacks, running for yards, etc.

    Complacency has always been Tannehill’s biggest enemy. He plays especially well when everyone is trying to shovel dirt over his grave. Had they drafted a Josh Rosen, Tannehill probably has the best year of his career. That’s the way he is.

    Luckily tho, after missing 19 games or whatever with the knee, and being written off by everyone EXCEPT his coach, I think there’s already plenty of motivation there.
     

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