He ends it with, " Do better Ross. Or pass away and let someone else try." Does that not cross a line? I would not have replied at all until seeing that. It is categorically wrong.
Hoops scoops…this front office and qb got to go!
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You spelled "RONG" wright! - LOL
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Tua time!
Hmmm the initial quoted portion is from an Eminem song guess folks didn’t get that.
I don’t want anyone to actually die obviously guess I could have worded it when you pass away someone else can try.
We sign or trade for an actual nfl caliber qb yet?
I don’t want anyone to actually die obviously guess I could have worded it when you pass away someone else can try.
We sign or trade for an actual nfl caliber qb yet?
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Depressing sad read.
All the hype leading into the 20 and 21 draft and truly what building blocks do we have.
We gave up on a all pro left tackle and some seasons to begin the rebuild.
Now to me it seems Grier us untouchable.
The maddening thing to me is this offence would be amazing if we had a good line.
I think we're all frustrated and wonder when it will all end in a playoff victory .
All the hype leading into the 20 and 21 draft and truly what building blocks do we have.
We gave up on a all pro left tackle and some seasons to begin the rebuild.
Now to me it seems Grier us untouchable.
The maddening thing to me is this offence would be amazing if we had a good line.
I think we're all frustrated and wonder when it will all end in a playoff victory .
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That sounds too simple. Realistically, the GM and owner interview HC prospects. I'm certain the following never occurs . . .
ROSS: Well, Chris, I don't like Queasy. Doesn't come across as competent.
GRIER: Too bad, I'm signing him anyway.
Hard for an owner to fire a GM for hiring a HC he approved.
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But here you are participating and complaining.
Always appreciate Hoops' perspectives, but gotta disagree here. I think Grier has been good - not great but just good. Even some of the best GM's only hit on 50% of thier picks. Some of the bad deals we made were risks that didnt pan out, but not taking risks can be equally as bad. I think when you watch other teams that have been successfull, you'll see a lot of parallels to Grier. And anyone telling you there isnt a little luck involed in the draft is full of it.
“Guess who’s back…back again…guess who’s back…tell a friend”
Someone needs to come in here and tell it like it is…and well I’m just that person. As usual if you don’t like it I don’t care.
This franchise now has the longest non playoff win drought in the nfl. Who has been in the building for the duration of that drought I ask you? Why none other than chris me and my brother should probably switch sports Grier.
All he’s done since he became the gm is pass accountability to others. Hemorrhage money on bad contracts and fail in the draft to maximize the return pick asset wise on a yearly basis in the draft.
Now we are stuck with the worst qb contract in football and don’t kid yourself it’s the worst on a guy who may well down the road die even on the field. Instead of forcing Tua to play on tbat 5th year option we gave top money to a qb who while a great person and heck I’d even be proud to have him marry my daughter even which speaks to his character is now has finished 2 of his first 4 years out for the season and likely will finish his 5th year the same way. In addition this qb has fenced twice already on the field and has his head bounce off the turf on a pretty much weekly basis in some form or another. Weight gain weight loss fat as a deer tick tua or weight watchers tua it doesn’t matter. This same qb is now 1- whatever vs the bills and we as a team are now 1-12 in our last 13 vs the bills. We aren’t competition for Buffalo or rivals we are camp fodder like the 3 qbs we have in the building now behind tua. We are buffalos bitch!!!
And now you want to make me watch skylar Thompson butcher the position? Why not just take a hot poker to my eyes instead. Tyler Huntley, Tim Boyle?
In addition this qb tua has played sub standard ball and replace me level ball even down the stretch in each of the seasons he actually has finished. That int into 2 deep coverage vs Buffalo where the safety post snap had the leverage and the route was into the leverage week 18 with everything on the line by tua was more matt moore than franchise qb stuff. It was one of the worst pre to post snap decisions ive ever seen and I broke down qb tape for years.
Miami has no Josh Allen offset I screamed for years about the need for it especially when this qb tua isn’t in an offense that features qb process and is basically very qb friendly but not much qb freedom which is what McDaniel has brought to Miami.
Miami needs to pray that Tua is cleared and retired cause otherwise this contracr will be an albatross for the next half decade with this team and stuck with a qb and offensive system that to this day I still can’t say what level processer he is which was suppose to carry him in the pros. I’ll say the sniffs I have gotten haven’t lead me to believe he should have more on his plate. Given that he’s a system qb in a system that many qbs could run. Just minus the athletic ability that many qbs possess to make teams have to prepare for 2 way threat qbs.
Im sorry Tua but do the team a favor and retire. Take your $47 mil and walk. You weee never getting us over the hump with Josh Allen anyways. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze any more.
Back to the gm. Do I really want to to give this clown another bite at the qb draft apple? Yikes.
Let’s see. Raekwon Davis non existent 2nd round pick gone under your watch. Traded Laremy Tunsil for a slew of picks in a move to get in position for a qb that qb thing has failed. Yeah sure the numbers are there but this teams record vs playoff caliber teams is a joke and shows how much of a pretender we are. They are largely empty numbers.
Liam eichenberg stinks anywhere you put him 2nd round pick fail. Should have cut that years ago instead we start him. Belongs in the ufl.
Tagged Mike gesicki and his 1 catch for 8 yard average paying him north of $10 mil that year when anyone with an ounce of clue knew that we should have let him walk. Addition by subtraction. 2nd round pick fail.
Drafted a position less player in round 3 in the I guess lb Channing tindall. Dudes not even active in year 3 fail. And these are just off the top of my head.
This gms record on day 2 of the draft is a joke. The round one record is not maximizing return either. Yeah we traded out from 3 to 6 and then 12 and everyone tbinks we cleaned house. Well guess out you missed out on better players everywhere along the way. The best draft in maybe my entire scouting career and while you did good you could have done better. That draft has hall of famers written all over it already.
Let’s talk about extending guys when we didn’t need to. Mcd falls in on this too I’m sure. Kicker extension a year early. Fullback who was out of the league the year prior ingold pulls down 3 and 17 mil for what when we control him at least another year. All of these while we controlled them another year or more.
Making Ramsey the highest paid corner when you still control him. Making reek and his off the field never ending concerns a highest paid wr when you control him.
This interior oline which is probably the worst unit in the entire league. A 290 lb center that is owed 5 mil next year regardless if he’s here or not. Sure mcds scheme helps the oline and your banking on it with your smug comments about everyone is worried about the oline but us well how’d that look to you when Buffalo went into a 2 deep shell and you couldn’t run the damn ball situationally despite it? Why? Cause your interior oline sucks.
Get used to it cause one thing I know is this is a copy cat league and they know your interior oline blows. Gonna see a lot of coverage over your 2 Smurf WRs coming. With no offset to be found other than achane who at 188 lbs is being used like Adrian Peterson or something by this dumb head coach.
Speaking of the head coach burns timeouts like my grandpa burns cigarettes. Must be taking hits off his vape when it’s time to get plays in. Wanted Jonnu smith and obj like those 2 clown adds would get this team over the Buffalo bump. Jonnu has always been system based production and obj cares more about his instagram than football these days and will complain to no end if and when he does come back when he isn’t being fed the ball when he’s the backside progression in an offense that doesn’t ask the qb to get to the backside very often. An offense where 80 percent of the primary’s are open by design. Another reason 14 ints by the qb is way way too many. But I digress. This same head coach saved waddle from the week 18 must win home game for the kc playoff where the qb couldn’t execute lateral throws behind the los in those elements let alone anytbing down the damn field. Duke Riley in that game avoided even 2 hand touch and yet he’s still on this roster. Embarrassing. Wonder if you wore them capri pants to that one?
Let’s talk about this last draft if that didn’t scream to you I’m safe as a gm and head coach nothing does. First 2 day picks on projects and a trade for a 4th rb lol. Job well done Grier. Your 2nd round pick Paul has the redirect and short area quickness of an aircraft carrier he already looks more destined to be kicked inside to left guard down the road than to even make it as the active swing 3rd tackle. Fail. Don’t know why I’m surprised these dudes can’t evaluate oline play if their lives depended on it.
We got the smallest skill group in the league smallest catch radius in the league 3rd and 4th WRs feature Robbie I would t choose you in flag chosen alright and berrios who has zero value as a wr option.
This team has failed to get what it needs for the last 2 years more than anything with this size skill a true flex difference maker at the tight end spot. And sure enough when exactly what we need comes along to pair with all this Smurf skill in Brock bowers and he gets out of the top 10 this clown gm is sitting on his hands and clueless. Same for the head coach who should never wear them gold glasses on the sideline again. Go back to the nerd look you will be a vaping oc career guy at the rate you are going in no time.
Which leads me to the owner the corpse who allows these things to continuously happen. To have his money continuously hemorrhaged over and over on bad contracts and bad draft picks and asset and personnel mismanagement. I feel bad for ya Ross but you are being fed a bunch of bs by these folks you appointed. Hold someone accountable step up and force change. Come out and say win or else I don’t care about attrition or any of that you guys built it and you will walk the plank of it doesn’t win. Period. But no I’m fully convinced this front office as a whole is content with being a fringe playoff team and never winning anything if they don’t win the division and get home playoff games. It’s our only chance under this style offense and qb combo and head coach combo. How else can you allow this gm and head coach to come on end of year after yet another fall off the table season and raping at kc no less and drop a smug presser and laughing and joking about it like they don’t have a care in the world.
Do better Ross. Or pass away and let someone else try.
Hoops out
I heard Tannehill is available. Remember the Tom Brady with legs.
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Building blocks: Achane, Wright, Storm Duck, Aaron Brooks (Maybe) Chop, Kader Kohou, Waddle, (hopefully) Ezukanma & Washington, Seiler, Phillips (if we can afford him). Patrick Paul, McMorris, Bonner.
Guys we should trade: Hill, Jonnu, Austin Jackson, Ramsey (might be untradeable due to contract) Fuller, Holland, Phillips (if we can't pay him), Tua (if he's cleared, if the NFL let's him to continue playing, & if anyone wants him), Chubb.
Guys that need to be cut: The rest of the Oline (except Brewer maybe) the rest of the WRs not mentioned above, TE Hill, Poyer (he's played awful, can't believe he's still starting) Jason Sanders.
I used to defend Grier with that argument. Not any more.
He lost me when he not only refused to properly address the offensive line, but laughed at people who told him it was a mistake.
His selling point for the teardown and tank after Gase was that we were going to rebuild this team the right way, through the draft.
Then he took shortcuts and put us right back into the SAME business model we had prior. Trading picks for high priced, and injury prone vets.
I won't defend him anymore.
I dont understand everyone's beef with the OL. We were the best passing team, top 5 in rushing, and top 5 in sacks allowed. And we did it with a lot of injuries and backups. I dont share Finheaven's sentiment that our OL is terrible and needs a makover. Greir was smart to not spend big dollars in free agency on our OL. Our OL is just fine.
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Yes the owner has input obviously, hence I even mentioned Ross. But Ross doesn't make all the roster moves either. Guy is a poor drafter as well, pretty much only gets guys with premium picks picks. Why do people keep making excuses for this guy. Everyone around this guy has been fired for the last 24 years, he is never held accountable. 9 years as a GM 3 HCs and zero playoff wins. We just went through what was suppose to be a full rebuild and came out with an old injury prone team, with flashy high priced players and crap trenches. Guy sucks.
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Because grier gets injury prone guys at o line, wynn and armstead. And puts all his eggs in that basket, yet doesn't look for depth too
Those are last year's rankings.
It's not the same line, and teams have figured us out.
Those numbers will be very different this year without a qb that can get rid of the ball in 2 seconds.