How many here still want to say Richie is the victim

[jvw]

Ill say it. I like Richie. J Martin is a Vagina Quitter. Good Riddance.

Yikes!!! This makes what, 5 teams he's been kicked off.....at least Pac Man Jones eventually figured out going to strip clubs and making it rain was not the place to be on your free time, Richie after being kicked off his 5th team still blames someone else.....

 

[Dick Pepperwood]

Yikes!!! This makes what, 5 teams he's been kicked off.....at least Pac Man Jones eventually figured out going to strip clubs and making it rain was not the place to be on your free time, Richie after being kicked off his 5th team still blames someone else.....

Fair Point Dude. But Martin is still a Flabby Arm Quitter.

 

[thevegasphinfan]

Yikes!!! This makes what, 5 teams he's been kicked off.....at least Pac Man Jones eventually figured out going to strip clubs and making it rain was not the place to be on your free time, Richie after being kicked off his 5th team still blames someone else.....

No Not 5 teams.
after Buffalo he was a free agent. This year he is a free agent. and the dolphins are just not resigning him, more than likely.
And he never really played for Mike Belotti in Oregon, he just failed to do the requirements to play. So really just two teams St. Louis and Nebraska.

 

[phin17]

Cogs was a meat head and Martin was a soft naive momma's boy that has no clue about locker room code. Both guilty for different reasons. Martin was/is not the victim though!!!!!

 

[WesternNYDolfan]

Over the past 4 months I have been reading plenty of post defending Richie as the victim, with most coming in the last couple of weeks...I want to know how do you feel now that the Wells report is out and we have as much information as we are ever going to get to make a determination

IMO Richie is the true snake, he manipulated texts to give the impression he was a caring friend at the same time he was showing his true colors to Pouncey, he leaked more info to the press than Martin did and now we know all of his "I thought we were friends" bull**** was just that bull****.....we now know he was trying to make the kid crack, we now know he was trying to make another OL player crack, while the OL was having the worst yr in memory.....and probably the worst move he made was days before the report he took to twitter to torment his victim one last time for ****s and giggles.....he is truly a bad person and anyone who signs him should be fired on the spot....

Did you actually READ the report? Its all based on academic psychological bull****, placing blame on Cogs for Martins obvious mental shortcomings.

If you can read that report and think Incognito isn't a victim you're a ****ing idiot plain and simple. **** JMart I'm glad he broke him.

 

[JTC111]

No Not 5 teams.
after Buffalo he was a free agent. This year he is a free agent. and the dolphins are just not resigning him, more than likely.
And he never really played for Mike Belotti in Oregon, he just failed to do the requirements to play. So really just two teams St. Louis and Nebraska.

You're painting a much rosier picture than the reality dictates. Go to page 59 of the report.

 

[LANGER72]

Richie was liked by his team mates. He is a good ball player. I could care less if he acts like a fool in the locker room or in a bar.
I would rather have Richie Incognito as a team mate than Martin ...a suicidal and unreliable snitch who is a liability to the team with his play.
Wells report is tainted with his perspective and life experience as a black man. The report reads biased IMHO. The investigation should have been a bi-racial committee.
The fact that Martins tweets are disregarded make the report seem one sided. Both those guys were going back and forth. They both insulted each other.
The Wells report is trash IMHO.
I hope Richie can resume his career somewhere else. I liked him on the team and I wish him well.
Martin?...his parents failed him somehow. The guy acts like an immature sensitive child.

 

[JTC111]

Did you actually READ the report? Its all based on academic psychological bull****, placing blame on Cogs for Martins obvious mental shortcomings.

If you can read that report and think Incognito isn't a victim you're a ****ing idiot plain and simple. **** JMart I'm glad he broke him.

I read the entire thing. The "academic psychological bull****" is based on a whole lot of empirical evidence with which you're apparently unfamiliar. You certainly have to right to cling to your ignorance on the subject but the clinical psychologist employed by Wells has worked in this area for decades and he isn't simply pulling assumptions out of his ass as you're presently doing.

 

[FinHopeful]

After reading the entire report, I have no choice to conclude that Cog, Pouncey, and JJ are the lowest of the low. Cog should be banned from ever playing football again. The NFL should sue him for the damage he has done to their brand. It is significant.

 

[ED AminJoeGreen]

Did you actually READ the report? Its all based on academic psychological bull****, placing blame on Cogs for Martins obvious mental shortcomings.

If you can read that report and think Incognito isn't a victim you're a ****ing idiot plain and simple. **** JMart I'm glad he broke him.

You convinced the sh*t out of me! Just out of curiosity what system did you use to determine his idiocy? Some new non-academic psychological methodology.

 

[jvw]

No Not 5 teams.
after Buffalo he was a free agent. This year he is a free agent. and the dolphins are just not resigning him, more than likely.
And he never really played for Mike Belotti in Oregon, he just failed to do the requirements to play. So really just two teams St. Louis and Nebraska.

So you don't think he was kicked off the dolphins after being suspended week 8 and not playing another down for the rest of the year? wow

 

[jvw]

Richie was liked by his team mates. He is a good ball player. I could care less if he acts like a fool in the locker room or in a bar.
I would rather have Richie Incognito as a team mate than Martin ...a suicidal and unreliable snitch who is a liability to the team with his play.
Wells report is tainted with his perspective and life experience as a black man. The report reads biased IMHO. The investigation should have been a bi-racial committee.
The fact that Martins tweets are disregarded make the report seem one sided. Both those guys were going back and forth. They both insulted each other.
The Wells report is trash IMHO.
I hope Richie can resume his career somewhere else. I liked him on the team and I wish him well.
Martin?...his parents failed him somehow. The guy acts like an immature sensitive child.

You are certainly entitled your opinion and with Richie on your team you can be sure he will drag the team through the mud with the drama that seems to find him at every stop.......

 

[jvw]

Did you actually READ the report? Its all based on academic psychological bull****, placing blame on Cogs for Martins obvious mental shortcomings.

If you can read that report and think Incognito isn't a victim you're a ****ing idiot plain and simple. **** JMart I'm glad he broke him.

wow call me an idiot then.......when a guy deliberately tries to break a person he knows has "mental shortcomings" you don't blame the guy when he breaks.......I'm glad we will never see Richie fat ass on the football field again....but I'm sure he will be in the news

 

[HoneyB]

I feel a little duped, I gave the guy the benefit of the doubt.

I figured all along he road Martin too hard, and he's a partier and drinks and the golf club thing is inexusable....but I didn't know he went that far, and it seems deliberately abusive. Incognito is a ticking time bomb, he took everything way too far, and no I don't believe anymore that he was a friend to Martin. Not a real friend, just an abusive one. People can love people and abuse them at the same time and that's what makes it sick. As mental as Martin was, he was more normal than Incognito. Martin was depressed, and bullied his whole life, and self-medicated. But Incognito was a bipolar mess, just a raging addict who probably didn't even REMEMBER half the stuff he did. Martin knew enough to realize, that in this big dysfunctional mess, that there was something wrong with Richie and he should get away from him.

Why on earth was Richie tweeting that the report with bury Martin, it's burying him instead.

 

[Bob512]

I feel a little duped, I gave the guy the benefit of the doubt.

I figured all along he road Martin too hard, and he's a partier and drinks and the golf club thing is inexusable....but I didn't quite have the whole picture. Incognito is a ticking time bomb, he took everything way too far, and no I don't believe anymore that he was a friend to Martin. Not a real friend, just an abusive one. People can love people and abuse them at the same time and that's what makes it sick. As mental as Martin was, he was more normal than Incognito. Martin was depressed, and bullied his whole life, and self-medicated. But Incognito was a bipolar mess, just a raging addict who probably didn't even REMEMBER half the stuff he did. Martin knew enough to realize, that in this big dysfunctional mess, that there was something wrong with Richie and he should get away from him.

Why on earth was Richie tweeting that the report with bury Martin, it's burying him instead.

Because he believes he didn't do anything wrong! Incognito seems to be one of those people who have to do everything in excess....never knowing when to stop. Frankly, when you read the report....then read all of Martin's text exchanges with Incognito, you have to wonder why that type of back and forth behavior wasn't a more prominent part of the report. I am not making excuses for Incognito's behavior, but if that type of frat house behavior is the world he lives in....and JM is participating in it....you can somewhat understand why Incognito thinks the two of them were on the same page with their behavior.

What I found more troubling was the harassing treatment of the assistant trainer!