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How many wins for Philbin to keep his job?

Well Ross keeps saying he wants to see progress, and progress would be 9 wins. I bet he stays even if we win 9 games and don't make the playoffs. I truly think Philbin should have been fired last year though after the mess of a season we had. I have never been so pissed off at the end of a season and just couldn't believe the lack of adjustments and his blind loyalty to coaches who clearly under-performed. This is a pretty stupid thing to say but he also just doesn't look, sound, or present himself like a great head coach. He doesn't command respect like Shula and other great coaches do/did. That being said, I hope I am wrong about him and we win more than 9, make the playoffs, and kick the crap out of the Jets twice this year !
 
I have a hard time believing that Ross will be fired if this team has great effort and falls short of the playoffs. In fact, I would expect a return of Philbin unless the team gives up on Philbin or if there is another "bully-gate" type scandal. I believe Ross wants to develop some continuity and so far Hickey has done a good job.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
Philbin does two things as a head coach that I like:

1. He is excellent on replay challenges. He really is.

2. He is very receptive to change in a lot of areas where football coaches are usually extremely conservative. I've heard radio guys making fun of him for the 5 minute water break, for instance. What's funny about it? He is trying something that he has reason to believe can reduce training camp injuries. Last season he tried giving players Thursdays off. This season he thinks giving players Mondays off will be better, so he's doing it. I think 30 other coaches in the NFL give the players Tuesdays off, and I bet for 28 of 'em the reasoning is "Well, that's just the way we've always done it."

He split the practice fields in training camp to get more reps, but then went away from it for a time when he thought it was causing a problem elsewhere. He's also clearly changed his management style and the way he interacts with the players at least two seasons in a row. I actually think that Philbin's willingness to try new things or defy conventional football wisdom is a huge asset for the team.

Of course, the flip side is that I think he often 'plays favorites' with respect to who is going to get playing time, and I think he shot himself in the foot by sticking with Mike Sherman even when it was obvious Sherman was not doing a good job. I also don't see him bringing any special skills or tremendous competence on either side of the ball to the table.

Joe Philbin strikes me as a guy who can be a pretty good head coach if he has good assistants who can see to the details. I don't think he is a great head coach, but Harbaugh did turn us down.
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The first one is not Philbin, but the guys in the booth looking at the replay for him. They need to be praised. He's not watching it on a mini screen on the sidelines and then deciding to call for a replay. The booth guys watch it and tell him whether or not to throw the red flag.

The second one is only good if it works. Otherwise, it just makes him look like a fool.

So to review, Philbin is good at trying new things. Heck, hire me, I can do that to. I'm sorry, but I lost confidence in him last year. The Martin/Incognito thing wasn't handled properly. The game afterwards, the play horrific against the Bucs. That's where it's the coach's job to get the team to focus on the field instead of off the field. The last two games showed me he couldn't lead this team, when an opportunity was given to him. Just score two more touchdowns. That's it. And he's and offensive coach.
 
Have not done ship since 2008. And 2001 the last win in the playoffs. Obviously not on Philbin, but my patience is flipping up Dude.
 
Though I don't see as many wins as most, I don't think Philbin is in trouble unless:

a. Tannehill fizzles out
b. The team isn't competitive

For the record I don't see either of those instances occurring (doesn't mean I'm not concerned about Tannehill). After going through a coaching search in 2012 and a tough GM search in 2014 I am inclined to think Ross will stay the course. Don't forget Ross is very loyal to his employees and I'll bet he wants to give Hickey and Philbin a couple years. And that's the right choice.

It's been many years since I have been enthused about off season talent acquisition and this year I am. On the surface it appears that Hickey/Philbin have done a pretty good job with the draft, FA and UDFA and I'd like to see them get at least one more year.

If Philbin was to go I don't see Cowher, Gruden or Harbaugh in Miami because I don't see the Dolphins as a priority for any. If Cowher gets back in I think NY is the logical destination. Gruden is comfortable at ESPN. I love Harbaugh but can't see the 49ers letting him get away no matter how big a prick he is. If they did, unless he wants to stay in the NFL, Michigan will be after him should he go back to college.
 
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Playoffs of bust. Period. Jim Harbaugh better be here next year if I have to endure one more ****ing season without the playoffs.
 
We have to tank hard for Philbin to be fired. We just changed GM's and I doubt we break up that couple after just 1 year unless something really drastic happens.
 
Zounds said:
We have to tank hard for Philbin to be fired. We just changed GM's and I doubt we break up that couple after just 1 year unless something really drastic happens.
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No way. We miss, Philbin's gone. And Harbaugh will be (read: better be) the target.
 
I'm not so sure he is on the hot seat like that. 7-8 wins will prob keep his job easy. It's not what I think we'll do but that's probably his floor as long as the games are played solid and there are no mental breakdowns.
 
Ruckus45 said:
I'm not so sure he is on the hot seat like that. 7-8 wins will prob keep his job easy. It's not what I think we'll do but that's probably his floor as long as the games are played solid and there are no mental breakdowns.
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I'm not having that. That's settling for mediocrity, and that's what this franchise has been doing for far too long. If you don't think Ross will be all over Harbaugh should we miss the playoffs, you're underestimating Ross.
 
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