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How Many Wins in 2013 was Ryan Tannehill Responsible for?

it sure was lucky Ryan threw that high pass so that it could be deflected.

You just proved my point thanks.

Also I know you have your agenda on discrediting Ryan with that end of the year loss but my opinion is the phins game planned heavily for Hartline to get the ball that sunday.When he went down it was game over.You look foolish saying Ryan played bad in the last game knowing Rex's job was pretty much on the line and the Jets were just laying down.It's pretty ridiculous.

The Jets defense did everyone a huge favor by stepping up and saving Rex's job.I'm going to enjoy every minute of the Jets 2014 circus.
 
Is that the Detroit game where the Jets were losing and losing, then (As was the case that season for them) luck intervened, Stafford when down, and the Jets were able to come back. You are delirious, if buttfumble actually ever had to win a game on pure will and guts like Tannehill had to do against the three I gave you, he would wilt like a little flower.



Actually you didn't, with every comment you have made, you prove that point, that much more.



I actually do, question is, do you? As I told you, he still has a bit to go, but his ball placement was much better then last year, and way better then any pass buttfumble threw, unless you call a great pass a mile over the head of the receiver, a few feet in front on the ground, or directly in the hands of the defender.

As one of the commentator said about Tannehill (Can't remember who...might have been Fouts) "Tannehill has looked better this year in his reads and Accuracy, most of the INTs he threw were not because of ball placement, or a bad read." Can't say the same about buttfumble, because I never saw a QB throw so many easy INTs, and someone as lucky also as buttfumble, because if you counted all the INTs that defenders dropped, he would probably have closer to twice the career INTs that he has now.




He had a bad 1st half against your team. but came back to have a great game against you guys, unless you can't call being 28/43 (65.11%) 331Yards 2TDs/1int



The run was going nowhere, the Pass-blocking look like bull fight as they allowed the pass-rusher in with the swing of their arms, if Miami had a QB as limited with little potential as buttfumble, then it would be a mistake, but Tannehill's ceiling has a good amount still to go, so Sherman wanted to give him as much game training as possible....I do agree Miami should have run the ball more, and not abandon it so early, but the RBs were showing points of inconsistency.




I do have to admit with all the wins Miami has handed Rex and the Jets recently, losing to the Jets does hurt more because I am not used to it.




I am not disagree the Defense is a bigger reason that Miami made it that close then the Offense, but they were not the Defense that buttfumble was lucky enough to carry him to the playoffs.



Well the moment he reaches the pro-bowl and/or Superbowl, it will be more then buttfumble ever reached, because Mark's career is pretty much at the end, while Ryan's is just beginning.

pure will and guts:lol::lol:

that would be the Detroit game on the road where the Jets trailed by 10 w/ about 4 mins left and mark got the game to OT and set up a chip shot FG for the win. I know that's nothing compared a GW drive against Atl(Geno did that on the road), handing off in Pitt and scoring at home against the mighty Pats D. :lol:

I am not a homer, I see reality. you want to blame everyone but him.

The Jets enjoyed 3 easy INts in week 17.

he was terrible in the 1st half against us, he kept us in the game. the #s were good in the 2nd half but that was mostly b/c your WRs took 2 short dumpoffs, broke tackles and scored TDs. You rely too much on meaningless #s w/o context.

Yep, we see where that faith in him went. when we trusted our QB we made title games, when you guys trusted Ryan he almost led you to the playoffs!

the difference is 1 game, if the Jets win one more game we are .500 against you w/ rex. The only game that actually mattered as far as playoff implications you lost:lol:

Your D this year was just as good as our 2010 D and in both 2009 and 2010 our D blew a ton of late leads, they got rescued by mark and the pass O but they still blew a ton.

I don't care about pro bowls, if our D played better he'd have a SB app by now.

through 2 years in the NFL:

Mark- 4 road playoff wins, 2 title game apps
Ryan- 0 playoff apps

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You just proved my point thanks.

Also I know you have your agenda on discrediting Ryan with that end of the year loss but my opinion is the phins game planned heavily for Hartline to get the ball that sunday.When he went down it was game over.You look foolish saying Ryan played bad in the last game knowing Rex's job was pretty much on the line and the Jets were just laying down.It's pretty ridiculous.

The Jets defense did everyone a huge favor by stepping up and saving Rex's job.I'm going to enjoy every minute of the Jets 2014 circus.

the Hartline excuse? you know we lost our most important offensive weapon early in that game, the man who the gameplan was designed around and yet we overcame.

Ryan stepped up and saved rex's job so you'll get to finish behind us again like you have done all but 1 year rex has been here.
 
the Hartline excuse? you know we lost our most important offensive weapon early in that game, the man who the gameplan was designed around and yet we overcame.

Ryan stepped up and saved rex's job so you'll get to finish behind us again like you have done all but 1 year rex has been here.

I thought you'd be smart enough to know if the number one receiver goes down the offense kinda goes with it.I was wrong.Also the last I checked 8-8 vs 8-8 is a tie.
 
I thought you'd be smart enough to know if the number one receiver goes down the offense kinda goes with it.I was wrong.Also the last I checked 8-8 vs 8-8 is a tie.

Wallace is the #1 WR, we played most of the year w/o our #1 WR(and #2 WR). Poor excuses

we finished ahead of you, we were the 2nd place team. As usual we finished ahead of you.
 
Wallace is the #1 WR, we played most of the year w/o our #1 WR(and #2 WR). Poor excuses

we finished ahead of you, we were the 2nd place team. As usual we finished ahead of you.

Um who caught the most passes and most yards in 2013?Who is Ryan's go to guy?

I'll help you seeing you haven't figured it out.

Hartline
 
Um who caught the most passes and most yards in 2013?Who is Ryan's go to guy?

I'll help you seeing you haven't figured it out.

Hartline

That's interesting. So when Mark lost his top TWO guys in 2012 and had Chaz Schilens starting he was supposed to succeed but Ryan loses one of his top 2 and has plenty of talent to throw to but that's the reason why.

Hartline had a whopping 3 more receptions in 2013 than Wallace:lol:

I like Hartline and think he is very good but opposing D's are putting their best DBs on Wallace not Hartline.
 
That's interesting. So when Mark lost his top TWO guys in 2012 and had Chaz Schilens starting he was supposed to succeed but Ryan loses one of his top 2 and has plenty of talent to throw to but that's the reason why.

Hartline had a whopping 3 more receptions in 2013 than Wallace:lol:

I like Hartline and think he is very good but opposing D's are putting their best DBs on Wallace not Hartline.

Thanks again,you just proved my point twice,do I owe you anything $$$$?
 
if I proved your point they weren't very solid points. All I see are excuses.
 
it's not a measure of accuracy, most guys w/ high comp %s dump the ball off a lot. he didn't have that option in 2009 after Leon got hurt and LT was at the end of his career in '10/'11.

The excuse factory rolls on...... Sanchez's completion % was low because he is inaccurate and a poor decision maker.
 
Tannehill is responsible for every win, and every loss.

He's the QB and leader of this team.

Trying to split the minutia of each detail is fruitless.
 
more b/c of poor decisions, he's actually pretty accurate and unlike Ryan can throw a deep ball.

You are living in a dream world. The concerns over his accuracy go all the way back to the beginning of his career.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/mark-sanchez-improve-accuracy-watching-film-jets-9-0-loss-packers-article-1.450061

Bottom line: He needs to be more accurate.

http://deadspin.com/5965609/mark-sanchez-is-a-bad-quarterback-thats-why-he-shouldnt-try-to-play-it-safe

The Jets' efforts to protect Sanchez from risk miss this point: Any pass Mark Sanchez makes is risky. What makes Sanchez disastrous is that so many of his passes are low-reward. He gets picked off on the checkdown plays.

:lol2:

http://www.nyjetscap.com/2012_Articles/sanchezpercentage.php

I’m sure I missed a rookie or two that played significantly early on, but I think its safe to say that out of these 14 QB’s Sanchez is either the least accurate or tied for least accurate with Manning. Sanchez showed the least upside of any of them as the only player to never get above the 0% mark. The dip that Sanchez saw in year 2 was a phenomenon only seen by players who had a period above 0% while most others saw their completion percentage rise during that time. Sanchez is most likely never going to be good in this area and if they run an offense anything like they did the last few years he won’t make it out of this season as the starter.

That's less upside than Joey Harrington, David Carr, Kyle Boller, Byron Leftwich, and Josh Freeman. This is just too good....and its a Jets fan site.....

Here is another blistering article from the same site.

http://www.nyjetscap.com/2012_Articles/qbeval.html

It is hard to sugarcoat anything with Sanchez. Sanchez’ high point as a player came in 2010. He was clearly a better QB that season than he was in 2009 and made a nice progression from his rookie year. Some of the progression was smoke and mirrors due to a fluke low number of interceptions based on how many dropped picks he had, but in general the signs were positive.

With his confidence shattered Sanchez was arguably the worst starting QB in the NFL.
 
You are living in a dream world. The concerns over his accuracy go all the way back to the beginning of his career.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/mark-buttfumble-improve-accuracy-watching-film-jets-9-0-loss-packers-article-1.450061



http://deadspin.com/5965609/mark-buttfumble-is-a-bad-quarterback-thats-why-he-shouldnt-try-to-play-it-safe



:lol2:

http://www.nyjetscap.com/2012_Articles/buttfumblepercentage.php



That's less upside than Joey Harrington, David Carr, Kyle Boller, Byron Leftwich, and Josh Freeman. This is just too good....and its a Jets fan site.....

Here is another blistering article from the same site.

http://www.nyjetscap.com/2012_Articles/qbeval.html

you know that article is discussing comp %, right?

other articles were amateurism at their finest. Some folks clearly not watching football and basing it mostly on 2012 when he was horrible w/ no help and as bad as he was in 2012 w/ the worst skill talent in the league and Sparano running the show he was better than "elite" Eli manning was in 2013 w/ top 10 skill players.

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One coach of a quarterback-needy team said his team already has discussed $anchez internally as an option to be its starting quarterback in 2014.

“We’d take $anchez,” the coach said. “He’d be the starter as soon as he walked in the door for us.”

go to ny post for full article
 
you know that article is discussing comp %, right?

other articles were amateurism at their finest. Some folks clearly not watching football and basing it mostly on 2012 when he was horrible w/ no help and as bad as he was in 2012 w/ the worst skill talent in the league and Sparano running the show he was better than "elite" Eli manning was in 2013 w/ top 10 skill players.

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go to ny post for full article

Keep living the dream...... I thought the good QBs elevate their teams????? You are F'n transparent.

All the negative reviews of Sanchez are biased in some way. Sanchez is fine, despite getting demoted and likely will be cut. :lol2:

The best thing you can say about Sanchez is that there may be worse QBs out there......Ha ha....
 
Great ones elevate their teams, there are very few great QBs in this league.

if he was on Miami you would have played at least one more week.
 
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