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BlueFin said:
Nice post...........but there are still some convinced Spielman should still be here, I'm not one of them.....but I'm sure they are still around.
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Yep they sure are. I can name a couple off the top of my head. Thank God we got a coach that wanted total control, otherwise that Jurassic turd might still be the GM.
 
Good read though I don't completely agree. Just because guys are cut by Nick doesn't mean they don't have talent in the right system. Nicks system is a lot different than Wanny's system thus he needs different type/size players.
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I agree with this statement to a degree. Even a talented veteran like Zach Thomas might not end his career in Miami because he is not a perfect fit in the 3-4, he can't shed D-linemen to make tackles like a bigger LB. That's been his one knock throughout his career.
Still, I think we have a lot of baggage on this team, some of it way overpaid (Howard, Feeley). If we are truly in rebuild mode, these guys will be gone. Maybe not Howard this year as our depth at CB is a little light.
As far as RB's and LB's, they make great special teams guys, and lord knows we can't have too many RB's on the roster (as evidenced last season).
 
thecoordinatorlet said:
there be no doubt that dave wannstedt and rick spielman butchered this franchise just about as bad as it can be done.
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Great post. I have been saying this for a while but I didn't lay out the facts like you just did. Thanks for the clarification of why that was.:)
 
Remember, it wasn't just our team that Wanny and Co. ruined. He destroyed the Bears the exact same way. I remember on season in which the Bears had zero Pro Bowlers. Totally a reflection on Wanny's personel decisions.

As an Xs and Os, guy, he was average, but his personel skills deserved an F. That goes for anyone he hired to consult with on these decisions, including Speilman.

It'll be interesting to see how he does at Pitt, evaluating recruits! Poor Dan Marino - his pro team, and now his college team will both be destroyed by Wanny.
 
DolfanTom said:
It'll be interesting to see how he does at Pitt, evaluating recruits! Poor Dan Marino - his pro team, and now his college team will both be destroyed by Wanny.
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Marino should hire O.J. Simpson to off Wannstedt...
 
thecoordinator said:
the nicktator has a new depth chart out, and from the looks of it, his judge of talent is just a wee bit diffrent than spielstedt's. in my opinion, these are the players that may have played their last regular season game as a miami dolphin:

-derrius thompson
-wade smith
-taylor whitley
-donald lee
-lamar gordon
-travis minor
-jamar martin
-dario romero
-bredon aynebadejo
-eddie moore
-corey jenkins
-tony bua

as much as they'd like to consider cutting aj feeley, reggie howard and
our all-time favorite seth mckinney, their hands are tied for a multitude of reasons and these scrubs will remain with the team for one more season.

so the number of spielstedt casualties is likey going to be around 12, and could easily be 15 or more if we said the hell with it and went into full rebuilding mode.

but going by the depth chart and preseason performance, when the dust settles the dolphins will only have 8 players remaining (chris chambers, seth mckinney, randy mcmichael, yeremiah bell, vernon carey, will poole, rex hadnot and derrick pope) from the 35 draft picks selected in the 5 year spielstedt era. that's only 22% and i would imagine puts us somewhere near the bottom percentile of the league.

also, of our 11 first-day picks (rounds 1-3), only 3 players remain (chambers, mckinney and carey). obviously, after this season that number will drop to just 2.
the numbers don't lie....
-no players from the 2000 draft are still here (6 picks).

there will only be:
-1 (chambers) from 2001 (9 picks).
-2 (mckinney, mcmichael) from 2002 (5 picks).
-1 (bell) from 2003 (9 picks).
-4 from 2004 (it's still early lol).

from 2000 to 2003 that's 4 players remaining from 29 draft picks! unreal...

so, my fellow dolfans, this is the blueprint on how to destroy an nfl franchise.
not only does terrible talent evalutation lead to terrible drafts, but it also leads to trades for guys like aj feeley and lamar gordon, and the free agent signings of jay fiedler, ray lucas, damion mcintosh, and reggie howard.

let there be no doubt that dave wannstedt and rick spielman butchered this franchise just about as bad as it can be done.

despite this hack job masterpiece, we're all hopeful that saban can work a miracle in 2005, but you can only run from a series of bad drafts and aquisitions before it finally catches up with you. we can't afford any injuries because we have zero depth from terrible general management, and more often than not in the nfl no depth = no success.

so when you hear all the so-called "experts" picking us to finish last but saying that we will be back in 2-3 years this is why. because barring a miracle we will finish last in the afc east, but we have a legit operation now, run by proffesionals that will rebuild the franchise into a legitimate contender within 2-3 years.
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I just threw up in my mouth...
 
I would not say this is "how to ruin an NFL franchise," but instead say "Saban is ridding the team of the mistakes made by the Wanny/Speilman era and righting the ship....sadly, it may take 2-3 years for us to fix the mess they made. :cry:
 
Jnaledu3 said:
Yep they sure are. I can name a couple off the top of my head. Thank God we got a coach that wanted total control, otherwise that Jurassic turd might still be the GM.
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A coach with final say isn't always the best thing for a franchise. I didn't wanna keep Spielman around but, a coach with final say can destroy a franchise also. If there are wrong moves it's on Saban, but i've got confidence in him, unlike Dave who was only the head coach because he was JJ's boy.
 
good read...I liked Minor as a change of pace guy before, but with our depth I agree he's on his way out. Moore is young with some talent, but it matters what the Nickatator thinks, and more importantly what he sees on the field.
 
thecoordinator said:
the nicktator has a new depth chart out, and from the looks of it, his judge of talent is just a wee bit diffrent than spielstedt's. in my opinion, these are the players that may have played their last regular season game as a miami dolphin:

-derrius thompson
-wade smith
-taylor whitley
-donald lee
-lamar gordon
-travis minor
-jamar martin
-dario romero
-bredon aynebadejo
-eddie moore
-corey jenkins
-tony bua

as much as they'd like to consider cutting aj feeley, reggie howard and
our all-time favorite seth mckinney, their hands are tied for a multitude of reasons and these scrubs will remain with the team for one more season.

so the number of spielstedt casualties is likey going to be around 12, and could easily be 15 or more if we said the hell with it and went into full rebuilding mode.

but going by the depth chart and preseason performance, when the dust settles the dolphins will only have 8 players remaining (chris chambers, seth mckinney, randy mcmichael, yeremiah bell, vernon carey, will poole, rex hadnot and derrick pope) from the 35 draft picks selected in the 5 year spielstedt era. that's only 22% and i would imagine puts us somewhere near the bottom percentile of the league.

also, of our 11 first-day picks (rounds 1-3), only 3 players remain (chambers, mckinney and carey). obviously, after this season that number will drop to just 2.
the numbers don't lie....
-no players from the 2000 draft are still here (6 picks).

there will only be:
-1 (chambers) from 2001 (9 picks).
-2 (mckinney, mcmichael) from 2002 (5 picks).
-1 (bell) from 2003 (9 picks).
-4 from 2004 (it's still early lol).

from 2000 to 2003 that's 4 players remaining from 29 draft picks! unreal...

so, my fellow dolfans, this is the blueprint on how to destroy an nfl franchise.
not only does terrible talent evalutation lead to terrible drafts, but it also leads to trades for guys like aj feeley and lamar gordon, and the free agent signings of jay fiedler, ray lucas, damion mcintosh, and reggie howard.

let there be no doubt that dave wannstedt and rick spielman butchered this franchise just about as bad as it can be done.

despite this hack job masterpiece, we're all hopeful that saban can work a miracle in 2005, but you can only run from a series of bad drafts and aquisitions before it finally catches up with you. we can't afford any injuries because we have zero depth from terrible general management, and more often than not in the nfl no depth = no success.

so when you hear all the so-called "experts" picking us to finish last but saying that we will be back in 2-3 years this is why. because barring a miracle we will finish last in the afc east, but we have a legit operation now, run by proffesionals that will rebuild the franchise into a legitimate contender within 2-3 years.
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Very good analysis. Makes you go HMMMM. Thank the football gods that wanny and speilman are OUTTA HERE!:evil:
 
The only thing I have to add to this is that in this thread, we have the best and worst avatars on the board. The best is clearly the dude with mega-babe Sophie Howard and her mega-cleavage. And then, there's the guy who has Peter Griffin licking his own nipple. Thanks, Bringbackshula, I'm now scarred for life.
 
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