I can't understand why tannehill has such a poor deep ball

[spiketex]

There was one deep ball yesterday, where he actually overthrew Wallace. Most of the others have been fluttering on the way down with Wallace forced to slow down and let his opponent catch up as the ball arrives. I thought that it was actually a good sign that he could overthrow Wallace in full stride.
In addition to recruiting fliers to provide practice, I would also analyze the throwing mechanics of the very best deep passers of all time. The guy that I remember as being dominant was Daunte Culpepper throwing to Randy Moss in Minnesota, when he was pretty young. Ultimately Daunte got injured, came here to Miami and made other stops when he was a shadow of his former self. Maybe Daunte just had ridiculous natural thrustpower and could throw the deep ball effortlessly, but he and Roethlisberger (to a slightly lesser extent) knew how to connect. Both of these guys are/were huge physical specimens, Tannehill is about 220 lbs, Big Ben is over 240 lbs and Daunte was 260 lbs. Maybe Ryan has to get physically bigger. He is fit but looks pretty skinny. Sorry Lauren, you are part of the solution and you could add a little yourself while you're at it, too.
To be honest I have zero confidence in Ryan being able to accurately throw the deep ball and hit Wallace in stride. Hope I'm wrong.

 

[BahamaFinFan78]

I know Ryan sucks in his throws to Wallace deep, but I wonder if any part of it is on Wallace? Does he go all out in practice? Maybe his timing is off with Ryan because is used to his route running in practice as compared to the games? I also noticed on a throw Andy Dalton made to AJ Green yesterday that was severely underthrown, AJ stopped, jumped, went up and got it. I never see Wallace to that, but it is still a bad pass from Tannehill.

 

[SCarolinaFinFan]

I know Ryan sucks in his throws to Wallace deep, but I wonder if any part of it is on Wallace? Does he go all out in practice? Maybe his timing is off with Ryan because is used to his route running in practice as compared to the games? I also noticed on a throw Andy Dalton made to AJ Green yesterday that was severely underthrown, AJ stopped, jumped, went up and got it. I never see Wallace to that, but it is still a bad pass from Tannehill.

I believe you're right.. I've read somewhere that Wallace doesn't practice at full speed. . He's going something like half speed.. How is anyone supposed to develop timing when your not going full speed?

 

[THE OG CANEPHINS]

This. Hard to get your arms up to catch the ball when they are being held down.

Still, there was the one deep ball Wallace could have gotten had he dove for it. I don't recall Wallace diving for one pass just out of his reach. This goes back to my post in another thread of Wallace night fighting for receptions. Hartline will stretch every inch for that ball. He will dive and go for that one handed grab. Wallace won't. That is why Wallace and Tannehill need to spend everyday of the offseason working on their timing and deep balls.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

That should have been a penalty on the Jet defender. He armbarred Wallace

And Wallace allowed that to happen by trying to basket catch the ball. All the hating on Tannehill for missing on the lowest % passes in the league and Wallace gets a pass for a fundamental flaw in his game. He doesn't attack the ball, ever.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

Nah. Youre confusing deep throws with deep throws to guys who are WIDE OPEN, streaking down the field, several yards past the defender.

Those type of passes are completed fairly regularly by competent NFL QBs. Tannebust misses almost all of them.

Most of them are under thrown and the WR adjusts and goes up and GETS THE F'N BALL! Just like AJ Green did yesterday. Wallace is a joke. He should be cut while we have the cap space to afford it.

 

[Kdawg954]

I believe you're right.. I've read somewhere that Wallace doesn't practice at full speed. . He's going something like half speed.. How is anyone supposed to develop timing when your not going full speed?

i knew we had to dig deep for new excuses for Tannehill this week with the running game and oline performing at a good level. Some blamed the defense for not giving him the ball back more, some blamed the drop by Matthews . . . but I think this one takes the cake.

FYI, Tannehill doesn't hit them in practice very often either.

 

[Kdawg954]

Most of them are under thrown and the WR adjusts and goes up and GETS THE F'N BALL! Just like AJ Green did yesterday. Wallace is a joke. He should be cut while we have the cap space to afford it.

AJ Green is a completely different WR from Mike Wallace. Mike Wallace's biggest asset is his ability to outrun the DB and catch the ball full stride for 6. If we signed Mike Wallace to be a jumpball WR . . . for him to stop in mid stride to go up for an underthrown ball . . . then we failed in that entire philosophy.

Mike Wallace has beaten CBs like drums all year, he's done his job. The QB hasn't been able to hit him.

 

[AllFinsAllDay]

I think it comes down to the oline being crap right now. I think if we had a decent running game Tannehill would have been alot better now he doesn't escape blame, but it is a collective team effort. The thing that gets me is when we win this stuff about Tannehill doesn't come up for the most part. Again you win as a team and you lose as a team.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

AJ Green is a completely different WR from Mike Wallace. Mike Wallace's biggest asset is his ability to outrun the DB and catch the ball full stride for 6. If we signed Mike Wallace to be a jumpball WR . . . for him to stop in mid stride to go up for an underthrown ball . . . then we failed in that entire philosophy.

Mike Wallace has beaten CBs like drums all year, he's done his job. The QB hasn't been able to hit him.

This is the typical lame excuse for Wallace.... What? He can't jump? WTF.....

If you believe that, then we paid about $55 million too much for Wallace and he shouldn't be a starter in the league. You just described Ted Ginn.

 

[Kdawg954]

This is the typical lame excuse for Wallace.... What? He can't jump? WTF.....

If you believe that, then we paid about $55 million too much for Wallace and he shouldn't be a starter in the league. You just described Ted Ginn.

Poor excuse? It's the truth. More like the typical Ryan Tannehill excuse. Ryan Tannehill didn't connect ONE TIME at what Mike Wallace does best.

How can your star WR make an impact on the game if your Quarterback can't even hit him when he's streaking down the sideline wide ****ing open.

Inspite of not hitting him when he is wide ****ING OPEN, Mike Wallace still put up more yards than Ted Ginn ever did in a Miami uniform.

 

[slk018]

I know the answer- Because he isn't very good. he will one day be an average starter maybe namke the playoffs at 9-7 once or twice but never do anything else...
But nobody wants to hear that, we all want excuses

 

[Phinatic8u]

People stop with the excuses.

The qb failed in getting the ball to Wallace deep. When he's wide ass open down the sideline and you can't hit it accurately, you failed.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

Poor excuse? It's the truth. More like the typical Ryan Tannehill excuse. Ryan Tannehill didn't connect ONE TIME at what Mike Wallace does best.

How can your star WR make an impact on the game if your Quarterback can't even hit him when he's streaking down the sideline wide ****ing open.

Inspite of not hitting him when he is wide ****ING OPEN, Mike Wallace still put up more yards than Ted Ginn ever did in a Miami uniform.

Mike Wallace sucks. Get over it. We F'd up. Wasted $60 million. We should cut our losses now. When Tannehill gets him the ball, he drops it anyway. Crappy basket catching bum.

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People stop with the excuses.

The qb failed in getting the ball to Wallace deep. When he's wide ass open down the sideline and you can't hit it accurately, you failed.

And when the QB puts it in his hands in the end zone he needs to catch the damn ball. He needs to stop being a *****.

 

[Phinatic8u]

He did catch the td that hit him in the hands, if your talking about the pass that the db interfered with in the end zone he did what a lot of WRs do, basket the ball in that situation.

How bout the qb hit the man in stride to make it 14-0 and possibly a victory. Nah the qb is blameless.