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If we trade Ricky he will probably quit.... again.

SkapePhin said:
It will most likely be the ONLY way to trade him for anything valuable..

So why trade him ? He is a talented guy.He is easy on the cap .He doesnt care about sharing time or building up his stats.He most likely be amenable to renegotiate his next years deal to help the fins to get under the CAP.He admires Saban .Whats not to like ?

The only negative thing about him is that he is still a distraction.That will pass.
 
SkapePhin said:
It will most likely be the ONLY way to trade him for anything valuable..

Then you don't trade him.
 
CrunchTime said:
So why trade him ? He is a talented guy.He is easy on the cap .He doesnt care about sharing time or building up his stats.He most likely be amenable to renegotiate his next years deal to help the fins to get under the CAP.He admires Saban .Whats not to like ?

The only negative thing about him is that he is still a distraction.That will pass.
word. right now Ricky is more valuable to us than Ronnie is because of these factors.

Ricky is costing us a LOT less than Ronnie right now, and is in debt to us, willing to work with us, and has proven skills.

no reason to trade Ricky...
 
I have news for everyone. The guy is only wearing the color white these days. He may go AWOL on us sooner than later.

He's a wackadoo ppl.
 
ohall said:
I have news for everyone. The guy is only wearing the color white these days. He may go AWOL on us sooner than later.

He's a wackadoo ppl.

Agreed.But as long as Saban massages his ego and treats him like a son he will stick around.Saban is known to be adept at psychiatry with players.So I think he will be able to keep Ricky in line for awhile.

Having said that I believe players like Ricky are like ticking time bombs.They will dissapoint you at some time.
 
Here's the thing about Ricky.

Ricky's like a salvage-titled car. You see all these online ads for salvage-titled 2004 Cadillac CTS-Vs for $25k, and you wonder if the frame is bent, or if the transmission is shot, did the airbag deploy, etc. And for every lemon, there are probably 3-4 great cars that people get amazing deals on. But it's all about risk. People are risk-averse, because there ARE people who pay $25k and get a lemon. Ricky's a salvaged ride. He's one of the best, and when he plays and wants to, he's worth every penny. How in the world can a LB expect to tackle a fresh-legged Ricky in the 4th quarter? But no one is going to trade for him, and he's a HUGE boom-or-bust that could pay off handsomely. He's a penny stock. I expect some great things, but no one else is going to. The only situation where he'd succeed is one just like this: no real pressure, not the main guy, already a somewhat supportive fan base willing to forgive, a team that sort of understands him (moreso than any other team would) and won't put the squeeze on him because he's viewed as "soft," a warm city that won't trigger any seasonal depression, and a great head coach who he WANTS to play for. He's an untradeable commodity.

If you think about it, Ricky quitting may have been the best thing to happen to us. He took a year off to avoid a later meltdown, it caused Wanny to be fired and a house cleaning, it brought in an amazing head coach and the best OL coach in the business (and the subsequent/prior firing of a OL coach jamming square pegs in round holes), and gave us the #2 draft pick. Now, Ricky's back on the cheap, our future is looking up, and he's not so crazy anymore (or, so it seems).
 
CrunchTime said:
Agreed.But as long as Saban massages his ego and treats him like a son he will stick around.Saban is known to be adept at psychiatry with players.So I think he will be able to keep Ricky in line for awhile.

Having said that I believe players like Ricky are like ticking time bombs.They will dissapoint you at some time.

I can see this, good point.
 
CrunchTime said:
So why trade him ? He is a talented guy.He is easy on the cap .He doesnt care about sharing time or building up his stats.He most likely be amenable to renegotiate his next years deal to help the fins to get under the CAP.He admires Saban .Whats not to like ?

The only negative thing about him is that he is still a distraction.That will pass.

Hey, I agree with you.. Just explaining to him why a trade would have to be conditional.
 
Alot of good points on this thread, I hope he finishes in MIAMI , he's a great back who seems to like playing for SABAN. DON'T TRADE!!!!!
 
infiltrateib said:
Here's the thing about Ricky.







Ricky's like a salvage-titled car. You see all these online ads for salvage-titled 2004 Cadillac CTS-Vs for $25k, and you wonder if the frame is bent, or if the transmission is shot, did the airbag deploy, etc. And for every lemon, there are probably 3-4 great cars that people get amazing deals on. But it's all about risk. People are risk-averse, because there ARE people who pay $25k and get a lemon. Ricky's a salvaged ride. He's one of the best, and when he plays and wants to, he's worth every penny. How in the world can a LB expect to tackle a fresh-legged Ricky in the 4th quarter? But no one is going to trade for him, and he's a HUGE boom-or-bust that could pay off handsomely. He's a penny stock. I expect some great things, but no one else is going to. The only situation where he'd succeed is one just like this: no real pressure, not the main guy, already a somewhat supportive fan base willing to forgive, a team that sort of understands him (moreso than any other team would) and won't put the squeeze on him because he's viewed as "soft," a warm city that won't trigger any seasonal depression, and a great head coach who he WANTS to play for. He's an untradeable commodity.







If you think about it, Ricky quitting may have been the best thing to happen to us. He took a year off to avoid a later meltdown, it caused Wanny to be fired and a house cleaning, it brought in an amazing head coach and the best OL coach in the business (and the subsequent/prior firing of a OL coach jamming square pegs in round holes), and gave us the #2 draft pick. Now, Ricky's back on the cheap, our future is looking up, and he's not so crazy anymore (or, so it seems).

Good analogy.
 
I think we are all a little hard on Ricky for not having ever met him, for not ever have suffered from severe social anxiety, for not have ever indulged ourselves in the eastern religions and philosophies. I think the Ricky of last year and this year is a changed person.

However, since most other teams will view him as a "wackadoo" or "ticking time bomb", that works to our advantage. He will always be more valuable to us and seems to have made a solid relationship with Saban (like with Collier and Ditka), unlike with Wanny. He left last year after all the coaching turmoil including the forced step down by collier
 
If a team thinks it is a running back away from a superbowl trip,you can bet your azz there will be trade offers for Ricky and they will be good offers.If he is not traded I worry about there being enough carries and footballs to go around.Ricky got stronger with the more carries he got during the game and made most big run when other teams D was getting tired.Ricky can say he doesn't care about money,but that is why he came back.Don't get me wrong either way I will be happy,but everyone wants more money and you can't get it if you don't get the ball.
 
TGall13 said:
Why would we want to get rid of a "willing" Ricky Williams? There hasn't been any negative pub coming from any of the players regarding him. He's seemed to have his life in order and is enjoying playing for Saban. As long as Ricky wants to play, why not for us??

Because all that could change tomorrow. Ricky could become unhappy with some decision, or he could give in to the temptation to light one up. Who knows, maybe an apprenticeship to the Dahli Lama will open up. Given Ricky's past and his apparent current state of mind, anything could happen with him. As long as nobody is offering anything of real value then we are better off using Ricky for whatever we can get from him. However, if somebody stepped up and offered anything higher than a 4th round pick, I think we should take it. Then if Ricky does indeed go off the deep end again, some other team would have to worry about it and we would be sitting back smiling with an extra draft pick in our pocket.
 
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