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Schleprock said:
winston did not get beat at all from what i saw... he was holding his own and the rush was coming mostly from the right side of the Oline... i thought winston did great...
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winston did not get beat at all from what i saw... he was holding his own and the rush was coming mostly from the right side of the Oline... i thought winston did great...
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i guess you didn't actually watch the game last night. most of the sacks on wright last night were due to wright standing there all day long, and eventually getting sacked because his receivers couldn't get open. winston played very well, especially in the 2nd half. miami put a LOT more pressure on weatherford than FSU did to wrightSchleprock said:
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oh, and vince young is a horrible pro prospect. christ people, stop listening to what trev alberts says and watch these players play...
Schleprock said:
Homer replys, I've never posted anything but a vaild point on the man. When you give me something that I can't reply to with an legit argument, then I'll respect your opinion. All those guys listed couldn't compare to the type of play and numbers Jacobs has put up. They never showed the same composure and carefullness with the football that he has exibited. And looking over to the sideline for the play is how the offense is run and always will be run under Brandon. If their winning games and have a top offense in the country using that style, what is the problem with it?
This is not a thread I want to argue about Jacobs in, if you wanna read the same things I'll post here go back to the past year of posts about the man. But if I see a skewered opinion I'm going to call you out on it, and calling Jacobs as bad passer or any other the other guys you said that about that had awesome weekends is just poor.
For cripe sake...I forgot, the University of Miami Homers have to be blind on this board too 
Winston was constantly having trouble with the speed rushers, he was trying to push them wide but they would get past him and wrap around. Yes, Wright held the ball a bit long many times, but you can't sit there and tell me they didn't have constant pressure on him all night
Winston was constantly having trouble with the speed rushers, he was trying to push them wide but they would get past him and wrap around. Yes, Wright held the ball a bit long many times, but you can't sit there and tell me they didn't have constant pressure on him all night kastofsna120
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nope....you didn't watch the game. luckily i recorded it, and if you'll give me your address, i'll ship it over to you in short time and you can realize you're wrongSchleprock said:For cripe sake...I forgot, the University of Miami Homers have to be blind on this board too
saves said:
What the hell kind of evidence is that?? "They never showed the same composure and carefullness with the football that he exhibits"???
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Timmy Change is the NCAA leader for passing...Ty Detmer was...Tim Couch had/has some records too. Give me afreaking break with the homer crap. Jacobs is just another product of his college's system. A passing offense at a small school.
wow, your so cool, you taped the game and will ship it to me to make me soooo knowledgeable. Good thing we have people like you, I'm so totally convinced and proven wrong nowkastofsna120 said:
Schleprock said:
When you throw 41td's and 4 ints, you're not turning the ball over, there is your evidence. Don't throw at me Timmy Chang, he is the NCAA leader in INT's as well, do you want that on your team. Theres the difference right there, he is putting up the same types of numbers, WITHOUT turning it over.
This "small school" quarterback threw for over 450 yards and 5 td's on one of the best defenses in the big 10 while turning the ball over once. His first career start he threw for 250 and 2td's and no INT's against the second ranked team in the country. Laugh at that.
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Schleprock said:
like ben roethlisburger? and phillip rivers? and byron leftwich?
ive never even seen omar jacobs play but your arguement against it is kinda random, what does naming random college players who were successful in college but sucked in the pros prove? what do they have to do with omar jacobs? matt lienhart has college success is he gonna suck? eli manning did also, so hes gonna suck? i dont get your arguement?
and as for winston he held his own, pressure was coming up the middle and from the right side, yes there was a lot ofo pressure on wright, but you had to see where it was coming from... i was specifically watching winston last night and he held his own most of the night, with no help, most of the time the LG helped the C on the DTs... i thought he played well, while the rest of the line sucked it up
Who is a majority of their opponents against? How many 1000 yard rushers have they had while he was there? The fact from a pure college perspective, and if you were able to be unaware of what they did in the pros, you cannot see how he is exactly similar in playing style, offense, and school type as to the laundry list of quarterbacks I listed on the first page...shows you're a homer. I'll also wager that you are very young as well and probably don't know who half those QBs are. That's the only reason people ever leave their age hidden on message board profiles, so they don't look like ayoungin and can always say "I'm old enough to be your father" when someone calls them out.saves said:
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Watch a game....and make sure to watch it from an open mind, not from what you have read and heard about the guy. You'll see he is exactly like the players I mention. I don't see what is so damn hard to figure out about my comparison. People who I mentioned were all "great passers" with big numbers who were going to be "great pro's". A few even won the Heisman. But they all had things in common: worked out of shotgun 90%, bad mechanics, played for average school's at the time, had no run game (consequently because they were always passing, which in turn gave them their inflated stats), all ended up failing in the pro's because they were one dimensional IF THAT. Big Ben has done good. Leftwich has stilled not proven he is what he was expected to be, ask some Jax fans. And Rivers...what has he accomplished so far sitting on the bench?
Schleprock said:
The majority of their opponents are other MAC schools, but he has still done well against top notch opponents, and since you apparently watched the Wisky game you saw that, did you not. How many 1000 yard rushers has he had, well he has only played one year as a redshirt sophomore and what, he did have a 1000 yard rusher, and well over 1000 yards on the ground as a team, whats your point here. The offense is more balanced than people think, even if it its predominatly shotgun. They have alot of under center stuff in the playbook, but it suits the team to run shotgun. Alright he was in a similar offense, and has 41-4 TD-INT, show me one that does that. Thats a NCAA record and he has put the ball in the air more without giving the opposition a chance at it. And what does my age have to do with anything, I'll tell you right now I am a sophomore at Bowling Green, do you want me to break out my gpa, my test scores, hell I'll give you an impressive 40 yard dash time and bench press if you want me too, where ya going with this one?
Oh fyi, their starting tail back PJ pope ran for 1000 yards last year and had 15 rushing TD's. Their number 2 BJ Lane added another 400 and 2 TD's. Yea....Omar gets all the TD's on the team.
You go to Bowling Green??? Case closed and I'm done arguing. You'll never listen/read it. It's like trying to convince Brenda Warner that Josh McCown really is the better quarterback than Kurt.saves said:
I guess we'll see next year at this time how Jacobs is doing.
Schleprock said:
Excuse me? You never gave one solid point about why he won't be a good pro. I am not being as biased as I could about Jacobs, I point out his shortcomings and have never said that he is the perfect prospect. I've been talking about him since this time last year, and if you search back you'll find me saying the same things about him then that I do now, and I feel that I am in a better position to judge his play than you considering I've seen almost every start of his colligate career. You failed to give me a single point that would deter a team from drafting him other than: Timmy Chang, Ty Detmer, ect. and that really dosn't work for me considering he has better stats than all of them and he did it his first year start on a much more balanced team than you want to admit. Its not like your little analogy either, I will never tell you he is the best prospect this year. I like alot of other quarterbacks playing right now, and alot of other players at different positions. What I will do is point out when someone has said something I know is false, to keep people that havn't had a chance to see him play from believing your unsubstantiated opinion.
We will see next year, and I think alot of the other prospect you have discounted will have you eating crow as well.