FinsNYanksFan13 said:
All I know is that UNC's heralded freshman class from a few years ago is underachieving big time, while Duke's class has been to a final 4 and a sweet 16!
Are you kidding me? Duke's class was called the best class since the Fab 5 and Randolph stinks, Thompson is gone, Redick is the most overrated player in the Country, Dokcery is average at best and Williams is good when he can stay out of foul trouble. The heralded Carolina trio came in after an 8-20 season and would have been a Tourney team as freshman if May had not gotten hurt then had a coaching change and lost alot of close games last year but still beat Wake, Tech, UConn, Illinois and others and got back to the Tourney and now are a favorite to be a FF team while duke's heralded class will be lucky to be a sweet 16 team.
2 years ago they played Missouri. At Mich St. And Georgia Tech out of conference just to name a few.
Ga tech was rebuilding and wasn't good, I'm sure Boeheim wouldn't schedule them now so 1 tough game at MSu isn't a tough sched.
Let's get the facts straight. And that was also the year the BIG 12 was hyped as so great. Two #1 seeds and a #2 seed in the tourney, SU beat them all. In fact that was the year SU in one season beat Missouri, Oklahoma St, Oklahoma, Texas, and Kansas. DEFACTO BIG 12 CHAMPS!
They beat KU, OU, OSU and UT in the NCAA tourney so that does not count as a tough sched. I didn't say they didn't earn the title, I said they played a crampuff non-conf sched and they always do. I said it didn't hurt them in '02-'03 and it probably won't hurt them this year but that i'd like to see the big time teams play other big time teams from other confs more.
In basektball though, when you add L'ville, Cincy, Depaul, and Marquett to the Big East. Then throw in bottom feeders like Miami, VT, and BC in the ACC.......the Big East is clearly better in basketball TOP to BOTTOM.
First off we are debating the conferences THIS year. Secondly even next year and beyond the ACC will be better in most years. Yeah there will be years where the ACC is down or the BE or another conf is just better in a given year but in most years the ACC will be better. the ONLY nbig team you are adding is Louisville and Louisville has done NOTHING since Denny Crum left, they have been a good reg season team and failed in the Tourney. Marquette is good evry 5 years or so, Cincy is on their way down w/ Thuggins and they always go out by rd 2 every year anyway and South Florida? Come on, they are worse than VT or Miami. Oh by the way, Miami beat Florida at Florida over the weekend and Florida was ranked #19. Let'ss ee your bottom feeders do something like that.
Even this year without those teams yet in, you will still see the Big East be on par if not better than the ACC.
When will you back up your arguments? The ACC has 7 ranked teams w/ FIVE in the top 10 in the Coaches poll. You keep telling me how the BE is better but never back anything up. The BE is nowhere near the ACC this year- not even in the discussion for best conf.
