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Interesting Tannehill Stat Comparison

FinfanInBuffalo said:
WTF? Unless we score ZERO TDs in the final quarter of the season, we WILL have more TDs this season. At our current pace, we will score roughly 25% more TDs.
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My bad, I did not pay attention to the comparison enough to understand that was end of season stats from last year. So, point taken. Good to know we'll end up with more yards and TD's than last year. Progress.

Still, if you look at the stats, and our upgrades from last year, and take into consideration Brent Grimes is handing the ball back to our offense in good field position, you'd think the numbers would look better than they are.
 
HoneyB said:
My bad, I did not pay attention to the comparison enough to understand that was end of season stats from last year. So, point taken. Good to know we'll end up with more yards and TD's than last year. Progress.

Still, if you look at the stats, and our upgrades from last year, and take into consideration Brent Grimes is handing the ball back to our offense in good field position, you'd think the numbers would look better than they are.
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O-line problems...while the rushing game doesn't look horrible overall...the Phins have had too many games in which the run games was non existent. That sacks early in the season didn't help....whats the teams record since McKinnie....6-2?
 
Just for comparison, after 13 games last year Tannehill was 227 for 396 with a total of 2709 yards, he had 8 TDs and 12 INTs
 
ConvenientTruth said:
O-line problems...while the rushing game doesn't look horrible overall...the Phins have had too many games in which the run games was non existent. That sacks early in the season didn't help....whats the teams record since McKinnie....6-2?
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Pouncey and Cog have been the only two who can run block, and they have been off from other years. Everyone else, including the 3 TE's have sucked. The interior has done well in pass protect but the OT's have killed us, and McKennie has not been much better than Martin overall.

I took a look at first downs. Last year, 158 (10 per game) passing and 93 (6 per game) running. This year, 170 (13 per game) passing and 54 (4 per game) running. An average of one more first down a game is not good..
 
Southbeach 2 said:
Pouncey and Cog have been the only two who can run block, and they have been off from other years. Everyone else, including the 3 TE's have sucked. The interior has done well in pass protect but the OT's have killed us, and McKennie has not been much better than Martin overall.

I took a look at first downs. Last year, 158 (10 per game) passing and 93 (6 per game) running. This year, 170 (13 per game) passing and 54 (4 per game) running. An average of one more first down a game is not good..
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How many 3rd and shorts have been missed...not sure how to find that stat, but that could be very telling...

It also shows that Tannehill is being asked to do more then the previous season....not by design, but by necessity.
 
rent this space said:
Just for comparison, after 13 games last year Tannehill was 227 for 396 with a total of 2709 yards, he had 8 TDs and 12 INTs
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Thanks for the apples to apples. That's under 60 percent completion rate, and Tanny is up this year.

I'd be curious to know how many TD's we score in relation to possessions. Does anybody have that average? IMO, as long as we drive down the field and score, it doesn't make a difference to me if Tanny throws it in, runs it in, or hands it off to a RB.
 
HoneyB said:
Thanks for the apples to apples. That's under 60 percent completion rate, and Tanny is up this year.

I'd be curious to know how many TD's we score in relation to possessions. Does anybody have that average? IMO, as long as we drive down the field and score, it doesn't make a difference to me if Tanny throws it in, runs it in, or hands it off to a RB.
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Offensive efficiency is up from the 29.5th percentile in the league in 2012 (full season), to the 48.8th percentile in the league this year, prior to the Steelers game.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teameff
 
too much emphasis on ypa...miami has adjusted to a more short passinggame and take your shots primarily off pa team so yeah you are gonna get lower ypa numbers as a result...and the uptick in the ypa the last 5 weeks is a direct reflection of the competent left tackle in pass pro mckinnie keeping the pocket from collapsing into tannehill on his blind side...

that and tyson clabo hasn't been quite the same disaster he was the first 5 weeks of late...still not good but not god awful either...

people focus on the dumbest stuff...before it was ball security from the qb position in the pocket now it's ypa in a adjusted to more short passing game
 
hooshoops said:
too much emphasis on ypa...miami has adjusted to a more short passinggame and take your shots primarily off pa team so yeah you are gonna get lower ypa numbers as a result...
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The problem is that the better quarterbacks in the league have not only a far better YPA than Tannehill when throwing the ball down the field (20+ yards) in the air, but they have a better YPA than Tannehill on the shorter throws, as well, regardless of whether they're playing in an offense that features primarily the short passing game.

If you're going to feature primarily a short passing game, your quarterback, if he isn't going to outshine the better quarterbacks when he does throw (less frequently) downfield, better be outshining them aplenty on the shorter throws, and in terms of passing efficiency, the all-important passing statistic, Tannehill is not.
 
Once again I will ask what is our YAC on average versus the rest of the league. I will bet it is in the lower third of teams. This is a direct reflection on Ryan's YPA. YAC has improved of late, like Hartline's TD two weeks ago. Wallace's TD two weeks ago. Even Clay's 2nd td this week. That is why the YPA has gone up. If someone who loves stats can find YAC nunbers as well as broken tackles I bet we are near the bottom of the league. These numbers if improved would instantly add to Ryan's YPA.
 
Canadi-Phin said:
Once again I will ask what is our YAC on average versus the rest of the league. I will bet it is in the lower third of teams. This is a direct reflection on Ryan's YPA. YAC has improved of late, like Hartline's TD two weeks ago. Wallace's TD two weeks ago. Even Clay's 2nd td this week. That is why the YPA has gone up. If someone who loves stats can find YAC nunbers as well as broken tackles I bet we are near the bottom of the league. These numbers if improved would instantly add to Ryan's YPA.
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How would you know to whom to attribute that, however, Tannehill or the receivers?
 
Okay, based off this site it shows Miller at 7.7 YAC, Clay is avg 5.7 YAC for 156th in the league, Daniel Thomas is 5.7 as well, Gibson was 4.5 YAC for 234th in the league, Matthews 4.1 for 253, Wallace is 4.0 for 258th, Hartline 3.9 for 262. As a team we avg 4.89 and are ranked 28th in the league. That is brutal.

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/team-yards-after-catch-statistics/2013/
 
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