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I was going to bring that up next. :)
Interesting Tannehill Stat Comparison
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Yeah, and you also see a lot of other receivers getting yards after the catch, so that negates your little YPA argument, doesn't it...
Here goes shou talking out his ass again
Pretty interesting that even with Reggie Wayne's 50yds/5 receptions thru part of the Rams game in which he went down, Luck's total ypa for the season is still a 6.7. Since Wayne went down, his ypas respectively have been 6.4, 4.2, 6.3 and 7.1. The 4.2 was against AZ.. he's 2-2 and has lost to the only 2 winning teams he played. So anyone who wants to make a case against Tannehill, damn well better include the 4 year college QB Luck, being coached also by his college OC and whose overall stats are pedestrian to say the least.
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The link indicates we were ranked 22nd in offensive efficiency last year, and 18th this year.
So you're saying that's inclusive of the statistic I was looking for?
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I didn't follow this part of the thread, but whoever said a judge can request HIPAA protected information, is correct. It's done for civil trials all the time. Attached to a subpoena duces tecum for medical records, is often either a patient's release, or a signed judge's order. You need one or the other. This is accepted across state lines as well.
I think overall efficiency as they've computed it on that website is about the best we're going to do in terms of something that maps on to what you said in your post about driving down the field on offense.
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Not to rehash that one from another thread, but suffice it to say that it was shouright talking out of his ass again. IIRC he claimed that judges could just willy-nilly subpoena such records on a whim. Which they can't.
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We all agreed that a judge can submit an order for medical records. The point was you can't just do it for whatever reason. It has to be shown extremely relevant to a case and usually the person the records belong to is either incapacitated and can't sign a release or is deceased. Shouwrong was claiming that a judge could order Martin's medical records from his stay in that mental health facility for 48 hours or whatever it was. We all laughed and said a judge wouldn't sign that order, and if he did the provider would just file an injunction with a higher court if he felt it wasn't relevant. I know I would. HIPAA information is protected like fort knox, and Shouwrong was acting like anyone can just peek in for whatever reason. Dude is a fraud and a liar...
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[/COLOR]Tannehill is in the 80th percentile in the league with regard to that statistic, less than a standard deviation above the league average. Don't let the 9th rank fool you.[/QUOTE]
the distance between tannehill and palmer isnt close.. tannehill is in the same company as matt ryan, tony romo, matt stafford, and Big Ben.. as a pure qb, those are qbs i put him in the company off in terms of passing talent.
the distance between tannehill and palmer isnt close.. tannehill is in the same company as matt ryan, tony romo, matt stafford, and Big Ben.. as a pure qb, those are qbs i put him in the company off in terms of passing talent.
Check the all-time best single season list. Tannehill is 86th. Note the QBs who are higher on the list how they did numerically with regard to the stat you're talking about.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr/_/year/0/type/alltime-season/sort/cwepaPassesCondensed
Next thing we know, you're going to try to make an argument in favor of the communist party.
Better than Sanchez
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Typically judge's orders for medical records come into play in routine civil matters, such as injury cases. This is only because HIPAA created an extra layer of privacy, and with the order medical facilities have no objection. It also appears in divorce cases. As far as whether or not a judge would grant discovery of Martin's records is above my pay grade, but it's not inconceivable. It certainly seems relevant if Martin claims emotional and mental injuries directly resulting from harm by Incognito. But it doesn't seem as if Martin's claim is against Incognito, it's more broadly against the Dolphins Organization and the NFL. Incognito would be a third party, and I would think that might limit his rights to any of that information. In addition, mental health records are different than regular medical records and are legally protected. You'd have more hoops to jump through. But theoretically...if a judge signed an order, because he deemed it relevant, then the doctor or facility has no choice but to comply, or appeal. If any of that did occur, I would think that only limited information would be necessary, to establish a timeline (i.e. dates of visits prior to the incident, and diagnosis), and not the files themselves.
All this seems to be de-escalating to a degree, and certainly both Incognito and Martin have to be careful what legal claims they make, because lawyers have a right to discovery, and they can depose individuals. Martin got paid, and Incognito had some limited lost income, and will likely play for another team, so maybe they want this to go away. The NFL has deep pockets and everyone may be satisfied in the end.
My post on the topic:
There may have been a miscommunication among the people involved in the original discussion in that thread, but my point was only that there are legal means by which mental health treatment records can become public, via court order. In other words, the judge can potentially exercise more power over the treatment records than either the client or the treating professional.
Of course, if one has a deeply held belief that's at odds with one I've expressed here and supported with objective evidence, then one way of maintaining the perception that one is correct is to believe one has discredited me such that nothing I say has any merit. Throw the baby out with the bathwater, if you will.
Basically what Shouright is trying to say is......a whole bunch of NOTHING.
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Here goes shou talking out his ass again
Hello...do you have a mint, perhaps some Binaca?!
