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Is Philbin A Leader of Men?

What Philbin might lack in demeanor, the coaching staff as a whole makes up for. I think of how young some of the staff are, and how they interact with the players, and how much they can relate with them. Philbin, Sherman, and Coyle are older, but they lead this group of position coaches, and they in turn run this team. Not all of them are young, but they all seem fiery. The players have definitely taken to the personality of the coaching.
 
There were a few coaching decisions by Philbin that were questionable last year (trying to ice the kicker and backfiring) but he's always had a good attitude about his past decisions and knows he has to improve in his role, as well as each member of the Fins in their roles. He doesn't appear fazed in the least bit, and I think he has a gameplan that's pretty clear to him and to the team.

Compare that to Sparano or any of our past HC's and I think it's without a doubt: so far Philbin is legit.
Does he still have more to prove? Sure, but until then I believe in the guy to get it done and make our team a winner.
 
Some do not think he has the emotion to get the best from his players.
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Where is the evidence that "emotion" gets the best from NFL players?
 
I can not believe the premise of this thread. This is a man who has been OC for a Superbowl champion. He took a rookie quarterback and an set of offensive talent that at best would be described as deficient and more honestly should be called garbage and led them to a 7-9 record. Unable to lead? What a joke.
 
Nublar7 said:
Huh? Who is asking this question or are skeptical? He did fine last year and there are numerous articles about how the players like him. He is calm, has a dry humor but is strict and respected by his players. Who is saying he is in over his head? First time I heard that.
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I like what I've seen from Philbin a lot. But too be fair most of us liked the last guy after his first season as well. What I really like about Philbin is he seems to have a vision of the kind of team he wants and stuck to hat plan despite having deficient personnel. For instance sticking with the up tempo no huddle offense he wanted despite having a rookie QB and lacking he type of WR's needed for that type of offense. Hopefully this gives the players that are still here a big advantage having played in at system last year. He also seems to have an idea of he pieces he needs to run his offense, hopefully we got this in the offseason. At this point I'm not worried about Philbin one bit. If I see a sluggish offense ill start worrying.
 
Southbeach 2 said:
FWIW, this is a question around South Beach. Some do not think he has the emotion to get the best from his players. Others believe that he walks softly but, carries a big stick (aka cut from team). Still others believe that he is in over his head.

Your opinions?
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He reminds me of Tony Dungy. Calm, reserved, smart...but committed to a system. That seemed to work out well enough for Tampa and Indy.
 
Who gives a **** what anyone on South Beach has to say.

Think about this. They like Kim Kardashian. That tells me all I need to know about south beach and how much brain power resides there.
 
To me, this is one of two questions that we'll get answered this year. Is Philbin the man to be coach? I think he earned some respect and didn't hurt himself in year one, and I wish him the best in year two. He will have some interesting challenges this year putting together a team with many new talents and with higher expectations.

Question #2 for this year is whether Tannehill will improve and continue to develop as we hope he will. Philbin has a huge impact on that as well.

If Philbin likes challenges, I think he's at the right place. What a great opportunity.
 
interesting thread...but not sure why philbin would be questioned...first thing a head coach needs to do is find his qb to hitch his wagon to and pretty much you ride or die off that decision...lucky for philbin he's got a good one...after that it's mostly about motivating the players and getting them to show up for you each and every week and outside of after we beat the jets in new york and came home feeling our oats and got destroyed by a at best average titans team and a bad qb where virtually everyone no showed and week 17 when the players were already thinking about the offseason philbins players showed up every week and gave it their all...i'll take a coach that the players give him max effort for 14 out of 16 weeks in year one of a plain and simple rebuild season no problem...

the players respect and play hard for philbin...the only thing we need now to win em over for the long haul is the wins...and that will come with the qb he's hitched his wagon to
 
hooshoops said:
interesting thread...but not sure why philbin would be questioned...first thing a head coach needs to do is find his qb to hitch his wagon to and pretty much you ride or die off that decision...lucky for philbin he's got a good one...after that it's mostly about motivating the players and getting them to show up for you each and every week and outside of after we beat the jets in new york and came home feeling our oats and got destroyed by a at best average titans team and a bad qb where virtually everyone no showed and week 17 when the players were already thinking about the offseason philbins players showed up every week and gave it their all...i'll take a coach that the players give him max effort for 14 out of 16 weeks in year one of a plain and simple rebuild season no problem...

the players respect and play hard for philbin...the only thing we need now to win em over for the long haul is the wins...and that will come with the qb he's hitched his wagon to
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I think it's a bit more than that hoops, otherwise anybody with a good QB and a handful of Al Pacino quotes could be a good head coach. Sparano did a nice job coming in and motivating a bunch of players who had given up to work hard and get rewarded with a championship game. But he was very limited strategically, he was behind the curve on the evolution of the game and his motivational box of tricks got pretty stale pretty quickly. He had a pathological love of fieldgoals too.

Philbin is a guy who does everything Sparano couldn't do. He is the anti-Sparano (apart from the o-line coaching origins). He's the planner in the coaching hierarchy - the strategist. He has put a huge amount of effort into structuring what goes on off the field to maximise performance on it. He is the guy looking at the development of the sport and where opportunities exist to exploit that development. There is no question in my mind that he is NOT going to slavishly try to replicate the Packers in Miami.

He's also quite ballsy - something Sparano definitely wasn't. Sparano would never have started Tannehill in Game 1. Sparano wouldn't have let Bush go in the offseason. Sparano wouldn't have tried the fake punt, the onside kick, the (unsuccessful) fake field goal, the 2-point conversions. I say that knowing Sherman did the playcalling (in its own way a ballsy decision by Philbin).

Hopefully, with this approach we win more. Because then, success will beget confidence and more success. In that version of events, there's less reliance on "rah, rah, rah" style motivation and it's more about a culture of performance.

Where I have a reservation about Philbin is if we don't win as much as we want. We have two fairly reserved, cerebral leaders in Philbin and Tannehill - neither of which are inspirational figures in the stereotypical sense. If the wheels come off in some way (injury, bad luck, poor play) Philbin better hope Sherman and Coyle and Turner and Rogers and Campbell and O'Keefe all fill the motivational void and get guys fired up.

So, for the long run, I am pretty confident we have one of the right guys. If we get a prolonged dip in the short run, Philbin might need to lean on a few guys so that he's still around for the long-run.
 
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