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James wont block Cam Wake, Mario Williams, Chandler Jones or Ninkovich, Coples, Pace

It may have been a reach we could have drafted him in a trade down but he changes a lot of things it is a huge need will help Ryan tannehill be able to stay on his feet and not get hit so he becomes better from this pick as well our running game is better from this pick as well so this pick does change quite a bit of things
 
Hey, I agree that I don't like taking the 5th best tackle on the board -- a right tackle -- at #19 when we are getting offers to trade back into the 20s and scoop up another day 2 pick. But the idea that this guy is going to suck? Uhm, I would bet against it. He's not making a position switch -- this guy has acquitted himself well in about 50 games as a starting RT in the SEC.

Let's not pretend this guy is chopped liver just because we don't like where he was picked.
 
Judging by many posts here...its no wonder why this team (and town) has experienced losing seasons for over 5 years. The expectations here are minimal. Seemingly many gum chewing fans are satisfied occupying the cellar of the AFC East and the NFL in general. Many have forgotten "why you play the game..." prolly due to Madden xbox intoxication.

Fins needs are so widespread that any other player position would have had more day 1 impact than making a "reach" at a RT that by most accounts could have been had in the 2nd round.

Who might share this opinion? Charley Casserly, who is far more knowledgeable than you says so. Many who know the business will concede this was a reach pick, made for reasons other than BPA as many of you have written here.

How do I know this kid cant block Wake? or any other NFL pass rush specialists? because he's never ever done so. So the evidence is with my rationale, not your kool aid drinken hysteria.

My Thread is closer to fact supported by well written documented scouting reports, broad league wide observation of this selection, and even the admission of many here who point to all the off field issues with the Fins OL last year.

The 58 sacks were a result of many failures across the entire OL, not just RT. The entire OL sucked. Tanny was responsible for sacks, RB's responsible, WR's not getting open, play calling, bad scheme/play design, all were contributors to 58 sacks, and one reach at #19 RT pick of a second tier talent wont fix any of it.

We can only hope Hickey has more balls than he displayed yesterday.

Lets move on children.
 
Los Dolfins said:
Judging by many posts here...its no wonder why this team (and town) has experienced losing seasons for over 5 years. The expectations here are minimal. Seemingly many gum chewing fans are satisfied occupying the cellar of the AFC East and the NFL in general. Many have forgotten "why you play the game..." prolly due to Madden xbox intoxication.

Fins needs are so widespread that any other player position would have had more day 1 impact than making a "reach" at a RT that by most accounts could have been had in the 2nd round.

Who might share this opinion? Charley Casserly, who is far more knowledgeable than you says so. Many who know the business will concede this was a reach pick, made for reasons other than BPA as many of you have written here.

How do I know this kid cant block Wake? or any other NFL pass rush specialists? because he's never ever done so. So the evidence is with my rationale, not your kool aid drinken hysteria.

My Thread is closer to fact supported by well written documented scouting reports, broad league wide observation of this selection, and even the admission of many here who point to all the off field issues with the Fins OL last year.

The 58 sacks were a result of many failures across the entire OL, not just RT. The entire OL sucked. Tanny was responsible for sacks, RB's responsible, WR's not getting open, play calling, bad scheme/play design, all were contributors to 58 sacks, and one reach at #19 RT pick of a second tier talent wont fix any of it.

We can only hope Hickey has more balls than he displayed yesterday.

Lets move on children.
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If the entire OL sucked, then why do you hate this pick? You want another CB/S and let our worst problem linger on? how stupid can u b?
 
Guys no guard went in the first that should tell you something. The 5th rated tackle is better value then a guard and maybe everybody agrees that the dropoff at tackle is pretty big after james
 
Los Dolfins said:
Judging by many posts here...its no wonder why this team (and town) has experienced losing seasons for over 5 years. The expectations here are minimal. Seemingly many gum chewing fans are satisfied occupying the cellar of the AFC East and the NFL in general. Many have forgotten "why you play the game..." prolly due to Madden xbox intoxication.

Fins needs are so widespread that any other player position would have had more day 1 impact than making a "reach" at a RT that by most accounts could have been had in the 2nd round.

Who might share this opinion? Charley Casserly, who is far more knowledgeable than you says so. Many who know the business will concede this was a reach pick, made for reasons other than BPA as many of you have written here.

How do I know this kid cant block Wake? or any other NFL pass rush specialists? because he's never ever done so. So the evidence is with my rationale, not your kool aid drinken hysteria.

My Thread is closer to fact supported by well written documented scouting reports, broad league wide observation of this selection, and even the admission of many here who point to all the off field issues with the Fins OL last year.

The 58 sacks were a result of many failures across the entire OL, not just RT. The entire OL sucked. Tanny was responsible for sacks, RB's responsible, WR's not getting open, play calling, bad scheme/play design, all were contributors to 58 sacks, and one reach at #19 RT pick of a second tier talent wont fix any of it.

We can only hope Hickey has more balls than he displayed yesterday.

Lets move on children.
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So what you're saying we should have drafted a guy that can be the entire offensive line, the running back and quarterback? Gotcha. Good post.
 
During Casserly's tenure as GM, the Texans went 4–12 in their inaugural season of 2002, then improved to 5–11 in 2003 and 7–9 in 2004 before slumping to a disappointing 2–14 record in 2005. During the 2005 season, while the Texans were 1–12, team owner Bob McNair hired former NFL coach Dan Reeves to serve as a consultant to help McNair evaluate his team.[5] After the end of the season, head coach Dom Capers was fired by McNair. Casserly was criticized for a number of personnel moves, including trading second and third round picks to the Oakland Raiders for Phillip Buchanon in 2005. Buchanon was a poor player for the Texans in 2005, and was released by the team after the first four games of the 2006 season. In a public interview, McNair criticized the trade for Buchanon, saying that the front office had not done its homework.

Subsequent to the Texans' 2006 NFL Draft and after the Texans' 2-14 season, Casserly left the organization on June 1, 2006. Casserly sought a job in the National Football League front office, but was passed over for the job.[6] He was succeeded as General Manager by Rick Smith. Casserly's work with the Texans has been subject to much criticism.[7]
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Hell Yeah, I'd as soon listen to Rich Kotite for head coaching counsel b4 I would Charley Casserly for GM advice :idk:
 
Los Dolfins said:
The 58 sacks were a result of many failures across the entire OL, not just RT. The entire OL sucked. Tanny was responsible for sacks, RB's responsible, WR's not getting open, play calling, bad scheme/play design, all were contributors to 58 sacks, and one reach at #19 RT pick of a second tier talent wont fix any of it.
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Entire OL huh...whatever will we do of it? Oh yeah, get the best LT prospect on the market, the best run blocking OG on the market, and one of the best RTs in the draft. So basically damn near everything possible to fix the OL NOW. Play calling/play design- get a new OC. RBs responsible- get a pass blocking RB in moreno. So we have done absolutely everything possible to fix every problem that is fixable this offseason.

Quit complaining. Healthy, intelligent, athletic, consistent fat boys are wonderful players to have when you are trying to keep your franchise QB standing.
 
Maybe the trades that Hickey was getting calls from were too late in the 1st -- perhaps he felt that James wouldn't be there anymore, thus making the trade essentially not worth it if no other zone-blocking RT's are available that grade out as high.

[Begin Damage Control Homerism]:
I hate to sound mega-homer-y, but you have to commend the guy for biting the bullet and getting the best RT for our squad. This is not a good-looking pick by any means, and especially for his First draft pick in his GM career, I'm guessing he knows well and long that he doesn't look great right now in the media and fan's eyes. But it's what had to be done. Not every team went through a Bullygate last year and lost 2 starting lineman. He made the call and now we will highly-likely have a solid RT starter week 1 and on. Tannehill will be better for it, the running game and WR's will be better for it, Lazor's offense will be better for it, and Philbin can rest assured he will have a competent O-Line this year to get him a good chance into the playoffs.
 
...yes, because Jake Long single handed won us games...because the fins have been perennial playoff contenders, and super bowl winners....so lets go ahead and reach for a pure RT, second tier talent, coulda been had in 2nd round...to fix everything that ails this team. Smart. Im sure you all are GM's at your night jobs.
 
If you actually watch tape he can block anybody you put him against, including Clowney
 
Los Dolfins said:
...yes, because Jake Long single handed won us games...because the fins have been perennial playoff contenders, and super bowl winners....so lets go ahead and reach for a pure RT, second tier talent, coulda been had in 2nd round...to fix everything that ails this team. Smart. Im sure you all are GM's at your night jobs.
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Shame there arent 6 more rounds to get more players.
 
Well last time we picked a tackle round 1 we increased our wins 11 fold. Who knows?
 
Los Dolfins said:
Judging by many posts here...its no wonder why this team (and town) has experienced losing seasons for over 5 years. The expectations here are minimal. Seemingly many gum chewing fans are satisfied occupying the cellar of the AFC East and the NFL in general. Many have forgotten "why you play the game..." prolly due to Madden xbox intoxication.

Fins needs are so widespread that any other player position would have had more day 1 impact than making a "reach" at a RT that by most accounts could have been had in the 2nd round.

Who might share this opinion? Charley Casserly, who is far more knowledgeable than you says so. Many who know the business will concede this was a reach pick, made for reasons other than BPA as many of you have written here.

How do I know this kid cant block Wake? or any other NFL pass rush specialists? because he's never ever done so. So the evidence is with my rationale, not your kool aid drinken hysteria.

My Thread is closer to fact supported by well written documented scouting reports, broad league wide observation of this selection, and even the admission of many here who point to all the off field issues with the Fins OL last year.

The 58 sacks were a result of many failures across the entire OL, not just RT. The entire OL sucked. Tanny was responsible for sacks, RB's responsible, WR's not getting open, play calling, bad scheme/play design, all were contributors to 58 sacks, and one reach at #19 RT pick of a second tier talent wont fix any of it.

We can only hope Hickey has more balls than he displayed yesterday.

Lets move on children.
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58 sacks. You don't have to play Madden to understand how terrible the line was. The fact you would have done nothing to fix it in the first says more about your ineptitude concerning the basics of football. A team will never meet expectations having a terrible line...ask Atlanta. They have all the playmakers in the world with a PB QB.....and finished 4-12. All the while Tannehill put up numbers comparable to Ryan and winning 4 more games and beating ATL head to head. I will keep pointing to ATL to poke holes into your theory.

What did ATL do after a 44 sack season on their franchise QB? Get a WR? TE? A 'play maker'? Nope.
 
Los Dolfins said:
Judging by many posts here...its no wonder why this team (and town) has experienced losing seasons for over 5 years. The expectations here are minimal. Seemingly many gum chewing fans are satisfied occupying the cellar of the AFC East and the NFL in general. Many have forgotten "why you play the game..." prolly due to Madden xbox intoxication.

Fins needs are so widespread that any other player position would have had more day 1 impact than making a "reach" at a RT that by most accounts could have been had in the 2nd round.

Who might share this opinion? Charley Casserly, who is far more knowledgeable than you says so. Many who know the business will concede this was a reach pick, made for reasons other than BPA as many of you have written here.

How do I know this kid cant block Wake? or any other NFL pass rush specialists? because he's never ever done so. So the evidence is with my rationale, not your kool aid drinken hysteria.

My Thread is closer to fact supported by well written documented scouting reports, broad league wide observation of this selection, and even the admission of many here who point to all the off field issues with the Fins OL last year.

The 58 sacks were a result of many failures across the entire OL, not just RT. The entire OL sucked. Tanny was responsible for sacks, RB's responsible, WR's not getting open, play calling, bad scheme/play design, all were contributors to 58 sacks, and one reach at #19 RT pick of a second tier talent wont fix any of it.

We can only hope Hickey has more balls than he displayed yesterday.

Lets move on children.
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Well considering Wake and James have likely never even met each other, let alone played against each other, youd be right, that is evidence. Not sure about the rationale part though :crazy:
 
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