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50/50 sounds right,Brown is also a threat as a receiver.
Nice problem to have, remember last year.
 
fin13 said:
Ricky proved to be the best RB in 2002 and top 5 in 2003.
It's in the best interest of the team to showcase RW for trade bait.
Maybe just the Chargers we may end up with a dilema do we trade RB or RW I like our options.
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I don't see us ever having that dilema. Brees/Rivers is a bit different because in the case of a QB wear and tear isn't really an issue... and age is generally regarded as a plus with a QB. RB, however, is very much affected by wear and tear, and youth is the ticket.

Ronnie is a lot younger than Ricky, has no where near the amount of "hard mileage", and doesn't have the mental/off field issues that Ricky has.

We're not going to trade Ronnie. Period.
 
ricky, no no ronnie, no no ricky, wait lamar,no no, ummm who cares they should all be productive.
 
phinphanphrommi said:
I'd say it's fair that he said our problem was poor quarterbacking last year.

The only thing he doesn't mention is that it was the result of poor OL and RB play. Not to mention the truely mind tingling complexity of the gameplan Ferrster put together last year.
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I don't know that you can make a blanket statement that it was all the result of the things you named, certainly it played its part.

No one can say with a straight face that we had a QB on this roster last year or this year for that matter that would rank in the top 10 in the league, or even in the top half of the league.
 
All of this is a moot point concerning Ricky right now anyways. Until he actually steps foot onto the practice field and serves his suspenstion, there is no argument. We'll see how he runs in preseason, but once the regular season starts, we're looking at Gordon and Brown as our two primary runners and who starts will obviously be decided in TC. Clayton is way off base though to say our QB position was what hurt us the most. Acutally, it was the O-Line, without that, runners don't run, passers have no time to pass, receivers have no time to run a route. If our O-line improves, then obviously with the talent we have in the skill positions, ie Boston, Chambers, Bookers, McMichael, Brown, and Gordon, to surround Gus and A.J. with...I think that's an above average offsense for once, and finally we have someone that can call plays and take advantage of mismatches... let's play ball already!
 
Schleprock said:
So wait....Steve McNair was a starter his first season? Daunte Culpepper was a starter his first season? Carson palmer started his first season? Steven Jackson started last year? Chris Perry started last year?
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QB's and RB's are totally different. Steven Jackson was a BPA pick, he could have gone as high as 6 last year. When you draft a runner at 2, you obviously need a RB. Runningback's start when drafted that high. John Clayton said Ricky Williams will be the back up to Ronnie Brown, he didn't say Ricky is a career back up. We don't know where Ricky will be when he comes back. Yes, our passing game was horrible last year, that was a major reason why we were so bad. We lost games with the Passing game, if our passing game was a little better, it would have opened up some more running oppurtunities. It's a new year, let's hope for the best.
 
Sorry, Ronnie is a rookie, a young buck still tender. The adjustment to the NFL is tuff. They will spilt time. Ricky may be the back up, but only in the sense that he's not the starter. I would expect about the same amount of carries if not more for Ricky. Ricky is also lighter this year, so he'll have his speed back.

Will be fun to watch this RB battle :)
 
Linehan's system usually employs multiple running backs. I think RB and RW numbers will be similiar.
 
I have to disagree, the biggest problem with the offense last year (minus coaching and lack of direction) was at runningback. Zero defensive players or coaches were scared of Sammy Morris.
 
Perhaps they will showcase Ricky before the trade deadline and possibly trade him to a contender with runningback problems?
 
BlueFin said:
I don't know that you can make a blanket statement that it was all the result of the things you named, certainly it played its part.

No one can say with a straight face that we had a QB on this roster last year or this year for that matter that would rank in the top 10 in the league, or even in the top half of the league.
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You'll hear no arguement from me there. Perhaps "mostly caused" would have been more appropriate.

My main issue is that I don't think it's unfair to say that the number of problems we had last year has cause our first look at Feeley to be extemely unreliable.

IMO, he could do just as badly with all of those problems fixed... or he could show himself to be a top 15 or so QB who can get the job done.

I was all for drafting a QB this year... mainly because I want someone who is a lock to be top 10, with frequent top 5 honors. I also am a bit concerned about Feeley's late start... even if he does prove to be an above average QB. I suppose on my first note though, I might be a bit spoiled by having grown up with Marino. I suppose you don't even really need a superstar gun slinging QB, as proven by the Patriots.... but hell it's more fun to watch! Also, recently it seems that old age and late start QBs are the the in thing.

Really, I guess I'm just content to play wait and see with the QB position this year. I like a lot more of the talent comming out next year than I did this year, so I'm confident that we can get our QB next year (draft or FA) if we find that we don't like what we have this year.
 
Dol-Fan Dupree said:
I have to disagree, the biggest problem with the offense last year (minus coaching and lack of direction) was at runningback. Zero defensive players or coaches were scared of Sammy Morris.
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Zero coaches were scared of Feeley too. Clayton was partly right.
 
We had practically every problem you could have on offense and each one of the exascerbated the others poor RB play hurt the OL. poor OL hurt the QB. poor QB play hurt the WR. poor play selection hurt everyone. etc etc etc.
 
Justasportsfan said:
Zero coaches were scared of Feeley too. Clayton was partly right.
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Coaches had more to worry about from Feeley than they did from Morris. Feeley at least as the ability for a good play or two. Morris had the ability for a 10 yard run.
 
Why are people so mad that he said Ricky is a backup, if Ricky isn't our backup then Ronnie is and I don't feel any better about that? I would rather our 2nd overall pick (on a position that we NEED someone and is an easier position to contribute right away unlike QB) started than a guy who has been out of football for a year and still trying to get in football shape.

Why the anger towards Ricky being our backup? Is Ronnie being a backup a better solution???
 
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