Just got back from Philly, and I'm forced to remove the homer glasses.

[Rich L]

FWIW: All the Philly fans I know here.... LOVE AJ.

Not one thinks he's a bum.

They usually blame his surrounding cast for his current woes.

I guess we shall see.

 

[SammySmif]

You never read my post right if you think I was on or off AJ's bandwagon. I have always thought he was bad, gus was bad and sage was bad. They are all great 2nd QBs, but not starters. We don't have a starter.

Yet, there are always posts on "why [insert bad qb] should start/will have a great year.." it just shows lack of knowledge and homerism.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

You never read my post right if you think I was on or off AJ's bandwagon. I have always thought he was bad, gus was bad and sage was bad. They are all great 2nd QBs, but not starters. We don't have a starter.

Yet, there are always posts on "why [insert bad qb] should start/will have a great year.." it just shows lack of knowledge and homerism.

The NFL is a multi-billion dollar per year industry. Someone with your ability to forecast the future performance of players at such a critical position should surely be able to make several hundred thousand dollars per year in consulting fees to NFL teams.

So tell me, which teams currently retain your services? You would be a moron to not get rich from your clearly advanced skills.

 

[-81- McMichael]

You never read my post right if you think I was on or off AJ's bandwagon. I have always thought he was bad, gus was bad and sage was bad. They are all great 2nd QBs, but not starters. We don't have a starter.

Yet, there are always posts on "why [insert bad qb] should start/will have a great year.." it just shows lack of knowledge and homerism.

No, Sammy, it's actually pretty darn clear that you think AJ is bupkus.

And, I'm afraid it's you that hasn't read my post correctly (if at all).

Allow me to "take it down a notch":

At least for this conversation, I could give a ratt's @$$ who starts and who can or can't take the team to the "promised land." Got it?

What bothered me was that you feel it's necessary to reduce your fellow FINFANS to the level of "moron" (a term otherwise reserved only for fans of our AFC East opponents) simply because some of us are optimistic about the possibility of AJ or Gus or whomever doing really well this year.

Or, in other words... they don't agree with your "knowledge of the game" and so... they are morons. Man, it must be nice being omnicient, omnipotent AND omnipresent. I'll translate: all knowing, all powerful and - well, you should have the last one by now.

Dude, get off your high horse. People are entitled to root for "their guy." If you don't happen to like that player, bash him (the player - not the poster). Or, better yet, bash the boneheaded plays of that particular player.

Example: "AJ seems to stare down his receivers. That's a stupid thing to do. Why can't he stop that? We'll go nowhere with him if he doesn't fix that."

Jesus, was that hard?

:shakeno:

 

[FinsNCanes]

All I have to say is if Dilfer can win a SB so can Gus/AJ. Granted we probably won't have the D they had, but things could fall into place (like they seem to do with the Pats). Because if you really look back at the last preseason game and it was a regular game, and say Gus hit Boston/Gilmore who were WIDE OPEN, that's 14 points. That's huge. Long ball is something we have been missing since Dan.

 

[Agent51]

Was in Philly/Jersey shore for past 2 weeks. Needless to say, it is all about the Eagles up there. Had to watch 2 pre-season games just to see some football. I had no computer access and got zero Dolphins info while there. But I had a chance to be an impartial observer of a successful franchise, and it forced me to realize we have a long way to go.

My observations:

-Eagles have the opposite strengths and weaknesses on offense. Besides TO, they have no decent receivers. Westbrook is not a stunning RB, although a good receiving back. But they have an awesome O-line and a great starting QB.

-Eagles fans laugh at us about the Feeley trade. No really, one laughed right in my face and asked if we wanted to give a 3rd round pick for their backup punter.

-Eagles fans may be obnoxious, but they are loyal and knowledgeable. They hold the players, coaches and owners accountable.

-McNabb is not a great QB from a passing standpoint. A surprisingly large percentage of his passes are low or behind his targets; his receivers make tough catches that make him look good. But he has what we're lacking. Poise, confidence, and the ability to keep a play alive and make something positive happen, but not out of desperation. His teammates know that and so they work hard for him until the whistle blows.

-Defensively, they are stronger and deeper than us. We like to brag about JT and Zach, but Kearse and Trotter do OK also, plus they've got a lot more talent surrounding them than Zach and JT. They were deep enough at D-line to basically cut Simon.

-Which brings me to the most important observation: they're front office and administration are top-notch. They know how to build and run a team. They handled the TO thing perfectly, and now he's back in camp, quiet and catching TD's. They let Corey Simon go, but he has stated he will always love the Eagles and Andy Reid personally. They treat their fans well and with respect.

So my conclusions:

-We're moving in the right direction, but we've got a lot further to go than any of us would like to admit. Best and most important thing we did was can the old regime and hire Saban. I think Saban can get us there, just not this year. After years of bozos, I think we finally have a front office that can be on par with the Eagles.

-We can argue all we want about Gus vs AJ, but we're not going anywhere with either of theses stiffs and Saban knows it.

-O-line will take at least a year or two to develop, but could actually become a strength long term. They are young and have a great line coach.

-I fear we've wasted the JT and Zach years; this defense has aged before our eyes and the youth movement has already started (Poole, Crowder, Daniels, etc). I expect to lose Zach and Jt within the next 2 years.

- Overall, big picture is good, but this year will be a bit frustrating as we won't see the results we want fast enough to suit the fickle South Florida fan base.

Anyway, just wanted to report after stepping out of our backyard and taking off my aqua and teal shades!

Nice post dude. While this really has NOTHING to do with the topic, aside from it being about Eagles, my best friend lives in Hawaii, on Oahu to be exact (where the Pro Bowl is played) and works at the oldest nightclub in Waikiki, which is also one of the most popular. He told me that last year during the Pro Bowl he got to meet like EVERYONE (he showed me pics of him with them, he is 6'6 and some of the dudes DWARFED him) and he told me that TO and McNabb are exact OPPOSITS of what they seem on TV. He told me that TO was the chillest dude ever, wicked cool and laid back, even gave him pointers on running routes and stuff (he is a TE for Hawaii) and when he met Mcnabb he was a total D*CK. He said he kinda was just like "hey man, tough luck, you'll get em next year" you know, like when you're trying to make small talk with someone, and McNabb was like "Yeah, what the f*ck do you know?" and turned around and looked at this guy who had an eagles jersey on and goes "go buy me a drink" like a total a$$. IDK, just some random info on how they come off on TV compared to how they REALLY are.

 

[Sauceman]

The only reason why Philly has a "top notch" front office and are in control of their cap space is basically because they cheat the cap.

 

[SammySmif]

At least for this conversation, I could give a ratt's @$$ who starts and who can or can't take the team to the "promised land." Got it?

What bothered me was that you feel it's necessary to reduce your fellow FINFANS to the level of "moron" (a term otherwise reserved only for fans of our AFC East opponents) simply because some of us are optimistic about the possibility of AJ or Gus or whomever doing really well this year.

Seriously, overeact a little more please. I'm sorry, but I don't need to be an NFL scout to know that Feeley sucks. It is called common knowledge.

The smartass post by finfan jus proves my point. So sensitive because I can state the obvious. Look, if these guys were so great, why can't Saban decide who will start after week 3 of preseason? Yeah man, I deserve 250 grand because I don't think with my heart and say Feeley is so great.

This is just obvious. You probably thought Fiedler would be great too. How long did it take you to figure out that Wany was a horrible coach? There are hundreds of thousands of dolphans. Just because I call a few morons doesn't mean you have to whine about it.

I understood your point the first 5 paragraphs you posted. It was still a pointless post because if you think AJ or Gus is going to be the starter next year, you are a homer and know nothing about football. Go ahead and argue if it makes you feel better, but facts are facts. I know YOU don't care who starts, but I wasn't talking specificly to YOU, so quit crying.

 

[DPlus47]

He told me that TO was the chillest dude ever, wicked cool and laid back, even gave him pointers on running routes and stuff (he is a TE for Hawaii) and when he met Mcnabb he was a total D*CK. He said he kinda was just like "hey man, tough luck, you'll get em next year" you know, like when you're trying to make small talk with someone, and McNabb was like "Yeah, what the f*ck do you know?" and turned around and looked at this guy who had an eagles jersey on and goes "go buy me a drink" like a total a$$. IDK, just some random info on how they come off on TV compared to how they REALLY are.

i've heard similar things about TO, essentially that the TO we see is a character and that he's pretty genuine in person. i think a few columnists have written about it as well. and mcnabb doesn't have the greatest reputation as being friendly. i do like both their games, though.

 

[DPlus47]

The only reason why Philly has a "top notch" front office and are in control of their cap space is basically because they cheat the cap.

if that's true, they won't really get punished for it. look at denver. that's how they won it all. i don't necessarily think philly cheats the cap; they're notorious lowballers to their veterans (except mcnabb).

 

[P4E]

Burlington County Times. Not sure if you're familiar with it. We primarily cover a lot of high school sports, which is what I write about, but we do a lot of Phillies, Eagles, Flyers and 76ers. Hope to work my way up to doing the NFL one day!

<--- Used to live in Burlington City. Now in Mercer. Good to see my neighbors posting.:)

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

The smartass post by finfan jus proves my point. So sensitive because I can state the obvious. Look, if these guys were so great, why can't Saban decide who will start after week 3 of preseason? Yeah man, I deserve 250 grand because I don't think with my heart and say Feeley is so great.

You didn't answer my question.....

Here's another one. If Gus and AJ are sooooooo baaaadddddd, WTF is Saban doing? Why is either on the team? I'll even answer your question. Saban still can't decide because neither has separated from the other. It has nothing to do with how "great" they are. Is it really any easier to select between two equally great QBs and two equally crappy QBs?

The problem with "experts" like you is that you see no room between great QB and crappy QB. If someone disagrees that they are crappy, you immediately jump and come up with all kinds of ridiculous claims as to why they are not great. Makes no sense. Like most things, the truth lies somewhere in the middle, but for people like you, there is no middle ground.

One other thing, to claim that they are great 2nd QBs but terrible starters makes no sense. The whole point of a backup QB is to be in a position to play and possibly start if the starter gets hurt. You cannot be a great backup if you are a terrible starting QB. It makes no sense. A backup QB is not a relief pitcher. He plays the game the same way as the starter. A team might have to alter their offense to account for different or lesser skills by the backup, but they cannot afford to have a backup QB that has no bùsiness being on the field.

 

[CRAZYDOLFAN305]

I think you are totally wrong and I think those obnoxious a holes have gotten to your head. First off, Kevin Carter says wqe are alot further along than the ST louis Rams were when he started there. Secondly, Our biggest prob was coaching last year, not talent like all these weasels out there think. Just go down the line, first off, we have two stud RB's that will punish teams in the 4th quarter. Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams. Randy Mcmicheal is one of the better TE's in football. CC and co. can get the job done and is a deeper bunch than Philly by far. Our defense is completely revamped and teams have no clue as to what is going to hit them.

Fact is, we are lot better than 4-12 by miles and miles. The porblem is, that no one will believe it till it gets executed and is seen.

Amen Brother...Just preach it

 

[Sauceman]

if that's true, they won't really get punished for it. look at denver. that's how they won it all. i don't necessarily think philly cheats the cap; they're notorious lowballers to their veterans (except mcnabb).

There was a big article on it online but I don't remember where. Alot of talk about it as well last offseason. The only thing I really remember is they do something with big bonuses that's separated in two categories: 1) Likely able to achieve and 2) Unlikely able to achieve. The second doesn't go toward the cap, so they throw that in but the players end up getting paid anyway.

If someone knows more about it please step in. :)

 

[islandah]

I really don't have time for this, so I'll be quick and to the point.

You said this of McNabb:

"Poise, confidence, and the ability to keep a play alive and make something positive happen, but not out of desperation. His teammates know that and so they work hard for him until the whistle blows."

Yeah, just like the poise and ESPECIALLY the confidence he showed in the Super Bowl. Pa-leeeeaze! Just stop it. I'm still wondering how long it's going to take for people to get off the McNabb bandwagon. He's a very nice guy and a very good athlete. Kindly leave it at that. I'm really tired of people making this guy out to be something he's not. Seriously, some people actually take bets on how many passes he'll throw at his receivers' FEET in a given game.

Man's been in the NFL for how long and he's still got a problem with this?!?

First of all, you're judging him on 1 game, which BTW we've not been able to get to in recent history. Plus I think I specifically made the point about him throwing low and behind. And yes, his teammates believe in him. Do our guys believe AJ will keep a play alive and then make a smart decision?