Kickoffs To Become Boring But Safer?

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  1. NYC#1finsfan

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    Yet we still have 4 preseason games.

    Hypocrisy much?
     
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    IMO, it is the most dangerous play with the littlest reward in terms of excitement......seems pretty rare that it actually results on n big plays. I’m fine in this case of siding with making it a safer play.
     
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    +1.
     
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    I don’t mind. Like 50% always have a block in the back flag anyway.
     
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    Boring? Sounds like there will be many more long returns with the new rule.

    https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/5...nt=entry&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

    I think the returners will be able to field the ball in the end zone and still get past the 20 before encountering the first potential tackler. It would resemble a punt a lot more. The consequence of trying and failing to kick through the end zone will be a long return (like over-kicking the coverage on a punt). Maybe some will strategize to kick high and short of the goal-line?
     
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    The whole thing is stupid. It's tackle football, not two hand touch or flag football but most people don't understand that.
     
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    Everyone understands that. Most smart people understand progression though. And improving things. Sorry your precious kick return wont be as exciting, mean while, people will actually have a better quality of life after they retire. Give me a break. Anyone against such things is ridiculous.
     
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    Starters don't even play a total of one full game over 4 preseason games. Don't want to get hurt? Don't play. 4 preseason games are vital for end of the roster players to do anything possible to realize their dream and make a living.
     
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    Probably due to all their concussions.
     
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    Kick offs have the highest % of concussions out of any play. If the goal is to make the game safer, it's a play you can legislate out of the game. Changes have to be made to football to make it safer, and within 5 years we probably won't have kickoffs anymore.
     
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    You can’t be serious.:roflmao

    4 preseason games are vital for the filthy rich owners, only.

    You have pro days, combine workouts, voluntary ota’s, mandatory ota’s, minicamps, training camps, and then FOUR preseason games...

    That’s too much evaluation as is.

    Then consider the fact that most of the fringe bubble players will never make a 53 man roster anyways.

    XFL is coming though which I’m predicting is gonna be a developmental league for the NFL so there is hope for those looking to prove themselves.

    The bottom line is exhibition football is prehistoric and should be eliminated all together.
     
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    well count me in as being ''ridiculous''

    This is football, its a dangerous game. its a risk reward for these players, the risk is one play can realistically change your life forever in a negative way, but the rewards are lots of money, women, fame, wtrvr they want.

    None of these players are being forced to play in the nfl, but by making all these rule changes they have made over the past years, and this new one likely to be implemented shortly, this is not the nfl i grew up with, and i fear that soon the nfl will be unnoticeable.

    i dont wish harm on any player, but its part of the game of football, injuries are going to happen, players know the risks when they sign up to play, so if they dont want to the risks associated with football, go get another job.
     
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    Lol. Most ridiculous thinking...We should go back to leather helmets. Bet itd wet your whistle really good seeing some brains getting bashed in.

    "I paid $100 for a jersey once! I paid their salary! I. WANT. VIOLENCE!"
     
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    We need to have people (or bears) fight lions at half time while we're at it.
     
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    NFL Coaches would disagree with you...but you are sooooo right

     
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    They should let starters play a series (or two) each preseason game, and use the rest as an audition for rookies, and guys that are on the fringe....maybe leave the starters out of it it altogether like they used to do with Tomlinson if them getting hurt is too potentially ship-sinking.
     
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    So you speak for all NFL Coaches now?

    Or does this unnamed insider of yours?

    Here’s an actual clip of Belichick talking about how he uses Week 4 of the preseason to prepare for situational football...



    Funny thing is there’s no ringing endorsement for preseason games present here. In fact, he states that scrimmages are the preferred method for practicing situational football.

    New England has been at the forefront (always two steps ahead) by preparing for teams by scrimmaging with them during training camp the last several years now.

    Point being you can achieve just as much if not more player development during the off-season programs as you would during meaningless preseason games.
     
  19. Nappy Roots

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    You literally posted a video of him talking about situations in game 4 of the preseason. Of course they aren't out there working on situational stuff with backs ups/guys fighting for jobs.
     
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    No I posted a video in which he clearly says that the preseason is all about preparation for the 16 game schedule.

    Nothing about backups fighting for jobs.

    Listen, if you don’t get that these coaches already know right now in early May who realistically is gonna make the team then I seriously don’t know what to tell you.
     
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    Thank god you don't have to tell me anything. Because you are clearly wrong.
     
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    no, lets go back to your football. defenses cant do ****, will take away kickoffs, cant sneeze or look at a qb or any offensive player the wrong way, penalties on every play, ya, thats the football most fans want to see.

    no wonder the ratings are down dramatically, goodell is ruining the game. i can only imagine what the nfl will look like in 10 years from now, but hey, at least you will be watching when it goes to 2 hand touch
     
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    Ok I get it. You’ve watched every season of HardKnocks and you have a soft spot in your heart for the Chris Hogan’s of the world and even buy a custom made jersey with his nickname on the back of it. And when he gets cut you feel for him and think if only he would’ve gotten at least one more series in the preseason to show what he’s really made of, you never know he might have made the squad. You believe in the cinderella story and think the NFL overseers feel the same. You my friend, are wrong.
     
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    It's called FOOTBALL!!!!
     
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    Leather helmets would probably reduce concussions quite a lot. No one would lead with the head when tackling.
     
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    @Nappy Roots

    I gleaned absolutely nothing from your wall of text and cute gif that I didn’t already know.

    Of course it is beneficial from a players perspective to stick around for as long as possible. The later they are cut the harder it is to catch on with a new team.

    But if anything you’re are proving my point for me. Gase mentioned he struggles to even field a team.

    Maybe a compromise would be an increase in active day rosters with the abolishment of the preseason and just add a couple games to the regular season schedule and call it a day. Sprinkle in another bye week for teams and suddenly you have a better format.

    Either way more emphasis needs to be placed on practice, not the preseason.
     
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    IT"S CALLED FOOTBALL!!!!
     
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    I do not like this at all.
     
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    no more wedgies on kickoffs? what's the fun in that!
     
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    I'd be 100% ok with scrapping it altogether. Just start on the 20 and be done with it. I'm sure the league wouldn't really want to lose those extra commercial slots though.
     
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    Kickoffs are boring to begin with, and as someone else has noted, there's a flag the majority of times something interesting happens.

    I like what Greg Schianno has suggested. In place of kickoff, make the team that would otherwise be kicking have the ball on its own 30 yard line at 4th down and 20. Most of the time there will be a punt, where there are fewer injuries. But you might actually get more instances of teams trying to keep the ball, which adds excitement.
     
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    By not wanting changes that limit the chance of life threatening/changing injury simply for your entertainment, you kinda are.
     
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    Yup. You could take kickers out of the equation completely and improve the game. Punters too. There is zero need for them and they have too much impact on a game where they get like 7 combined snaps. It's needed to be done for quite some time.

    Back to soccer, fellas.
     
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    You throwing a temper tantrum doesn't change the fact that they are trying to improve the life of the players. Your tantrum makes it seem as though you value entertainment more than the lives of others.

    Oh I know.....IT"S CALLED FOOTBALL!!!!
     
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