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But you also hear police say someone is not a suspect because they're not a suspect. If investigators told him we need you back here now to talk to us that's one thing. If they said when you get back in town we want to talk to you it's another. For all we know investigators may have been okay with talking to him after the draft. People don't know what's going on with Collins and police, but are assuming the worse. Police have said he's not a suspect, but he had a relationship with the victim and they want to talk to him to see if he had information that might help them solve the case. People are taking that information and saying that means he's a suspect in a murder case, when nobody has said that.

I'm not saying it means one thing or the other; I'm saying it's a potential problem that we'd be smart to steer clear of based upon the minimal information available right now. If a team has some inside information that confirms he really isn't a suspect, fine, but short of that it's best to steer clear and not draft a guy who's wanted for questioning in a murder investigation. There are lots of players available in the draft who aren't wanted for questioning in a murder investigation. We should go in that direction.
 
I stay FAAAR away. NE was warned about Hernandez from Florida HC. Now we've ALL been warned about this guy. The cops want to talk to him, that's enough for me.

Warned about what? That he dated a girl who was recently murdered? That is ALL the information we have.

Use your ****ing heads people.
 
You better believe a ALOT of teams are beating the bushes trying to find out what the real story is here, or at least as close as anyone can reasonably figure out.
 
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 4m4 minutes ago
NFL rejected La'el Collins' request to be removed from draft until police complete murder investigation, per source. No supp draft for him.
 
I question the timing of the request to interview (Collins) him. Not sure how long ago the victim was murdered or how long ago the police found out Collins was a former boyfriend. But for sure they found out she was pregnent during the autospy at the lastest, and want to speak to the father, at very least to clear him. The red flags start coming up when and if Collins might have had a reason to kill her and why they didn't talk to him sooner than the day before the draft. Maybe they tied him to phone records we just don't know.

I'd take him with one of our fifth round picks, either going to be a steal of the draft of a complete waste of a pick. But the Dolphins have wasted higher picks (#3).
 
It would be so easy for the NFL to just say go ahead, enter the supp draft.

But they won't even do it. Thats ridiculous to me, letting him enter the supp draft, benefits him, his agent, the NFL, and the team that decides to draft him.

There is 0 downside to this.
 
God no!!!!!

We have way to many needs at corner, lb and safety. A pass rushing DE is now an issue with miami due to Jordan being history. Besides, we have our tackles and we have guys like Billy Turner who can play tackle if needed. He can play left or right tackle same as James can. If we are going o-line that early than it better be a Guard, something we are hurting for.

That player should be JAMIL DOUGLAS from Az state. The most perfect ZBS guard in the draft, just as James was the best zbs tackle in last years draft. The thing everyone is going to have to get used to is Hickey doesn't give a rats azz about stupid value charts and others thoughts on where a player should be drafted. He DRAFTS FOR THE TEAM and it's schemes, not charts and mock drafters. James was an after thought and no one had him any where near where he got drafted and I am talking not talking arm chair mockers and goofy board gurus, I am talking NFL scouts and other GM's!! But who was right? Hickey drafted for the scheme and James was the perfect fit.

Douglas is this years James.

And I want guards who are true guards, not tackles we hope can play inside. We need to go playmakers and corners and pass rushers and throuout this draft.

Don't be surprised to see a DT like Malcolm Brown to pair with Suh in the first round.
 
Sorry, but something is very, very wrong.

Everyone knows whats on the line for these kids in the nfl or any sports draft. It means a big future, a set for life future with player and his immediate family living comfortable for the rest of their lives.

Yes, they are saying he is not a suspect but he is, and in a big way!! This was no when you get some time request. He was informed that he could come on his own or they would come and escort him back. If he had a choice, you think he wouldn't have stayed for the draft? Told them he would catch a flight directly after his name was called on the podium?

Of course he would have. He wasn't given a choice. That's because......., HE'S A SUSPECT!

Like I said, they knew what the draft meant for this kid, they didn't wait till the day before the draft just to fry his future. If he was not a suspect, a MAJOR suspect, they would have quietly sent an attorney or department rep to take a statement and be gone within 2 hours. This happens all the time.

But they didn't. They wanted him now and probably wanted to see if he would come down or run. If they could prove right now that he was the perp, they would have arrested him in Chicago. But, telling him to come down to answer for this incident would give them ammo for building the case against him if he chose run or hide or refuse.

Is he guilty? I don't know, YOU don't know. But everything the Detectives and D/A have done shows THEY think he is guilty of this in some portion. If his agent saw nothing connecting him and this could have been handled after the draft, he and the nfl would have filed motions and kaboshed it.

No one filed a thing and let him go, a day before the draft, uncontested!!

Collins is in deep poop.
 
2nd??? I take him in the 7th, no sooner than that.

The dude is not getting drafted tonight. He'll be there in the 7th.

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Sorry, but something is very, very wrong.

Everyone knows whats on the line for these kids in the nfl or any sports draft. It means a big future, a set for life future with player and his immediate family living comfortable for the rest of their lives.

Yes, they are saying he is not a suspect but he is, and in a big way!! This was no when you get some time request. He was informed that he could come on his own or they would come and escort him back. If he had a choice, you think he wouldn't have stayed for the draft? Told them he would catch a flight directly after his name was called on the podium?

Of course he would have. He wasn't given a choice. That's because......., HE'S A SUSPECT!

Like I said, they knew what the draft meant for this kid, they didn't wait till the day before the draft just to fry his future. If he was not a suspect, a MAJOR suspect, they would have quietly sent an attorney or department rep to take a statement and be gone within 2 hours. This happens all the time.

But they didn't. They wanted him now and probably wanted to see if he would come down or run. If they could prove right now that he was the perp, they would have arrested him in Chicago. But, telling him to come down to answer for this incident would give them ammo for building the case against him if he chose run or hide or refuse.

Is he guilty? I don't know, YOU don't know. But everything the Detectives and D/A have done shows THEY think he is guilty of this in some portion. If his agent saw nothing connecting him and this could have been handled after the draft, he and the nfl would have filed motions and kaboshed it.

No one filed a thing and let him go, a day before the draft, uncontested!!

Collins is in deep poop.

This guy gets it.
 
It would be so easy for the NFL to just say go ahead, enter the supp draft.

But they won't even do it. Thats ridiculous to me, letting him enter the supp draft, benefits him, his agent, the NFL, and the team that decides to draft him.

There is 0 downside to this.

Other than setting a precedent for players to pull out of the draft on Draft Day in future years. What if Oakland, for instance, has the number one pick next year. Whoever's the top prospect KNOWS he's going number 1, but doesn't want to play in Oakland. He will pull himself out of the draft, citing Collins doing it this year. Said prospect enters the supplemental draft, only to be selected by a team that he wants to go to. If the NFL doesn't let him pull out of the original draft, the lawyers will get involved.

Smart move by the NFL, if you ask me.
 
I see all sorts of people wanting us to draft losers like DGB, but you guys are saying no on Collins? If he makes it to 6th or 7th round, it's crazy not to draft him.

Police are not saying he's a suspect, just wanting to know about the relationship. If it turns out he is involved, cut him.
 
one of the most interesting story lines in the draft tonight will now be , how far do these coaches let this first round prospect fall?
 
So if the case is never solved he should never be allowed to play football. After all they can't rule out anybody's involvement until the case is completely solved.
 
The pats draft him, Kraft gets a clause put into the contract that if he is found guilty and does time, the Pats get 2 first round compensation pick in 2016.

Mimi draft him, he does time, Miami get pinged two picks for having a player bring the league into disrepute.
 
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