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LeGone/Positive or negative for Dolphins and Miami sports landscape

J. David Wannyheimer said:
That's definitely true of the Marlins, but I wouldn't go that far with the Panthers. The team still draws decent attendance and somehow hasn't been moved or contracted despite the fact that they've consistently been about the worst team in the NHL for like twenty damn years.

But at the same time, let's not pretend that people still have the same amount of care for the Dolphins that they once did. This franchise has become a damn joke, and it's going to take a long time -- and a lot of improvements -- to recover.
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I live in Broward and I'll explain the Panthers. I can easily score Panthers tickets whenever I want for nothing . . . its an attractive situation to have the world's largest outlet mall right next door and a family can easily plan a night around the Sawgrass area / Panthers Arena. Nobody, I mean nobody talks about the Panthers on talk radio/news . . . but they do provide a good experience. The location is a strong reason why I felt the Dolphins should try harder to look at a location in Broward, specifically that Sawgrass area.

Same care for the Dolphins, maybe not, but that easily changes with a team that can perform better than 1 playoff appearance in the past 13 years.
 
I'm an NFL guy and a Dolphins guy. I'm not much of an NBA guy. But, I would observe this. The NFL is an arrogant league and maybe there is a reason for this. But they better watch it. This is what we have have seen under Goodell's watch:

1) A monster collective bargaining battle with players that was a blood bath;
2) Constant lawsuits with ex players;
3) Tons of battles with the populace in various munipalities over new stadia;
4) The spectre of head injuries;
5) Being out of step on drug suspensions;
6) A work force out of control in terms of violence and arrests;
7) NFL players are woefully unprepared for life as most have nonguarantees and end up broke and many injured, walking around with canes and the like; and
8) The possibility of overexposure as the league wants to be on most nights.

Meanwhile, the NBA just had the hottest hot stove July they ever had. The NBA has had every one riveted in July. The league treats its ex players well instead of being embroiled in lawsuits all the time. They have a ton of young stars and just had a great new draft. Clippers just sold for $ 2 bill. NBA is doing a better job globally.

The NFL is king. But you can't just be arrogant forever and hide your head in the sand. One of the main problems is the NFL PR has been horrendous under Goodell and his arrogant regime. The players are both not talen care of and poorly behaved. The league doesn't take care of its own. There are systemic and fundamental problems you don't see in the NBA. The NFL has real problems and they may increasingly manifest themselves in ways that will work to the NBA's advantage especially on a global scale. Watch as the NBA values soar. If I were an investor, I'd invest NBA.
 
Kdawg954 said:
I live in Broward and I'll explain the Panthers. I can easily score Panthers tickets whenever I want for nothing . . . its an attractive situation to have the world's largest outlet mall right next door and a family can easily plan a night around the Sawgrass area / Panthers Arena. Nobody, I mean nobody talks about the Panthers on talk radio/news . . . but they do provide a good experience. The location is a strong reason why I felt the Dolphins should try harder to look at a location in Broward, specifically that Sawgrass area.
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Oh yeah, the team isn't really relevant in the local media, but attendance is surprisingly good. Which is kind of the opposite of the other Miami teams? Heh.
 
It's much easier for an NBA roster to be built to win. Comparing it to the NFL isn't fair. That said the Heat have had success the Dolphins never will in the rest of their history. Now that James is gone it will be really interesting to see where the Heat go and in essence where the fan loyalty in the city of Miami goes too.
 
Knowing our luck the Heat will probably do a complete rebuild and be winning again before the Dolphins win anything.
 
Doesn't matter...I'm pretty sure other cities that have winning teams in multiple sports get plenty of people to the stadiums for both sports. I also just as sure that cities with mediocre teams done have a big turnout...

In other words...if we win...they will come!
 
gafin said:
Knowing our luck the Heat will probably do a complete rebuild and be winning again before the Dolphins win anything.
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Watch for the Heat to take it on the chin for two years, add a couple of good picks, and have a ton of money available to0 play high stake FA poker in 2016 with Durant, Rose, etc.

I'm a Heat fanatic from their birth, and have no hard feelings whatsoever with James going home, just thankful for a GREAT 4 year ride and the memories. Wish him all the best.
 
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...as for how LeBron's departure affects the Miami Dolphins, I'd venture to say it won't very much, yet the favorite local pastime in the area should get a significant boost in attendance...

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All this rep about Heat fans having no loyalty is such BS. Before Lebron even came here, we were consistently near the top in attendance, with mediocre teams. Sure, its fun knowing you have a 95% chance of winning every game, but there is no excitement or expectation from the fan base after a while...we became numb to winning and treated Heat games as a quick pick me up rather than an interesting sports matchup. I am guilty of this..I actually feel some sort of relief knowing Lebron is taking his media circus elsewhere. The CITY OF MIAMI has taken so much crap from the rest of the sports world in the past 4 years only because Lebron chose to play here. It bumped up ticket prices and all the rich snobs were attending games and the real fans could probably only afford one or two games a year. I fully expect the real fans to be able to afford some tickets and actually watch some entertaining basketball games. I felt so tired having to explain myself to people when I said I was a Heat fan...as if living here my whole life wasn't a good reason.
 
Phins1020 said:
All this rep about Heat fans having no loyalty is such BS. Before Lebron even came here, we were consistently near the top in attendance, with mediocre teams. Sure, its fun knowing you have a 95% chance of winning every game, but there is no excitement or expectation from the fan base after a while...we became numb to winning and treated Heat games as a quick pick me up rather than an interesting sports matchup. I am guilty of this..I actually feel some sort of relief knowing Lebron is taking his media circus elsewhere. The CITY OF MIAMI has taken so much crap from the rest of the sports world in the past 4 years only because Lebron chose to play here. It bumped up ticket prices and all the rich snobs were attending games and the real fans could probably only afford one or two games a year. I fully expect the real fans to be able to afford some tickets and actually watch some entertaining basketball games. I felt so tired having to explain myself to people when I said I was a Heat fan...as if living here my whole life wasn't a good reason.
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People like to mimic what they hear on television, and ironically jump on their own bandwagon that "Miami fans suck" and how our fanbase will be non existent post-LeBron. The Heat's attendance were never bottom 5 like the 'Fins have been at times. Here's to hoping Riley builds up another successful contender, and good luck to LeBron, but **** Cleveland. :up:
 
AFCMiamiEast said:
People like to mimic what they hear on television, and ironically jump on their own bandwagon that "Miami fans suck" and how our fanbase will be non existent post-LeBron. The Heat's attendance were never bottom 5 like the 'Fins have been at times. Here's to hoping Riley builds up another successful contender, and good luck to LeBron, but **** Cleveland. :up:
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That's designed by the media. The Triple A became a fashion show and cameras were focused on the lower deck. The hardcore fan was up top and they were there before Lebron and will be there after him.

I agree with the sentiment that "the Heat" became a formality. The regular season became non existant and all that mattered was the Finals. It became "less fun" over time for the hardcore fan and although I will certainly miss James in a Heat uniform, it is kind of refreshing that this whole ordeal is over with and we can move on.
 
AFCMiamiEast said:
People like to mimic what they hear on television, and ironically jump on their own bandwagon that "Miami fans suck" and how our fanbase will be non existent post-LeBron. The Heat's attendance were never bottom 5 like the 'Fins have been at times. Here's to hoping Riley builds up another successful contender, and good luck to LeBron, but **** Cleveland. :up:
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I go two ways on this. Maimi is a very split city.

You have the huge bandwagon elements who would jump on the wagon for w.e that hockey team is called if they were winning and trendy. These guys get a lot of PR and there is a lot of them, every sports town has these twats but Miami has an unusually big amount of them.


Then there's the other group nobody ever talks about. The folks who turn up at dolphins training camp in the rain to watch binns go up against will Davis. The guys who turn up in a 3/4's empty stadium to watch the canes. Those guys rock and get no appreciation. When the fins and canes ( marlins and the rest) get back to the bug time I will be really pleased for those guys.

All the same, if you don't start next season well I bet the heat hype doesn't last too long on wqam etc lol
 
All the attention would then sway over to the Miami Dolphins and the up n coming talent and franchise QB that is Ryan Tannehill.
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tanny a "franchise" qb? when did that happen?

i thought this season is where he has to PROVE he is one?

talented? yes. very much so. FRANCHISE? not yet. not at all.
 
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