Lions,Ravens,Bills all winning with former Dolphins Coaches.....
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finfan66
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What do all of those teams have in common? They all have good quarterbacks! We better be using our first round pick next year on a franchise quarterback or there will be no one in the seats next year.
utahphinsfan
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Linehan was great for us, but he got offered a HC gig.
Cam is a great OC, but he wasn't a head coach. Funny enough, A LOT of people in Baltimore want him fired.
Gailey wasn't bad for us, he got a chance to be HC at Georgia Tech.
Mularkey goes through phases, He was good for a bit at Pitt, then they wanted him out. Had a good first year as Buffalo's HC, then sucked. Sucked here with playcalling. Great 2 of his first 3 years in Atlanta. His second year Matty Ice and Tuner were injured this year they aren't anything special.
Cam is a great OC, but he wasn't a head coach. Funny enough, A LOT of people in Baltimore want him fired.
Gailey wasn't bad for us, he got a chance to be HC at Georgia Tech.
Mularkey goes through phases, He was good for a bit at Pitt, then they wanted him out. Had a good first year as Buffalo's HC, then sucked. Sucked here with playcalling. Great 2 of his first 3 years in Atlanta. His second year Matty Ice and Tuner were injured this year they aren't anything special.
Canadianfishfan
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Most coahes have coached for multiple franchises.. so...?
I though Cam Cameron was slighted the minute they gave Capers more money to be the DC than Cameron got as the HC. However I do think we probably would be in better shape under Cameron right now. He took a shotty oline and turned them and Ronnie Brown into the most explosive running offense in the league the first part of 2007. The defense was cripled from week 1.
That being said, I'm not going to deny it, I was happy when Parcells was coming to town although I had no ill will towards Cameron. I regret it all the time now.
That being said, I'm not going to deny it, I was happy when Parcells was coming to town although I had no ill will towards Cameron. I regret it all the time now.
League rules prevent you from demoting a coach from HC to Coordinator on the same team. So Cam had to leave before he could have come back as an OC.
Canadianfishfan
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Who can truly predict how well a coach will do?
Who here predicted that Jim Swartz would have the lions undefeated at 5-0?
Who here predicted that Jim Swartz would have the lions undefeated at 5-0?
A winning team has an excellent motivator as the head coach, and excellent strategists as coordinators, as well as teachers as assistants. We are operating with incomplete and mediocre coaching staffs.
The Fins have not had that since the Shula, Johnson, Pornstache, Saban regimes.
I would bet that if the Buffalo, or Detroit staff had 1 year in Miami, they would turn this team into winners. I truly believe that.
All of the NFL teams have enough talent to go 8-8. The elite teams have the difference makers..play makers.
The bottom line here is our coaches suck, and Ireland is not as good as advertised.
To go 0'fer is on the coaches and Ireland.
The Fins have not had that since the Shula, Johnson, Pornstache, Saban regimes.
I would bet that if the Buffalo, or Detroit staff had 1 year in Miami, they would turn this team into winners. I truly believe that.
All of the NFL teams have enough talent to go 8-8. The elite teams have the difference makers..play makers.
The bottom line here is our coaches suck, and Ireland is not as good as advertised.
To go 0'fer is on the coaches and Ireland.
He spent 10 years as the Titans defensive coordinator under Jeff Fisher, and he worked for a couple of years in PP. He was deserving of a shot at head coach.
He has a wealth of talent on that Detroit team from all the years of losing. He fell into a great situation and is making the most of it. His assistants are good coaches too. Detroit will be giving GB fits for quite a while. This team looks like it is built for a nice run.
Cameron was a bizarre head coach. Some of his press conferences were just unexplainable. The results on the field were in part due to his decision making. The guy is an offensive genius, but a lousy communicator, motivator, and team spokesman as head coach.
I don't disagree that he made mistakes, but we were a lousy team riddled with injuries from the first game watching Bell go down in the secondary. One by one we dropped like flies as the weeks went on. Getting rid of Cameron was more about 1-15 than it was about his potential as a HC. I just don't think its fair to put the blame of 1-15 on him. We weren't a good team in 2007 and the only bright spot was Ronnie Brown and that offensive line . . . which Cam Cameron was directly responsible for.
And speaking of Cam Cameron . . . why did we get rid of Samson Satele again? I could never figure out how Miami ran so well in 2008, and we dump our center for a 6th round pick and have went down hill ever since. Another dumb move by Sparano. You don't trade solid players for ****ty draft picks and Samson was more than solid and made peanuts. Sure he wasn't better than a healthy Smiley at LG, but Samson would be much better than Incognito at LG.
Actually Jim Schwartz is probably one of the best X's and O's coaches in the game (and we almost hired him instead of Sparano). His schemes in Tennessee weren't fancy, but they got results because he had each player do what they did best instead of trying to force them to learn something different. HE also does a lot of stunting on the DL. Many people believed he was the man to turn the Lions around.
As for Cam and what KDawg said, in hindsight it was poor all around. He really wasn't allowed to put his own staff together, and I think Wayne and Mueller just wanted him to be a glorified OC instead of the HC. That year also killed Dom Capers because they didn't want him to run his defense (the Blitz heavy 3-4 you saw in Pittsburgh and now see in Green Bay). Instead, they wanted him to run Saban's defense the year before. All well and good, but Capers really didn't know the defense that well, and all of Saban's assistants who knew it weren't here to help.
Cam's S&C program sucked though.
We got rid of Sammy because he didn't fit with power running and got over powered by NTs. In Hue Jackson's zone blocking however, he's great.
As for Cam, looking back how he treated the Culpepper situation was terrible, and he ran training camp like a joke. Maybe if he gets another chance he'll learn from his mistakes, but 2 things were clear 1)He was NOT liked by his players and 2)He was not ready to be an NFL HC
PhinsFTW
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I really don't agree with this. I can use my own eyes and tell you that the talent distribution in the NFL isn't roughly equal. Teams like the Raiders, Bills, and Lions while have been downright terrible in recent years. Through free agency and some good drafting these teams have almost completely flipped this around. Now, coaching has helped by bringing in the talent and developing the talent, but look at some of the guys these teams have now that they didn't have 5 years ago. To say that any of the coaching staffs of any of those teams could make this team into a winning team, while not impossible, doesn't seem likely. While I agree playing for a new coach would inspire some to do better or maybe teach some of our guys better techniques, we still would need some better guys out on the field to really make a difference.